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Old 02-09-2019, 11:49 PM
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1,000 scientists go public with doubts on evolution

'Careful examination of the evidence of Darwinian theory should be encouraged'

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More than 1,000 highly influential scientists from around the world have gone on record with their doubts about Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution.

They hail from institutions such as Harvard, Johns Hopkins, Columbia, Tulane, Rice and Baylor, the National Academy of Sciences, the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, the British Museum and MIT’s Lincoln Library.

We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life,” they say in a statement. “Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged.”

The scientists include the best in molecular biology, biochemistry, biology, entomology, computational quantum chemistry, microbiology, psychiatry and behavioral sciences, astrophysics, marine biology, cellular biology, physics and astronomy, math, physics, geology and anthropology, according to Evolution News, an online publication of the Discovery Institute in Seattle, which promotes the theory of intelligent design.

The Discovery Institute first published its “Scientific Dissent from Darwinism” list in The New York Review of Books in 2001 to challenge “false” claims from PBS’ series “Evolution.”

PBS had claimed “virtually every scientist in the world believes the theory to be true.”

But biologist Douglas Axe, director of the Biologic Institute, argued peer pressure is obscuring the truth.

“Because no scientist can show how Darwin’s mechanism can produce the complexity of life, every scientist should be skeptical,” he said. “The fact that most won’t admit to this exposes the unhealthy effect of peer pressure on scientific discourse.”

Originally, Discovery Institute Chairman Bruce Chapman assembled a list of 100 doctorate-level scientists for the statement.

“Realizing that there were likely more scientists worldwide who shared some skepticism of Darwinian evolution and were willing to go on record, the Institute has maintained the list and added to it continually since its inception,” the Evolution News report said.

“The list of signatories now includes 15 scientists from the National Academies of Science in countries including Russia, Czech Republic, Brazil, and the United States, as well as from the Royal Society. Many of the signers are professors or researchers at major universities and international research institutions such as the University of Cambridge, London’s Natural History Museum, Moscow State University, Hong Kong University, University of Stellenbosch in South Africa, Institut de Paléontologie Humaine in France, Ben-Gurion University in Israel, MIT, the Smithsonian, Yale, and Princeton,” it noted.

Marcos Eberlin, Ph.D., founder of the Thomson Mass Spectromety Laboratory and member of the National Academy of Sciences in Brazil, said in the report, “As a biochemist I became skeptical about Darwinism when I was confronted with the extreme intricacy of the genetic code and its many most intelligent strategies to code, decode, and protect its information.”

Michael Egnor, professor of neurosurgery and pediatrics at State University of New York, Stony Brook, said scientists “know intuitively that Darwinism can accomplish some things, but not others.”

“The question is what is that boundary? Does the information content in living things exceed that boundary? Darwinists have never faced those questions,” he said. “They’ve never asked scientifically, can random mutation and natural selection generate the information content in living things.”

What say ye, High Priests of the Most High Darwins?

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I wonder if that army of skeptics have views on the vast diversity of species and yet similarity in DNA.

What alternative theory does that "army" present to explain the above?

Sounds like a group of "creationists" at the gate again...
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Well since evolutionary theory relies on geology the whole thing is a joke. The “science” of geology has so many disproved theories that anyone who has studied the subject and is intellectually honest should go back to their alma mater and demand their money back. There are thousands upon thousands of polystrate fossils that go through what is supposedly millions of years of sedimentary rock. Whatever kind of wood it was...I want to make a house out of it as it apparently can withstand millions of years of weathering before it eventually gets covered in sediments and fossilizes.
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No such thing as "settled science", whether it's evolution, MMGW, space-time, gender/sexuality, medicine etc. We're still learning. Every single day.
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Ahahahahaha ******* hilarious creationist website. It’s perfectly fine to question all scientific findings. Darwin was spot on, and that website was a shitshow of misinformation and silliness. No disrespect OP.

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Ahahahahaha ******* hilarious creationist website. It’s perfectly fine to question all scientific findings. Darwin was spot on, and that website was a shitshow of misinformation and silliness. No disrespect OP.
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Well since evolutionary theory relies on geology the whole thing is a joke. The “science” of geology has so many disproved theories that anyone who has studied the subject and is intellectually honest should go back to their alma mater and demand their money back. There are thousands upon thousands of polystrate fossils that go through what is supposedly millions of years of sedimentary rock. Whatever kind of wood it was...I want to make a house out of it as it apparently can withstand millions of years of weathering before it eventually gets covered in sediments and fossilizes.
Huh ??
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I thought that we were all living in a computer-generated universe......
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Anyone ever do any computer programming? When you go to write a new application, you re use your code from previous projects if you can. Think of DNA as your source code, and all of a sudden life on Earth very much looks like it was programmed. Stuff like your appendix? Left over code that was benign so they didn't bother removing it. Drop the divine aspect of it and read through Genesis 1 and substitute "God" with "super advanced civilization." All of a sudden it reads like an advanced civilization terraformed the planet and then created life to exist in every part of it, which are both things we theorize about now. Almost like Venus, Earth and Mars were all attempts, but Venus and Mars didn't work out.
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No such thing as "settled science", whether it's evolution, MMGW, space-time, gender/sexuality, medicine etc. We're still learning. Every single day.
The more we learn, the less we know.
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No such thing as "settled science", whether it's evolution, MMGW, space-time, gender/sexuality, medicine etc. We're still learning. Every single day.
You're spending too much time in the casinos, Jen. Come out and feel the sunshine. Let the rays of truth enlighten you.

The details of these "theories" may be tweaked by improved scientific techniques, but the "theories" hold true.
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Certainly evolution isn't it all, but, 2000 years of messing with a wolf has done what!?

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Originally Posted by Sifu-TZ View Post
Ahahahahaha ******* hilarious creationist website. It’s perfectly fine to question all scientific findings. Darwin was spot on, and that website was a shitshow of misinformation and silliness. No disrespect OP.

The website is a joke, doesn’t matter if it was 10,000 “scientists” doesn’t make it any more of a fact.
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I think natural selection is real. The survivors of a species pass on those traits that have allowed them to survive improving the survival rate of said species. But there is such an easy logical argument to disprove evolution whereby we as humans and all life evolved from single cell creatures from the ocean. Why did it stop? If evolution is the deal just because humans are here does not mean the process stops, it continues. Everybody is looking for the link between man and monkeys, but it should still be here. Monkeys should still be evolving along with everything else on the planet. Evolution has no time table. Just because humans arrived the process should not have stopped and we should be evolving into something else. The process should still be going on and all of the intermediate steps should still exist.

Thee's another thing that bothers me about this whole evolution deal. According to evolutionists there was this "soup" floating around a bolt of lightening and BINGO we are here. Well why is it the first time we had the soup and BINGO a bolt of lightning we got Dinosaurs? Same soup, same bolt of lightning, one time Dinosaurs, one time us. Seems to be to a bit more involved than what they are telling us.

On the same note when they talk about Global Warming and how much time we have left, Al Gore in the 90s gave us 10 years and now AOC is giving us 12 years. Obviously these people never read any books. The last life form that disappeared due to Climate Change beyond their control was the Dinosaurs. There was an event (a meteor) or a series of events (meteor + volcanic eruptions) that caused the climate to change and BINGO no more Dinosaurs. It's the time line that's all screwed up. Man in all of our forms, has been on the earth for 200,000 years. Dinosaurs were on the earth for 250,000,000 years; we are relatively new comers to the neighborhood. But when the famous Meteor hit around the Yucatan peninsula it took the Dinosaurs 65,000 years from that point before they were finally extinct. I gotta figure we have a bit of time to figure out best how to handle Global Warming. If you read the press you'd think the Meteor hit and within a few years the Dinosaurs were all dead. It took 65,000 years or 1/3 of the time man has been on the planet. If people can live and survive above the Arctic Circle or above 12,000 ft in the Andes Mountains, a few degrees of temperature warmup really is not going to bother us. We are a hardy species despite what the news keeps telling us.
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I think natural selection is real. The survivors of a species pass on those traits that have allowed them to survive improving the survival rate of said species. But there is such an easy logical argument to disprove evolution whereby we as humans and all life evolved from single cell creatures from the ocean. Why did it stop? If evolution is the deal just because humans are here does not mean the process stops, it continues. Everybody is looking for the link between man and monkeys, but it should still be here. Monkeys should still be evolving along with everything else on the planet. Evolution has no time table. Just because humans arrived the process should not have stopped and we should be evolving into something else. The process should still be going on and all of the intermediate steps should still exist.

Thee's another thing that bothers me about this whole evolution deal. According to evolutionists there was this "soup" floating around a bolt of lightening and BINGO we are here. Well why is it the first time we had the soup and BINGO a bolt of lightning we got Dinosaurs? Same soup, same bolt of lightning, one time Dinosaurs, one time us. Seems to be to a bit more involved than what they are telling us.

On the same note when they talk about Global Warming and how much time we have left, Al Gore in the 90s gave us 10 years and now AOC is giving us 12 years. Obviously these people never read any books. The last life form that disappeared due to Climate Change beyond their control was the Dinosaurs. There was an event (a meteor) or a series of events (meteor + volcanic eruptions) that caused the climate to change and BINGO no more Dinosaurs. It's the time line that's all screwed up. Man in all of our forms, has been on the earth for 200,000 years. Dinosaurs were on the earth for 250,000,000 years; we are relatively new comers to the neighborhood. But when the famous Meteor hit around the Yucatan peninsula it took the Dinosaurs 65,000 years from that point before they were finally extinct. I gotta figure we have a bit of time to figure out best how to handle Global Warming. If you read the press you'd think the Meteor hit and within a few years the Dinosaurs were all dead. It took 65,000 years or 1/3 of the time man has been on the planet. If people can live and survive above the Arctic Circle or above 12,000 ft in the Andes Mountains, a few degrees of temperature warmup really is not going to bother us. We are a hardy species despite what the news keeps telling us.
who told you we went from soup to here?
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When it comes to the determination of scientific facts, democracy is irrelevant. It doesn't matter if 1000 "scientists" believe this or believe that.

At one point in history, it appears that 100% of the worlds educated people* and 100% of the worlds uneducated people had.a belief that was different than the belief of one man.....Galileo believed the earth was round and everyone else believed it was flat....we all know how that worked out eventually. (Actually being threatened to being burned alive at the stake caused Galileo to change his mind.). Galileo's one vote was the vote that established that the world was round. .
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* There was at least one Greek philosopher that thought/suspected the world was round.

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The shape and size of the Earth was well known in antiquity. The Greeks knew, the Sumerians knew long before that.
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You're spending too much time in the casinos, Jen. Come out and feel the sunshine. Let the rays of truth enlighten you.

The details of these "theories" may be tweaked by improved scientific techniques, but the "theories" hold true.
Never said they didn't. I happen to believe the theory of evolution is at least partially correct. Evidence all around. Not saying there's anything inherently wrong with the theory, it's just not 100%. We're still learning.
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I think natural selection is real. The survivors of a species pass on those traits that have allowed them to survive improving the survival rate of said species. But there is such an easy logical argument to disprove evolution whereby we as humans and all life evolved from single cell creatures from the ocean. Why did it stop? If evolution is the deal just because humans are here does not mean the process stops, it continues. Everybody is looking for the link between man and monkeys, but it should still be here. Monkeys should still be evolving along with everything else on the planet. Evolution has no time table. Just because humans arrived the process should not have stopped and we should be evolving into something else. The process should still be going on and all of the intermediate steps should still exist.

Thee's another thing that bothers me about this whole evolution deal. According to evolutionists there was this "soup" floating around a bolt of lightening and BINGO we are here. Well why is it the first time we had the soup and BINGO a bolt of lightning we got Dinosaurs? Same soup, same bolt of lightning, one time Dinosaurs, one time us. Seems to be to a bit more involved than what they are telling us.

On the same note when they talk about Global Warming and how much time we have left, Al Gore in the 90s gave us 10 years and now AOC is giving us 12 years. Obviously these people never read any books. The last life form that disappeared due to Climate Change beyond their control was the Dinosaurs. There was an event (a meteor) or a series of events (meteor + volcanic eruptions) that caused the climate to change and BINGO no more Dinosaurs. It's the time line that's all screwed up. Man in all of our forms, has been on the earth for 200,000 years. Dinosaurs were on the earth for 250,000,000 years; we are relatively new comers to the neighborhood. But when the famous Meteor hit around the Yucatan peninsula it took the Dinosaurs 65,000 years from that point before they were finally extinct. I gotta figure we have a bit of time to figure out best how to handle Global Warming. If you read the press you'd think the Meteor hit and within a few years the Dinosaurs were all dead. It took 65,000 years or 1/3 of the time man has been on the planet. If people can live and survive above the Arctic Circle or above 12,000 ft in the Andes Mountains, a few degrees of temperature warmup really is not going to bother us. We are a hardy species despite what the news keeps telling us.
What makes you think we stopped evolving?
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The shape and size of the Earth was well known in antiquity. The Greeks knew, the Sumerians knew long before that.

But, but, but... 97% BELIEVED otherwise (without any valid proof)!

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'Careful examination of the evidence of Darwinian theory should be encouraged'


This is a perfect example of the beauty of the scientific process: Until it's proven---question everything. I accept evolution theory as it stands today and would be disappointed if members of the scientific community weren't actively trying to falsify the theory b/c science is self-correcting.
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