My car is glacially slow
08-05-2018, 11:01 AM
#1
Racer
Thread Starter
My car is glacially slow
My car seems to take geologic time to get to 60 mph.
Plus, there's a shitload of ping.
Car is a '97, 70k miles. Runs really well, gets supremely good mileage.
Using Torque on my cell phone to get 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. On vacation in Montana on a highway entrance ramp, I was 7.52 seconds 0-60! 1/4 mile time was 15.52.
Yesterday I couldn't do a 1/4 mile as traffic was truly epic. 0-60 was 6.7 seconds. I live at 5,400 feet, and this eats up lots of power. Torque reports I made 209 hp, then 189, but no third gear runs at all due to endless traffic and generalized "public streets" malaise (no spinning of tires, etc.).
What should I be checking?
Plus, there's a shitload of ping.
Car is a '97, 70k miles. Runs really well, gets supremely good mileage.
Using Torque on my cell phone to get 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. On vacation in Montana on a highway entrance ramp, I was 7.52 seconds 0-60! 1/4 mile time was 15.52.
Yesterday I couldn't do a 1/4 mile as traffic was truly epic. 0-60 was 6.7 seconds. I live at 5,400 feet, and this eats up lots of power. Torque reports I made 209 hp, then 189, but no third gear runs at all due to endless traffic and generalized "public streets" malaise (no spinning of tires, etc.).
What should I be checking?
08-05-2018, 11:35 AM
#2
Race Director
My car seems to take geologic time to get to 60 mph.
Plus, there's a shitload of ping.
Car is a '97, 70k miles. Runs really well, gets supremely good mileage.
Using Torque on my cell phone to get 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. On vacation in Montana on a highway entrance ramp, I was 7.52 seconds 0-60! 1/4 mile time was 15.52.
Yesterday I couldn't do a 1/4 mile as traffic was truly epic. 0-60 was 6.7 seconds. I live at 5,400 feet, and this eats up lots of power. Torque reports I made 209 hp, then 189, but no third gear runs at all due to endless traffic and generalized "public streets" malaise (no spinning of tires, etc.).
What should I be checking?
Plus, there's a shitload of ping.
Car is a '97, 70k miles. Runs really well, gets supremely good mileage.
Using Torque on my cell phone to get 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. On vacation in Montana on a highway entrance ramp, I was 7.52 seconds 0-60! 1/4 mile time was 15.52.
Yesterday I couldn't do a 1/4 mile as traffic was truly epic. 0-60 was 6.7 seconds. I live at 5,400 feet, and this eats up lots of power. Torque reports I made 209 hp, then 189, but no third gear runs at all due to endless traffic and generalized "public streets" malaise (no spinning of tires, etc.).
What should I be checking?
Last edited by Ret.NavyGTO; 08-05-2018 at 11:39 AM.
08-05-2018, 12:11 PM
#3
Le Mans Master
My car seems to take geologic time to get to 60 mph.
Plus, there's a shitload of ping.
Car is a '97, 70k miles. Runs really well, gets supremely good mileage.
Using Torque on my cell phone to get 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. On vacation in Montana on a highway entrance ramp, I was 7.52 seconds 0-60! 1/4 mile time was 15.52.
Yesterday I couldn't do a 1/4 mile as traffic was truly epic. 0-60 was 6.7 seconds. I live at 5,400 feet, and this eats up lots of power. Torque reports I made 209 hp, then 189, but no third gear runs at all due to endless traffic and generalized "public streets" malaise (no spinning of tires, etc.).
What should I be checking?
Plus, there's a shitload of ping.
Car is a '97, 70k miles. Runs really well, gets supremely good mileage.
Using Torque on my cell phone to get 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. On vacation in Montana on a highway entrance ramp, I was 7.52 seconds 0-60! 1/4 mile time was 15.52.
Yesterday I couldn't do a 1/4 mile as traffic was truly epic. 0-60 was 6.7 seconds. I live at 5,400 feet, and this eats up lots of power. Torque reports I made 209 hp, then 189, but no third gear runs at all due to endless traffic and generalized "public streets" malaise (no spinning of tires, etc.).
What should I be checking?
I would find a tuner to check your timing and AFR if you hear ping.
08-05-2018, 12:34 PM
#4
Racer
Thread Starter
Yes, 91 octane gas. The retailers around here state, "Oh, you don't need high-octane gas at 5400 feet, duh" which is to mean, "We don't want to pay to bring you the 93 octane gas we give the rest of the country, but we'll sure charge you the same as 93 octane gas everywhere else in the country."
Another scam.
Last edited by FOGeologist; 08-05-2018 at 06:33 PM.
08-05-2018, 12:37 PM
#5
Racer
Thread Starter
92 degrees F. 91 octane. The day I did the Montana onramp run it was definitely uphill, I had about 120 lbs of camping gear in the car, and I had a mix of 87 octane, 91 octane and a can of 104 octane boost in the tank. It was still pinging.
I heard something about the Torque Tube making noise that can sound like ping; is this true?
I heard something about the Torque Tube making noise that can sound like ping; is this true?
08-05-2018, 01:11 PM
#6
Race Director
92 degrees F. 91 octane. The day I did the Montana onramp run it was definitely uphill, I had about 120 lbs of camping gear in the car, and I had a mix of 87 octane, 91 octane and a can of 104 octane boost in the tank. It was still pinging.
I heard something about the Torque Tube making noise that can sound like ping; is this true?
I heard something about the Torque Tube making noise that can sound like ping; is this true?
You should get an HP Tuners tool.
08-05-2018, 01:14 PM
#7
Le Mans Master
92 degrees F. 91 octane. The day I did the Montana onramp run it was definitely uphill, I had about 120 lbs of camping gear in the car, and I had a mix of 87 octane, 91 octane and a can of 104 octane boost in the tank. It was still pinging.
I heard something about the Torque Tube making noise that can sound like ping; is this true?
I heard something about the Torque Tube making noise that can sound like ping; is this true?
Ping sound like a rattle can. You are probably too young to know, but from around 1974 all the cars sounded terrible with ping when you hit the throttle.
08-05-2018, 01:16 PM
#8
Le Mans Master
I have no Idea about the torque tube however I can tell you that 104 is crap IMO. With a mix of 87 with 91 I'll bet you were below 90 even with the booster. Probably pulled a huge amount of timing in that heat. In the past I would do the old school red neck race gas in my turbo Buicks and Typhoon, 4 gallons of 93 mixed (in a 5 gal can, not in the tank) with a gallon of Xylene made 5 gallons of 100. I never popped a head gasket or fouled plugs doing it nor did it "eat up my fuel lines" as some said.
You should get an HP Tuners tool.
You should get an HP Tuners tool.
08-05-2018, 01:21 PM
#9
Race Director
08-05-2018, 01:54 PM
#10
Racer
Thread Starter
I just thought of something.
Right before the vacation drive, I had a shop adjust the emergency brake.
It doesn't seem to drag, and mileage was heroically good on the trip (28.9). The car does not slow down noticeably when you take your foot off the gas or coast in neutral.
Buuuuuuuut, could it still somehow be dragging? I guess I could jack it up and spin the rears in neutral to see if there are any challenges.
The brake does work better (i.e. well enough not to allow the car to slip down hill when applied).
Right before the vacation drive, I had a shop adjust the emergency brake.
It doesn't seem to drag, and mileage was heroically good on the trip (28.9). The car does not slow down noticeably when you take your foot off the gas or coast in neutral.
Buuuuuuuut, could it still somehow be dragging? I guess I could jack it up and spin the rears in neutral to see if there are any challenges.
The brake does work better (i.e. well enough not to allow the car to slip down hill when applied).
08-05-2018, 09:02 PM
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get a datalog of the car and see if it is in fact detonating and pulling timing... if it is real knock and you keep running it hard without fixing the issue you are asking for trouble in my opinion
08-16-2018, 02:02 PM
#12
Safety Car
5400’ elevation kills power.
I bet if you drove it down to sea level, put real fuel in it with a nice 70 degree ambient it would be a whole new car.
Also, inlet air temp on these cars goes out of sight in hot weather and slow driving. That alone will pull timing and kill power. Not to mention the possible timing retard caused by knock.
Ron
I bet if you drove it down to sea level, put real fuel in it with a nice 70 degree ambient it would be a whole new car.
Also, inlet air temp on these cars goes out of sight in hot weather and slow driving. That alone will pull timing and kill power. Not to mention the possible timing retard caused by knock.
Ron
08-16-2018, 07:33 PM
#13
Racer
Thread Starter
5400’ elevation kills power.
I bet if you drove it down to sea level, put real fuel in it with a nice 70 degree ambient it would be a whole new car.
Also, inlet air temp on these cars goes out of sight in hot weather and slow driving. That alone will pull timing and kill power. Not to mention the possible timing retard caused by knock.
Ron
I bet if you drove it down to sea level, put real fuel in it with a nice 70 degree ambient it would be a whole new car.
Also, inlet air temp on these cars goes out of sight in hot weather and slow driving. That alone will pull timing and kill power. Not to mention the possible timing retard caused by knock.
Ron
Seems to be all better now that we're back to Iridiums and new wires with the correct resistance.