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Old 04-19-2017, 09:12 AM   #21
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^^ Brexit can't be quashed now that article 50 has been implemented.

The UK is leaving one way or another whether you like it or not, and that is that.
On paper yes..
In reality it really depends on how it is achieved. We could still remain part of the single market, customs union etc..
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On paper yes..
In reality it really depends on how it is achieved. We could still remain part of the single market, customs union etc..
With all due respect Afy, you need a little history lesson. The UK was never really a part of the EU - one glaring example is the UK kept their own currency and never adopted the Euro. The UK was, and always has been, an island in more ways than one.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...p-with-the-eu/
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With all due respect Afy, you need a little history lesson. The UK was never really a part of the EU - one glaring example is the UK kept their own currency and never adopted the Euro. The UK was, and always has been, an island in more ways than one.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...p-with-the-eu/
And if you really look back into the depths of History.. Henry VIII came up with the original idea. Forming a pact between the English, French and Germans primarily.

The Euro has nothing to do with the UK being a part of the single market et al. You have to realise that a hard Brexit will leave the UK with fewer trade ties than probably Zimbabwe.

Yes on this topic we are on opposite sides. However I believe Ms May is wrong in her approach.
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And if you really look back into the depths of History.. Henry VIII came up with the original idea. Forming a pact between the English, French and Germans primarily.

^^For political and military purpose as was the norm then not for trading.

The Euro has nothing to do with the UK being a part of the single market et al.You have to realise that a hard Brexit will leave the UK with fewer trade ties than probably Zimbabwe.

^^You do know that the UK has the 5th biggest global economy and that 20% of all cars built in Germany end up here. We also import other goods heavily from Greece,Cyprus,Italy,Spain,France and Germany, which gives us a lot of buying power and if pushed too hard we can wreak havoc on the economies of EU countries which are in dire straights anyway, they need us more than we need them.

But hey why let facts get in the way of your agenda.


Yes on this topic we are on opposite sides. However I believe Ms May is wrong in her approach.
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What the F is she thinking?
She's smart, she'll increase power of her party in the Parliament by a refreshing 20%...

British labor party is in deep ****.
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Don't let the withdrawal from the single market, customs union and and single tariff get in your way.

Without the right agreements you're under WTO rules without a single agreement in place.

Sure we can import the cars paying massive tariffs.. and similarly export heavily taxed goods.
Yes that is a recipe for success.

Please do a little research beyond listening to the moronic statements from Farage.
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And if you really look back into the depths of History.. Henry VIII came up with the original idea. Forming a pact between the English, French and Germans primarily.

The Euro has nothing to do with the UK being a part of the single market et al. You have to realise that a hard Brexit will leave the UK with fewer trade ties than probably Zimbabwe.

Yes on this topic we are on opposite sides. However I believe Ms May is wrong in her approach.
The entire premise of the European Union was (and continues to be) very, very simple : stop Germany from becoming too powerful in Europe.

The End.

Te EU was designed to finally put an end to millennia of wars in Europe.
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The entire premise of the European Union was (and continues to be) very, very simple : stop Germany from becoming too powerful in Europe.

The End.

Te EU was designed to finally put an end to millennia of wars in Europe.
In that it has been very successful.
However that was not the only purpose. But we digress.

I suspect that there will be a substantial vote for folk other than the Tories who will oppose Ms. May. This may just become an election based on personalities.

Lets see what happens.
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The public is fickle.. and given the buyers remorse don't take anything for granted.

In the current climate I wouldn't even rule out the moron Corbyn's chances. (Hope in hell)
Already baked in the cake. It's over for the E.U..
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In that it has been very successful.
However that was not the only purpose. But we digress.

I suspect that there will be a substantial vote for folk other than the Tories who will oppose Ms. May. This may just become an election based on personalities.

Lets see what happens.
Yet the E.U. has demanded forced acceptance of ISIS fighters, and even worse the incremental replacement of the population by accelerated muslim births.

You call this success in stopping wars? It's a hostile foreign invasion.
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Yet the E.U. has demanded forced acceptance of ISIS fighters, and even worse the incremental replacement of the population by accelerated muslim births.

You call this success in stopping wars? It's a hostile foreign invasion.
Do not confuse policy with misguided humanitarianism. You really don't understand that the EU has little to do with the attitude of its members towards accepting refugees.
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Do not confuse policy with misguided humanitarianism. You really don't understand that the EU has little to do with the attitude of its members towards accepting refugees.
Did you miss the threats of the E.U. against members refusing to accept muslims from all over the M.E. and Africa having nothing to do with refugees?

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017...gary-migrants/

That you call it refugees and misguided humanitarianism says a lot.

The E.U. is a serious problem for the nations in Europe, the people are seeing that now.

The. E.U. will end, and nations will form agreements amongst each other without that centralization of corrupt power.

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Did you miss the threats of the E.U. against members refusing to accept muslims from all over the M.E. and Africa having nothing to do with refugees?

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017...gary-migrants/

That you call it refugees and misguided humanitarianism says a lot.

The E.U. is a serious problem for the nations in Europe, the people are seeing that now.

The. E.U. will end, and nations will form agreements amongst each other without that centralization of corrupt power.
twas the e/u concept opened the door to muslim terror- puttin' the genie back in the bottle won't work, the genie needs to go back where it came from on flying carpets




this- hayek explained it in his book - the last chapter on internationalism. cliff- at some point the weaker members all get pissed at the big ones and they all get pizzed at each other
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The entire premise of the European Union was (and continues to be) very, very simple : stop Germany from becoming too powerful in Europe.

The End.

Te EU was designed to finally put an end to millennia of wars in Europe.
backfired- germany rules europe thru brussels- the end

merkle is now both queen and central banker of europe - the rest are little more than trickle down beggars fro scraps from sovereign germany
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backfired- germany rules europe thru brussels- the end

merkle is now both queen and central banker of europe - the rest are little more than trickle down beggars fro scraps from sovereign germany
Correct. That is why the EU is a failure.
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