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Old 07-07-2019, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by VictorBarron View Post
Can you say Dodge Demon?
Hmm i forgot about that!!

That would wipe the floor with a Z. But the Z still looks a lot better!

Tough choice though. I think if i get to have only ONE car, definitely the demon. But having 2 cars, and i would still pick the Z as the weekend car.
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Old 07-07-2019, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BrunoTheMellow View Post
Lol you're what's wrong with some of the Corvette fans. The 2020 gt500 will rape a Z06 in any highway encounter or half mile event. Hell a 2013/2014 gt500 matches a z06 in speed.

You sure about that?

Raw numbers and application of physics (dynamics of acceleration, inertia neutralization, torque application and potential for energy transfer to the ground based on frictional contact) do not support your claim.

Real world measurements also cast significant doubt on the credibility of such a statement.

https://www.zeroto60times.com/browse-by-make/

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Old 07-07-2019, 11:17 PM
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Dont do it. The z06 will get you looks, has the torque and kids everywhere will wave at you. The Shelby looks just like another v4 mustang to the average civilian.
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Old 07-07-2019, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RobGZ06 View Post
Hmm i forgot about that!!

That would wipe the floor with a Z. But the Z still looks a lot better!

Tough choice though. I think if i get to have only ONE car, definitely the demon. But having 2 cars, and i would still pick the Z as the weekend car.
I saw a Demon for the first time up close on Saturday, with the sticker proudly displayed under the open hood. With a few options and delivery it was at $91.4K. Yikes!
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Old 07-08-2019, 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by desibaba View Post
Dont do it. The z06 will get you looks, has the torque and kids everywhere will wave at you. The Shelby looks just like another v4 mustang to the average civilian.
This is very true. I teach and all the high school kids love the my Z. There is never a day I donít find kids taking pictures with the car. A few students have mustangs Shelby, Roush and Saleen of various years. However, none attract attention like the lonely Z in the teachers parking lot.
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Old 07-08-2019, 08:17 AM
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[QUOTE=BrunoTheMellow;1599708677Hell a 2013/2014 gt500 matches a z06 in speed.[/QUOTE]

Nope. Here's a C6 Z making about 570 SAE RWHP running against a GT500 KR making 725 SAE RWHP. Bye, Bye mustang.

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Old 07-08-2019, 08:31 AM
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You have to remember this is a Corvette forum. Personally, I love the looks of the 2020 Mustang GT500. I also like the Charger Hellcat Demon. Honestly, I think about getting something else all the time. I consider myself a car guy, not a Corvette guy. I love my Z06, but I could see owning a Ford or a Mopar. We live in an amazing time when it comes to performance cars. I grew up 60's and thought the Muscle Car era was amazing. It doesn't compare to today's cars. I've found that asking someone else's opinion is just going to muddy the waters. Do what you want to do and don't worry about what other people think.
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Old 07-08-2019, 12:44 PM
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DCT will be the saving grace of this car. Yea its heavy AF, buy the gt500 was never meant to be a hardcore road course car. That's what the gt350R is for.
I'm going to laugh my *** off if the gt500 can keep up with a zr1.
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Old 07-08-2019, 01:57 PM
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You wont be.

How muxh torque is it making? To move 4000lbs.... it better be more than the 625ftlbs they stated already....

it probably will be as quick as a hell cat. Which is slower than the Z06..

And by Ford's own post? Mid 3 second 0 to 60 isnt equating to sub 11 second quarter unless it's 10.999999.


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Old 07-08-2019, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by serpent View Post
DCT will be the saving grace of this car. Yea its heavy AF, buy the gt500 was never meant to be a hardcore road course car. That's what the gt350R is for.
I'm going to laugh my *** off if the gt500 can keep up with a zr1.
Idk about the zr1 but it will wipe the floor with a z06. Way more power, more efficient and of course a faster shifting trans.

The Corvette isnt the end all be all of cars lol. People need a dose of reality.

We're entering 2020, tons of cars that will be even with a Corvette.
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Old 07-08-2019, 03:50 PM
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I know like that 16c7z guy, thinks it will be even with a hellcat. Lol.

Yea I'm sure ford built the gt500 to be even with a car that came out what, 4 years ago?
More power, better aero, lighter weight, better transmission = even with hellcat? Yea okay
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Old 07-08-2019, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Range_Rat View Post
You sure about that?

Raw numbers and application of physics (dynamics of acceleration, inertia neutralization, torque application and potential for energy transfer to the ground based on frictional contact) do not support your claim.

Real world measurements also cast significant doubt on the credibility of such a statement.

https://www.zeroto60times.com/browse-by-make/
Did you just open up a Dynamics textbook and copy random words?

Okay buddy. I have a mechanical engineering degree too.

No one gives a **** about 0-60 nowadays. Specially since you replied to my comment specifically against 0-60. Btw. The c7 z06 is a ******* heavy parachute for a 2 door sports car. That's why the c6z runs the same 1/2 mile speeds. With 150 less hp.

Get your head out of the dirt. The z06 isn't a god.
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Old 07-08-2019, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Ggpz06 View Post
Has anyone thought about this? Not the new 2020 Gt500 but the Shelby Super Snake which is a 70k option to a GT premium which is 51k total around 120k.
Its a mustang. I probably rather have the stang then the camaro zl1. But not over a corvette. Even it itís a little bit faster In a straight line. Itís all one upsmanship on the hp wars. At some point itís just splitting c-hairs.

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Old 07-08-2019, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Gizmo View Post
Its a mustang. I probably rather have the stang then the camaro zl1. But not over a corvette. Even it itís a little bit faster In a straight line. Itís all one upsmanship on the hp wars. At some point itís just splitting c-hairs.
New camaro is atrocious. GM screwed the pooch on that car, the new silverado and leaked pics of the c8 rear.
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Old 07-08-2019, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by serpent View Post
I know like that 16c7z guy, thinks it will be even with a hellcat. Lol.

Yea I'm sure ford built the gt500 to be even with a car that came out what, 4 years ago?
More power, better aero, lighter weight, better transmission = even with hellcat? Yea okay
He doesn't know much about cars. He just pretends he does because his "buddy" owns a shop, and because he likes to hang out with guys who have better, more expensive cars haha.

I can't wait for this GT500 to hit the streets, so we can see the numbers. It will certainly be faster than a hellcat, and IMHO, faster than a z06. Not as fast (or maybe) as a ZR1. But definitely on par or faster with a z06.

Since the hellcat is about equal with the z06, it just means ford made sure the GT500 is faster than the hellcat, which in turns might be faster than the z06. We shall see!

I know i'll be around to , when that time comes..

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Old 07-08-2019, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BrunoTheMellow View Post

The c7 z06 is a ******* heavy parachute for a 2 door sports car. That's why the c6z runs the same 1/2 mile speeds. With 150 less hp.

Get your head out of the dirt. The z06 isn't a god.
your right ó f-ing heavy parachute - I might add that itís more like a 2 door Cadillac then a sports car. A bit disappointed how it performs especially on the big end but starting to appreciate a little more then my c6z.
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Old 07-08-2019, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dvilin View Post
Never gave it a thought, to me no matter what Ford puts under the hood it would be a downgrade from my 2019 Z06.
Agree, they are taking a $26000 car a adding a lot but the bones are a $26000 car.
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Old 07-09-2019, 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by serpent View Post
I know like that 16c7z guy, thinks it will be even with a hellcat. Lol.

Yea I'm sure ford built the gt500 to be even with a car that came out what, 4 years ago?
More power, better aero, lighter weight, better transmission = even with hellcat? Yea okay
The best transmission on earth is the ZF8 speed. Not this unproven DCT that can't handle a blowers torque. They will be gremading left and right if unleashed and if not? That explains a mid 3 sec 0 to 60 time.

Power to weight ratio all else being similar not equal will tell the story.

And if a Z06 and hellcat are equal as you say? Then if this mustang is .3 and 3mph faster? I guess the Z06 would also be "equal".

How does your Z06 do vs a hellcat? Or is it your hellcat running against Z06s? Or wait you have neither right? Only see you bash this car and others on this forum. No idea why someone would be here to just troll around. But I guess the Viper forum is dried up since they're extinct?
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Old 07-09-2019, 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BrunoTheMellow View Post
No one gives a **** about 0-60 nowadays. Specially since you replied to my comment specifically against 0-60. Btw. The c7 z06 is a ******* heavy parachute for a 2 door sports car. That's why the c6z runs the same 1/2 mile speeds. With 150 less hp..

Where did you see that they ran or run the same mph stock v stock? They consistently run slower. Do the research even here on the forum plenty of owners have.

Cam and bolt on C6Zs are running mid to high 150s. Stock they're mid 140s. Numerous C6Z owners have posted that here.

The C7Z even an M7 with stage III aero go mid 150s. Heck Deb ran her red C7Z06 M7 bones stock and went 157...

Numerous C7Z owners in the mid to high 150s stock.

As for heat soak on flat out runs? My buddy's 2300 Maggie car went back to back at rentals he ran low 10s without a drop at all and eve. Went faster on of the 5 runs in a row. Maybe it didn't sit and heat soak? But any car after hard run will heat soak. Even NA. The car can withstand multiple runs back to back.

On the street with a passenger I've done it to 130 2x or video and 0 to 60 was slow due to traction but the second run right after the first it went slower to 60 and quicker to 100..

Too much internet nonsense.. real world is a different place. At least around here. Maybe in other parts of the country and octane availability it's different?
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Old 07-09-2019, 08:18 AM
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I don't ever remember buying a car for its 0-60 time or its top end. I'd wager a guess (and I could be wrong) that very few of us actually use our cars to their maximum performance capabilities. My first priority when buying a car has always been looks and then performance. I don't care how much horsepower a car makes. If it's ugly, I'm not going to buy it. I can't change the aesthetics of a car, but I can change or modify the performance. Again, maybe that's just the way I look at it. There are so many amazing performance/sports cars (both foreign and domestic) out there today. I'm not sure why we get our feelings or egos hurt when another auto maker comes out with something that might be a little better or faster than what we own. Enjoy what you drive and accept the fact your car may not be the best that was ever created.
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