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Old 11-23-2015, 12:16 PM
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Just realized I posted above 5 years ago lol
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Old 11-23-2015, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by robz View Post
6 years later and I'm still confused on what people think.

In my narrow minded opinion I still believe the fastest car is the one with the lowest ET for record purposes on lists.

Saying a car is faster because it traps higher in the 1/4 mile irrespective of ET bothers me.
Words mean things and when words that mean different things are commonly used as synonyms, confusion is the result. This issue will probably never go away for that reason...

I believe FAST refers to speed, which is measured as a rate - typically in mph.

I believe QUICK refers to ET, which is measured as a time - typically in seconds.

Think of a Bonneville racer with a 350 hp LS1. It is set up with tall gears to achieve max top speed (higher mph). This car will be FAST.

Compare this to a drag racer with the same 350 hp LS1. It is set up with short gears to achieve max acceleration (lower ET). This car will be QUICK.

Now, in this day of 6, 7, 8 (and more) speed transmissions, you can set up a car to be BOTH quick and fast. But the point remains, FAST is about speed (mph) and QUICK is about time (seconds).

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Old 11-23-2015, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 4XLR8N View Post
Words mean things and when words that mean different things are commonly used as synonyms, confusion is the result. This issue will probably never go away for that reason...

I believe FAST refers to speed, which is measured as a rate - typically in mph.

I believe QUICK refers to ET, which is measured as a time - typically in seconds.

Think of a Bonneville racer with a 350 hp LS1. It is set up with tall gears to achieve max top speed (higher mph). This car will be FAST.

Compare this to a drag racer with the same 350 hp LS1. It is set up with short gears to achieve max acceleration (lower ET). This car will be QUICK.

Now, in this day of 6, 7, 8 (and more) speed transmissions, you can set up a car to be BOTH quick and fast. But the point remains, FAST is about speed (mph) and QUICK is about time (seconds).

The word "fast" can also relate to time. The two words are often times interchangeable, but personally, when I think of the word "quick" I think of something happening is split seconds, ie quick reflexes. In drag racing we usually use "quick" to describe how a car or driver reacts. For example if a race is on a .400 pro tree, a quick reacting car and driver is required to cut a good light. And since to my knowledge MPH never independently decides who wins or loses a drag race, there's never been a need to say "the quicker car won, or the faster car won."

Not to mention, it's just not how people talk when it comes to drag racing. How would this sound: "My buddy just broke into the 9s, but now he's going for 8s because he's obsessed with going quick."
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Old 11-23-2015, 02:59 PM
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Clear as a muddy stream.

I have a timeslip that says 11.50 @ 25mph somewhere. Does that mean my car is slow. I'd say that means my car is fast.

If in drag racing the fastest car is the one with the highest mph than maybe I just don't like drag racing that much as a spectator, competitor, or et chaser. lol.
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Old 11-23-2015, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by robz View Post
Clear as a muddy stream.
It's relative.
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Old 11-24-2015, 10:57 AM
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Quicker = better ET

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Old 11-28-2015, 12:20 AM
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It's not as "common sense" as guys who spent time at the track think it is. On the other hand, guys who are tuned into drag racing scene...it almost seems crazy for some one to think mph is king.

ET is king...mph is an indicator of possible potential. When mph exceeds the correlating ET. It means the driver left some on the track (he didn't put the mph down on the track earlier in the run).

At a big race this year I saw a 4.82 @ 95mph (1/8th)....wow. Not that is impressive...and almost unbelievable...lol.


I have a very long but very detailed post of the break down of a 1/4 pass. And how mph and ET correlate....if anyone is interested I will post it...
It also shows examples of how mph can be off from the ET.

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Old 11-30-2015, 01:10 PM
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Over 10 years ago LG ran a mid 10 and trapped 140mph with a 346 in a c5.
Some would consider that the fastest h/c 346.
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Old 12-01-2015, 07:01 PM
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There is no clear answer and there never will be, some people see it one way and some people see it the other way.

A drag race is to get to the finish line first, so better ET wins, That's a fact.... If you want to call that car faster or quicker, well that's up to you lol.
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Old 12-02-2015, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by robz View Post
Some thoughts concerning drag racing since I'm bored and taking a break from work.

MPH

--It is fun to track and it often shows the potential of the car on the strip.
--It can also give an indication of the power the car is making.
--Contrary to what some believe, it is driver dependent and can vary significantly from one driver to the next.
--It is also affected by weight,wind, power under the curve, gearing, traction, accelration of motor, over setup of car, and many other specific factors.
--Different tracks timing equipment can affect mph.
--There are times when you spin and see a false high mph.
--There are times when your best et is your best mph.
--Converters and locking them up or not affects mph.
--Where you shift,how you shift,and when you shift affects mph.

***MPH/RWHP/Weight calculators are not real world due to their inability to factor in all of the details above.

Saying a car is faster or ran faster because it has achieved a higher mph is incorrect IMO.

I think et should be factored in to which car is faster.
I'm tired of the quickest/fastest semantics bs.

We set our cars up to run best et. MPH is good for shop bragging rights.
I like throwing up a big mph like anyone else but I'm not going to claim the fastest just because of the mph. That's my opinion.

Which car is the fastest or ran the fastest?

1) [email protected] 135.50
2) [email protected] 135.40

I say #2 is the fastest.
IMHO, #2 is quicker AND faster.

Think of it this way:

Car number 1 hit 135.50 in 11.03 seconds. What speed would car number 2 be at in 11.03 seconds? 137? 139? Just because Car 1 has a higher top speed at the end of a measured distance doesn't make it a faster car. Its average speed was still slower.
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Old 12-02-2015, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by John_B View Post
There is no clear answer and there never will be, some people see it one way and some people see it the other way.

A drag race is to get to the finish line first, so better ET wins, That's a fact.... If you want to call that car faster or quicker, well that's up to you lol.
Unless he gets treed.
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Old 12-04-2015, 07:05 AM
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Quickest =time= ET
Fastest =speed= MPH
The NHRA and Everyone else has separate records.
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Old 01-07-2016, 12:18 PM
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ET.... Go Home. LOL

ET all Day. Win is the green light
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Number 2 is the quickest, number 1 is the fastest !
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Old 09-15-2016, 11:35 PM
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Fast food is something we are all familiar with. What defines a win at the drive through is the lowest ET.
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Old 09-16-2016, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by YNOT85 View Post
Fast food is something we are all familiar with. What defines a win at the drive through is the lowest ET without getting heartburn.
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