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Old 02-10-2019, 04:40 PM
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Powered by a gas engine.
Great idea, like those little supplementary motors they have for heating on RVs!
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Old 02-11-2019, 01:51 AM
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All within the realm of research go drive a tesla or any high end electric. If you dont like it (at least a little) you are just being salty.

Quick as hell, quiet, and cheap to operate.
when i can charge the battery as fast as gas up a car and they have a thousand mile range, and they dont cost any more, i might buy one.
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Old 02-11-2019, 03:56 AM
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I know there are several theories on why batteries do worse in cold weather. I lean toward the theory that a portion of batteries energy comes from the environment. It would be possible to over come the cold problem but will need an additional energy source to warm the batteries.
Build a fire under them.........
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and they'll short out if you drive them in the rain.

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Old 02-11-2019, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by krackenvette View Post
Where does the electricity come from to operate it? Nuclear, Coal, Hydro, Wind?
Mostly coal. Figure out the CO2 emissions required to recharge a Tesla, and you will realize its allot..
Then, how do we make the magical Lithium Ion battery's? Hmm, no environmental impact there, lol.
What do we do when LioN battery's die? Junkyard, thats what as they have not perfected a recycling , yet.
The End result is pretty nice, but there is still energy being used to make it run.
A valid point in many locales, although here in CA we use very little coal for electricity. A fair amount of natural gas, to be sure, but also a lot of hydro, plus non-trivial amounts of solar, and some wind and geo-thermal. Actually, I'm using an alternative electricity provider (with PG&E providing the transport, and the billing). This alternative provider certifies to >50% of their generation being from renewables. Here is a link to their current breakdown for "Light Green" electricity:


I signed up with them because it was supposed to be modestly cheaper than PG&E. If you wanted to be 100% renewables, the bill was going to be a bit more than PG&E. But I am motivated by cost.... And even the PG&E-sourced electricity is on the order of 1/3 from renewables, presumably using the same categorization of "large hydro" as non-renewable.

Note that "large hydro" (from our larger dams), is actually classified as non-renewable, along with natural gas (I don't agree with that characterization, which seems motivated by environmentalists not wanting large dams....)

Plus, a fair number of EV owners put solar on their rooftops, if they are able to sell excess afternoon solar back to the utility (or, if they also have a battery system for their house).

I'm not an EV owner, personally (although one of our cars is a hybrid), and don't have rooftop solar, either. (Our electrical usage is pretty low, to begin with.) But the economic argument for EVs is fairly decent in our area, in part because of high gasoline taxes..... (which I don't agree with, either, but am stuck with). Of course, at some point CA will start taxing for road usage, even by EVs.....

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