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Old 10-27-2012, 01:57 PM
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And so the nightmare continues...

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Old 10-27-2012, 02:08 PM
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I love the line "Voting for Obama is like the Titanic backing up and hitting the iceberg again."
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The big question, did they vote for or against obama in 2008???
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My biz did better in '09 than '08, and better again in '10 and '11. 2012 is looking great as well.

Sounds to me like they didn't make the proper adjustments, and failed.

Sorry, but blaming any one person just sounds like whining.
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My biz did better in '09 than '08, and better again in '10 and '11. 2012 is looking great as well.

Sounds to me like they didn't make the proper adjustments, and failed.

Sorry, but blaming any one person just sounds like whining.
Are you a plumber?
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Are you a plumber?
Nope.
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Originally Posted by hulksdaddy View Post
Nope.
Then your business growth is nto a basis for comparison.

Is your business at all related to residential/commercial construction, service or repair?
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Then your business growth is nto a basis for comparison.

Is your business at all related to residential/commercial construction, service or repair?
You're right. My business relies purely on discretionary income, non-essential, so is much tougher to maintain in a bad economy.

Thanks for making me see that.
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excellent video.

I can definitely relate to this as we had very similar circumstances with our business.

Laid off our employees in 2010. The costs of keeping the doors open and lack of income, cancellation of projects from 08 to 2010, led us to close our doors in early 2011. We kept selling assets through 2010 in an attempt to stay afloat. We had previously refinanced our home in 09 in an attempt to keep going as we were not drawing any income in an attempt to keep our employees working. All for nothing. Fortunately we did not end up in the same circumstance as these poor people.

We were lucky to sell our home and move to AZ, buy a home and be able to live on a fixed income. When you build a business from the ground up, put everything you have into it, watch your hopes and dreams for the future destroyed, see your employees who you valued also as friends being told they are done is gut wrenching at the least.
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Originally Posted by hulksdaddy View Post
You're right. My business relies purely on discretionary income, non-essential, so is much tougher to maintain in a bad economy.

Thanks for making me see that.
Dude, you're a tattoo artist. Bored, unemployed people love getting tattoos.
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Old 10-27-2012, 02:27 PM
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You're right. My business relies purely on discretionary income, non-essential, so is much tougher to maintain in a bad economy.

Thanks for making me see that.
Notice how you simply avoided facts. So - what is your business? Do you employ 32 people and maintain a fleet of vehicles?

Do you have fixed overhead that you can only shrink by laying off folks?
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Liberal answer:

Yeah but you made 2 million dollars what are you complaining about.

They will miss the 2.5m expenses part.
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Dude, you're a tattoo artist. Bored, unemployed people love getting tattoos.
With my artistic skills, you do NOT want me putting anything permanent on your body.
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Old 10-27-2012, 02:44 PM
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Notice how you simply avoided facts. So - what is your business? Do you employ 32 people and maintain a fleet of vehicles?

Do you have fixed overhead that you can only shrink by laying off folks?
12 permanent, 7 part time. No fleet, but 3 commercial rents.

Point?
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The big question, did they vote for or against obama in 2008???
Many people were played the fool, and voted for Obama the first time. Not me, but that is another story. Those who would vote for Obama the second time are just too stupid to deserve to deserve to share Oxygen with the rest of the human race.
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12 permanent, 7 part time. No fleet, but 3 commercial rents.

Point?
You avoided the "what line of business" question.
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Old 10-27-2012, 02:50 PM
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Dude, you're a tattoo artist. Bored, unemployed people love getting tattoos.
There are plenty of crackers, rednecks and trailer trash to make his business thrive.
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You avoided the "what line of business" question.
Retail.

Again, point?
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Dude, you're a tattoo artist. Bored, unemployed people love getting tattoos.
Are you serious? Wow..
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Originally Posted by hulksdaddy View Post
You're right. My business relies purely on discretionary income, non-essential, so is much tougher to maintain in a bad economy.

Thanks for making me see that.
I guess your business has peaked out, then. An improved economy would not benefit you in the form of increased business?
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