Which car is the fastest?
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Round 3. Lets keep it as simple as possible.(Not responsible for any headaches.)
Who gets the title of fastest car?
Rank the order for your "Fast" list.
car#1--10.19@135.00
car#2--10.21@136.00
car#3--10.60@150.00
car#4--10.40@135.20
car#5--11.05@136.50
Remember nowhere does it say quickest.
*If the majority says car #3 takes the title of fastest car then I'm looking into a turbo.lol
*I would hate to think that car#1 gets 5th place.
Who gets the title of fastest car?
Rank the order for your "Fast" list.
car#1--10.19@135.00
car#2--10.21@136.00
car#3--10.60@150.00
car#4--10.40@135.20
car#5--11.05@136.50
Remember nowhere does it say quickest.
*If the majority says car #3 takes the title of fastest car then I'm looking into a turbo.lol
*I would hate to think that car#1 gets 5th place.
#22
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Many people will argue with that.
#23
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It truly is but.....
My subjective opinion on the order:
car#1--10.19@135.00
car#2--10.21@136.00
car#3--10.40@135.20
car#4--10.60@150.00
car#5--11.05@136.50
It's ET above all else for me.
car#1--10.19@135.00
car#2--10.21@136.00
car#3--10.40@135.20
car#4--10.60@150.00
car#5--11.05@136.50
It's ET above all else for me.
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Dang it Rob, you got me thinking....
Your examples were very close in ET and mph, but what if they weren't?
1. 9.94 @ 138
2. 9.95 @ 150
Would you still say #1 is the fastest C5? Certainly #1 is the better driver and would win the drag race, but which car is faster in the broad sense of things??
Your examples were very close in ET and mph, but what if they weren't?
1. 9.94 @ 138
2. 9.95 @ 150
Would you still say #1 is the fastest C5? Certainly #1 is the better driver and would win the drag race, but which car is faster in the broad sense of things??
The only way to determine the faster of the two cars is to run them flat out (top end pull) thus basically eliminating the drivers input and making it a mechanical (HP to weight ratio) contest.
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Round 3. Lets keep it as simple as possible.(Not responsible for any headaches.)
Who gets the title of fastest car?
Rank the order for your "Fast" list.
car#1--10.19@135.00
car#2--10.21@136.00
car#3--10.60@150.00
car#4--10.40@135.20
car#5--11.05@136.50
Remember nowhere does it say quickest.
*If the majority says car #3 takes the title of fastest car then I'm looking into a turbo.lol
*I would hate to think that car#1 gets 5th place.
Who gets the title of fastest car?
Rank the order for your "Fast" list.
car#1--10.19@135.00
car#2--10.21@136.00
car#3--10.60@150.00
car#4--10.40@135.20
car#5--11.05@136.50
Remember nowhere does it say quickest.
*If the majority says car #3 takes the title of fastest car then I'm looking into a turbo.lol
*I would hate to think that car#1 gets 5th place.
car#2--10.21@136.00
car#4--10.40@135.20
car#3--10.60@150.00
car#5--11.05@136.50
I can argue and say that i feel car #3 has the most potential to run the quickest ET but has not therefore he is not the fastest.
It doesn't matter how you word it for me, the fastest car is the car who ran the best ET. I think it is much more impressive when i see a car run a real fast time at a lower mph then it is a high mph car running the same time.
When we are talking a 15mph difference between 2 cars that run the same time i think the car with the higher mph is capable of running the faster time but he has not therefore he is still slower.
MPH doesn't mean anything in drag racing...MPH is just a WOW factor. You know when i see one of those outlaw drag radial cars running 200+ i say "WOW THAT WAS FAST!" but maybe not as fast as the car running 196. I know i think it's silly what we are trying to say here.
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ET rules Rob, you already know that... Its how fast you get there that counts, not how fast you were going when you got there!!!!
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car#1--10.19@135.00
car#2--10.21@136.00
car#4--10.40@135.20
car#3--10.60@150.00
car#5--11.05@136.50
I can argue and say that i feel car #3 has the most potential to run the quickest ET but has not therefore he is not the fastest.
It doesn't matter how you word it for me, the fastest car is the car who ran the best ET. I think it is much more impressive when i see a car run a real fast time at a lower mph then it is a high mph car running the same time.
When we are talking a 15mph difference between 2 cars that run the same time i think the car with the higher mph is capable of running the faster time but he has not therefore he is still slower.
MPH doesn't mean anything in drag racing...MPH is just a WOW factor. You know when i see one of those outlaw drag radial cars running 200+ i say "WOW THAT WAS FAST!" but maybe not as fast as the car running 196. I know i think it's silly what we are trying to say here.
car#2--10.21@136.00
car#4--10.40@135.20
car#3--10.60@150.00
car#5--11.05@136.50
I can argue and say that i feel car #3 has the most potential to run the quickest ET but has not therefore he is not the fastest.
It doesn't matter how you word it for me, the fastest car is the car who ran the best ET. I think it is much more impressive when i see a car run a real fast time at a lower mph then it is a high mph car running the same time.
When we are talking a 15mph difference between 2 cars that run the same time i think the car with the higher mph is capable of running the faster time but he has not therefore he is still slower.
MPH doesn't mean anything in drag racing...MPH is just a WOW factor. You know when i see one of those outlaw drag radial cars running 200+ i say "WOW THAT WAS FAST!" but maybe not as fast as the car running 196. I know i think it's silly what we are trying to say here.
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Ok, round 2.
Let's take a c6z cam only record (hypothetical).
One guy runs 10.15@134.
Another car runs 10.55@136.
Some people like Jay mentioned above would consider the 2nd car to hold the record for fastest cam only c6Z06.
I wouldn't.
Who holds the title of fastest c6Z06 cam only??
It's interesting to hear what people think and how some people who have been around the sport for a long time differ in opinion on this simple issue.
Let's take a c6z cam only record (hypothetical).
One guy runs 10.15@134.
Another car runs 10.55@136.
Some people like Jay mentioned above would consider the 2nd car to hold the record for fastest cam only c6Z06.
I wouldn't.
Who holds the title of fastest c6Z06 cam only??
It's interesting to hear what people think and how some people who have been around the sport for a long time differ in opinion on this simple issue.
Kidding aside, isnt the guy who wins the race faster?
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Ok, round 2.
Let's take a c6z cam only record (hypothetical).
One guy runs 10.15@134.
Another car runs 10.55@136.
Some people like Jay mentioned above would consider the 2nd car to hold the record for fastest cam only c6Z06.
I wouldn't.
Who holds the title of fastest c6Z06 cam only??
It's interesting to hear what people think and how some people who have been around the sport for a long time differ in opinion on this simple issue.
Let's take a c6z cam only record (hypothetical).
One guy runs 10.15@134.
Another car runs 10.55@136.
Some people like Jay mentioned above would consider the 2nd car to hold the record for fastest cam only c6Z06.
I wouldn't.
Who holds the title of fastest c6Z06 cam only??
It's interesting to hear what people think and how some people who have been around the sport for a long time differ in opinion on this simple issue.
Car 1: 10.00 @ 135
Car 2: 11.57 @ 145
I would take car 2 all day, any day. Faster on the dragstrip only holds bragging rights at the dragstrip...the street is another story, because if the race happens from a rolling start, car #2 will destroy #1...given equal drivers and similar traction...
Comming from the turbocharged import side of the house, I can tell you that a little honda running 12 second ET.'s and trapping 120+mph will destroy most domestics running a full second quicker on the streets...the limiting factor being; most import drivers can't drive to save their lives, and traction is always an issue unless your AWD (compared to domestics anyways).
Case and point...I had a nissan 240sx with a japanese turbo engine (modded) that made 330rwhp...I got into a street race with a guy with an ls1 camaro with N2o that ran 11's...the best I ever ran with my nissan was a 12.7 @ 117mph...this guy and I ran from a 50mph roll...I could creep away from him at the top of my third gear (he was auto).....
so.... his car was QUICKER at the dragstrip....my car was FASTER on the street
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trust me...I know
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But the one flaw in adding R/T into the equation is that the guy who can't cut a good light and doesn't get to the line first might still have the faster car. An 11.0 second/125mph car can beat a 10.5 second/130mph all day long if the 11 second car's driver cuts a much better light.
That is real racing of course but for this particular discussion it doesn't truly prove which car is quicker/faster.
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Truth is, just because a particular car is fast on the drag strip doesn't mean that it can't also be fast on the street as well, even from a high speed roll.
Not sure if you know this but not all of the cars on these fast lists are automatics with 4.56+ gears out back, there are quite a few manual cars with drivers that know exactly how to use them too. Some of these cars are absolutely brutally fast from a highway roll, and yes even some of the fast automatic ones can perform quite well on a highway.
Either way this particular discussion focuses on drag strip numbers so street racing isn't entirely relevant here.
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Those mph are too close to argue your point...if the car that ran 10.55 actually hooked, it would slow down to 134-135 anyways.... so let me ask you this, which of these two cars would you want?
Car 1: 10.00 @ 135
Car 2: 11.57 @ 145
I would take car 2 all day, any day. Faster on the dragstrip only holds bragging rights at the dragstrip...the street is another story, because if the race happens from a rolling start, car #2 will destroy #1...given equal drivers and similar traction...
Comming from the turbocharged import side of the house, I can tell you that a little honda running 12 second ET.'s and trapping 120+mph will destroy most domestics running a full second quicker on the streets...the limiting factor being; most import drivers can't drive to save their lives, and traction is always an issue unless your AWD (compared to domestics anyways).
Case and point...I had a nissan 240sx with a japanese turbo engine (modded) that made 330rwhp...I got into a street race with a guy with an ls1 camaro with N2o that ran 11's...the best I ever ran with my nissan was a 12.7 @ 117mph...this guy and I ran from a 50mph roll...I could creep away from him at the top of my third gear (he was auto).....
so.... his car was QUICKER at the dragstrip....my car was FASTER on the street
Car 1: 10.00 @ 135
Car 2: 11.57 @ 145
I would take car 2 all day, any day. Faster on the dragstrip only holds bragging rights at the dragstrip...the street is another story, because if the race happens from a rolling start, car #2 will destroy #1...given equal drivers and similar traction...
Comming from the turbocharged import side of the house, I can tell you that a little honda running 12 second ET.'s and trapping 120+mph will destroy most domestics running a full second quicker on the streets...the limiting factor being; most import drivers can't drive to save their lives, and traction is always an issue unless your AWD (compared to domestics anyways).
Case and point...I had a nissan 240sx with a japanese turbo engine (modded) that made 330rwhp...I got into a street race with a guy with an ls1 camaro with N2o that ran 11's...the best I ever ran with my nissan was a 12.7 @ 117mph...this guy and I ran from a 50mph roll...I could creep away from him at the top of my third gear (he was auto).....
so.... his car was QUICKER at the dragstrip....my car was FASTER on the street
Real racing is at the track - with a light and R/T counts...
Of course my R/Ts suck, but I'm practicing.
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If my R/T and E/T were added together I'd be running solid 12.xx's... I better learn how to cut a light before the spring...
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Dang it Rob, you got me thinking....
Your examples were very close in ET and mph, but what if they weren't?
1. 9.94 @ 138
2. 9.95 @ 150
Would you still say #1 is the fastest C5? Certainly #1 is the better driver and would win the drag race, but which car is faster in the broad sense of things??
Your examples were very close in ET and mph, but what if they weren't?
1. 9.94 @ 138
2. 9.95 @ 150
Would you still say #1 is the fastest C5? Certainly #1 is the better driver and would win the drag race, but which car is faster in the broad sense of things??
Bottom line - lower ET = Faster car...
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