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With Emanuel, Obama Could Be Sending Signal to Israel

Old 11-05-2008, 08:34 PM
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Barack Obama has reached out to Illinois Rep. Rahm Emanuel, a prominent Jewish congressman, to be his chief of staff.

FOXNews.com

Wednesday, November 05, 2008


Barack Obama, by reportedly tapping a prominent Jewish congressman to be his chief of staff, earned renewed support from the Jewish community here and abroad

His choice, Illinois Rep. Rahm Emanuel, has already accepted the job, one Democratic source told FOX News, though Emanuel would say publicly only that he's still considering his future. Obama's offer could be an early signal to the Middle East that the new president intends to follow through on his promises to uphold the U.S.-Israeli alliance in his administration.

"It's just another indication that despite the attempts to imply that Obama would somehow appoint the wrong person or listen to the wrong people when it comes to the U.S.-Israel relationship ... that was never true," said Ira Forman, executive director of the National Jewish Democratic Council.

Forman said Obama's selection of Emanuel helps build confidence that the United States will be vigilant in responding to any threats to Israel posed by Iran.

"Rahm has certainly never been accused of being too naive or not decisive in his analysis of these types of issues," Forman said.

Here and around the world, the selection brought swift reaction. The Web site for the Israeli newspaper Haaretz on Wednesday was filled with articles on what an Obama presidency would mean for Israel. The top story, on Emanuel, noted his deep Jewish roots.

Emanuel is the son of a Jerusalem-born doctor who worked for the Israeli underground before the nation's creation following World War II. The congressman belongs to an orthodox congregation in Chicago and worked as a volunteer in Israel during the first Gulf War.

Though Obama was accused of being conciliatory toward Iran and toward Palestinians during the presidential race, an Emanuel appointment could combat those perceptions.

Last summer, Obama's campaign gave conflicting statements over how he views the status of Jerusalem. He told the American Israel Public Affairs Committee that Jerusalem "must remain undivided," but later he said it would be a matter of negotiation.

Emanuel, though, has indicated consistent support for Israel's rights. While he has expressed empathy for Palestinians, Emanuel has explicitly condemned their leaders.

In June 2007, Emanuel condemned an outbreak of Palestinian violence in the Gaza Strip and criticized Arab countries for not applying the same kind of pressure on the Palestinians as they have on Israel.

"Fatah and Hamas are tearing the Palestinian area of the Gaza strip apart in what they call a political rivalry, and the Palestinian people are paying a price for Palestinian violence," he said at the time. "Governments from around the world and the Arab world have said nothing. ... I just want you to think for a second, if this were the result of Israeli-Palestinian hostilities, would the international silence and the silence of the Arab world be this deafening?"

At a 2003 pro-Israel rally in Chicago, Emanuel told the marchers Israel was ready for peace but would not get there until Palestinians "turn away from the path of terror," according to the Chicago Tribune.

It's unclear exactly how an Obama administration would handle the Israel-Palestine peace process, which has failed to take off during the Bush administration. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice left Wednesday for a series of peacemaking meetings in the Middle East, but so far the kind of agreement sought at last year's Annapolis summit has been elusive.

"I would expect that what we are going to do is we're going to try to put this process in the best possible place going forward so that whomever comes next can formulate their policies, take a look at the process and possibly use it, take it further," State Department spokesman Sean McCormack told reporters, adding that upcoming elections in Israel further complicate matters.


http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11...signal-israel/
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No he's not.

Emmanuel is one of the biggest political scam artists going.
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:52 PM
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Watch out...when Benjamin Netanyahu wins the Israeli election with Likud, Kadima and Labor are OUT and Netanyahu is not going to be steamrolled by Obama & Co. like he was with Clinton.

If Obama or Emanual try and roll Israel, the GOP will be waiting to score points.

Go, Bibi !!!!!!
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I think it was more of a signal to the republicans about how the new regime will be working with them.
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Originally Posted by ZL1Vette View Post
Watch out...when Benjamin Netanyahu wins the Israeli election with Likud, Kadima and Labor are OUT and Netanyahu is not going to be steamrolled by Obama & Co. like he was with Clinton.

If Obama or Emanual try and roll Israel, the GOP will be waiting to score points.

Go, Bibi !!!!!!
I dont follow. Selecting Emanuel only indicates that Obama supports Israel. why would Benji be concerned about being steamrolled? What am I missing here?
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I think it was more of a signal to the republicans about how the new regime will be working with them.
He is a real bipartisan type of guy
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:37 PM
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At this point of his political career he was known for his intensity. Notably, he reportedly told British Prime Minister Tony Blair, "This is important. Don't **** it up." prior to Blair appearing in public with Clinton for the first time after the Lewinsky scandal emerged.[9] Emanuel is said to have "mailed a rotting fish to a former coworker after the two parted ways."[8] On the night after the Clinton election, "Emanuel was so angry at the president's enemies that he stood up at a celebratory dinner with colleagues from the campaign, grabbed a steak knife and began rattling off a list of betrayers, shouting 'Dead! ... Dead! ... Dead!' and plunging the knife into the table after every name."[1] His "take-no-prisoners attitude" earned him the nickname "Rahm-bo".[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahm_Emanuel
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On the night after the Clinton election, "Emanuel was so angry at the president's enemies that he stood up at a celebratory dinner with colleagues from the campaign, grabbed a steak knife and began rattling off a list of betrayers, shouting 'Dead! ... Dead! ... Dead!' and plunging the knife into the table after every name."[1] His "take-no-prisoners attitude" earned him the nickname "Rahm-bo".[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahm_Emanuel

if those enemies include anti-american countries and their anti-american leaders, it sounds like a guy I want in my cabinet

Sometimes the only way to defeat the crazies out there is to have 1 or 2 crazies on your side.

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From Hemi-reuters

"Rahm is one of the most partisan politicians in the country and a consummate Washington insider," said Kevin Smith, spokesman for House Republican Leader John Boehner.

"It would be an ironic and controversial choice, to say the least, for a presidential candidate running on a promise to change Washington," Smith said.

'CRACKING DEMOCRATIC HEADS'

Republican strategist John Feehery suggested Emanuel was chosen to help keep the Democrats in line.

"It's good for Obama," Feehery said. "He is going to spend most of his time cracking Democratic heads, getting them to move from the left to the middle. Obama is going to need a bad cop to his good cop. Emanuel fills that role nicely."

http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCan...4A4BB320081105
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At this point of his political career he was known for his intensity. Notably, he reportedly told British Prime Minister Tony Blair, "This is important. Don't **** it up." prior to Blair appearing in public with Clinton for the first time after the Lewinsky scandal emerged.[9] Emanuel is said to have "mailed a rotting fish to a former coworker after the two parted ways."[8] On the night after the Clinton election, "Emanuel was so angry at the president's enemies that he stood up at a celebratory dinner with colleagues from the campaign, grabbed a steak knife and began rattling off a list of betrayers, shouting 'Dead! ... Dead! ... Dead!' and plunging the knife into the table after every name."[1] His "take-no-prisoners attitude" earned him the nickname "Rahm-bo".[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahm_Emanuel


Sounds like a worthy opponant.
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Emanuel was privately contemptuous of such complaints. He saw the Black Caucus as one more party faction, like conservative Democrats, that would rather complain than work. Asked about the number of black staffers at the DCCC--two African-Americans were on his senior staff of about 10 people--he waved his hand dismissively. "You know that every [DCCC] chairman has faced the same criticism?" he said. "OK. So I don't give a [expletive]," he added, literally spitting.

Then he began ranting about his conservative party colleagues. "They hate me too, because I'm arrogant and pushy with them. ... Because they've never, ever WORKED! NOBODY! NONE OF 'EM!"

http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-ra...1.story?page=3
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From Hemi-reuters

"It's good for Obama," Feehery said. "He is going to spend most of his time cracking Democratic heads, getting them to move from the left to the middle. Obama is going to need a bad cop to his good cop. Emanuel fills that role nicely."

http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCan...4A4BB320081105

Rahm and Obama wanting to force people to the middle? Pulllllleeeeeeezzzz!

More like cracking the heads of the blue dog dems.
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At this point of his political career he was known for his intensity. Notably, he reportedly told British Prime Minister Tony Blair, "This is important. Don't **** it up." prior to Blair appearing in public with Clinton for the first time after the Lewinsky scandal emerged.[9] Emanuel is said to have "mailed a rotting fish to a former coworker after the two parted ways."[8] On the night after the Clinton election, "Emanuel was so angry at the president's enemies that he stood up at a celebratory dinner with colleagues from the campaign, grabbed a steak knife and began rattling off a list of betrayers, shouting 'Dead! ... Dead! ... Dead!' and plunging the knife into the table after every name."[1] His "take-no-prisoners attitude" earned him the nickname "Rahm-bo".[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahm_Emanuel

"Emanuel was encouraged by his mother to take ballet lessons as a boy and is a graduate of the Evanston School of Ballet. He won a scholarship to the Joffrey Ballet but turned it down to attend Sarah Lawrence College, a liberal arts school with a strong dance program."
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I dont follow. Selecting Emanuel only indicates that Obama supports Israel. why would Benji be concerned about being steamrolled? What am I missing here?
Netanyahu was sandbagged by Clinton at Wye. Arafat was allowed to let promises slip -- i.e., stopping suicide bombers -- while Israel was supposed to keep turning over territory. Bibi was told that Israel would pressure Arafat later; instead, Clinton and his staff openly campaigned for Labor's Ehud Barak (Carville actually ran his campaign).

Forget what Bibi says about Obama: he doesn't trust him, and he knows HE'S in the drivers seat because Obama can't be seen as leaning on Israel, even favoring a Laborite. He'll antagonize Jewish liberals, embolden the GOP to accuse him of favoring Arabs, and probably seal his fate on foreign affairs.
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"Emanuel was encouraged by his mother to take ballet lessons as a boy and is a graduate of the Evanston School of Ballet. He won a scholarship to the Joffrey Ballet but turned it down to attend Sarah Lawrence College, a liberal arts school with a strong dance program."
Overcompensating, maybe?

Betcha he drives a 'Vette.
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I think it shows Barry Soetoro is reaching across the aisle and is working to bring the country together.
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