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Old 02-10-2019, 12:02 PM
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Forget about CO2 being 15 times higher 600 million years ago leading to the greatest expansion of life on Earth.

Forget about CO2 being 200 times higher in the past.

Forget about CO2 being 400 ppm today compared to 6000-7500 ppm 600 million years ago, and 80,000 ppm in the first atmosphere.

10,000 years ago, CO2 was about 275 ppm, yet read about global warming below regardless of CO2:

The Holocene Climate Optimum (HCO) was a warm period during roughly the interval 9,000 to 5,000 years BP. It has also been known by many other names, such as Altithermal, Climatic Optimum, Holocene Megathermal, Holocene Optimum, Holocene Thermal Maximum, Hypsithermal, and Mid-Holocene Warm Period.
The Holocene Climate Optimum warm event consisted of increases of up to 4 C near the North Pole (in one study, winter warming of 3 to 9 C and summer of 2 to 6 C in northern central Siberia).[1]
Northwestern Europe experienced warming, but there was cooling in Southern Europe.[2] The average temperature change appears to have declined rapidly with latitude and so essentially no change in mean temperature is reported at low and middle latitudes. Tropical reefs tend to show temperature increases of less than 1 C; the tropical ocean surface at the Great Barrier Reef about 5350 years ago was 1 C warmer and enriched in 18O by 0.5 per mil relative to modern seawater.[3] In terms of the global average, temperatures were probably warmer than now (depending on estimates of latitude dependence and seasonality in response patterns).[[url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed]citation needed] While temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere were warmer than average during the summers, the Tropics and parts of the Southern Hemisphere were colder than average.[4]

Out of 140 sites across the western Arctic, there is clear evidence for conditions warmer than now at 120 sites. At 16 sites, where quantitative estimates have been obtained, local HTM temperatures were on average 1.60.8 C higher than now. Northwestern North America had peak warmth first, from 11,000 to 9,000 years ago, and the Laurentide ice sheet still chilled the continent. Northeastern North America experienced peak warming 4,000 years later. Along the Arctic Coastal Plain in Alaska, there are indications of summer temperatures 23 C warmer than present.[5] Research indicates that the Arctic had less sea ice than the present.[6]

Current desert regions of Central Asia were extensively forested due to higher rainfall, and the warm temperate forest belts in China and Japanwere extended northwards.[7]

West African sediments additionally record the African Humid Period, an interval, between 16,000 and 6,000 years ago, when Africa was much wetter. This was caused by a strengthening of the African monsoon by changes in summer radiation, resulting from long-term variations in the Earth's orbit around the Sun. The "Green Sahara" was dotted with numerous lakes, containing typical African lake crocodile and hippopotamus fauna. A curious discovery from the marine sediments is that the transitions into and out of the wet period occurred within decades, not the previously-thought extended periods.[8] It is hypothesized that humans played a role in altering the vegetation structure of North Africa at some point after 8,000 years ago, when they introduced domesticated animals. This introduction contributed to the rapid transition to the arid conditions found in many locations in the Sahara.[9]

In the far Southern Hemisphere (New Zealand and Antarctica), the warmest period during the Holocene appears to have been roughly 8,000 to 10,500 years ago, immediately following the end of the last ice age.[10]
[11] By 6,000 years ago, the time normally associated with the Holocene Climatic Optimum in the Northern Hemisphere, they had reached temperatures similar to present ones, and they did not participate in the temperature changes of the north. However, some authors have used the term "Holocene Climatic Optimum" to describe the earlier southern warm period, as well.
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Were they using those polluting mercury thermostats back then too?
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Were they using those polluting mercury thermostats back then too?
yes, the stone ones
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Antarctica was once a lush tropical rain forest so, obviously the climate changes. Yosemite was carved by retreating glaciers, so yes it is easy to see that the climate has changed. Many examples exist that the climate has changed quite a few times over the last few billion years.

The key difference is now some liberal elites have found a way to get super rich by convincing the ignorant people that if they give all of their money, these elites can control the climate.
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Unlike liberals....I thank climate change for coal....
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Unlike liberals....I thank climate change for coal....
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Originally Posted by Cygnus View Post
Antarctica was once a lush tropical rain forest so, obviously the climate changes. Yosemite was carved by retreating glaciers, so yes it is easy to see that the climate has changed. Many examples exist that the climate has changed quite a few times over the last few billion years.

The key difference is now some liberal elites have found a way to get super rich by convincing the ignorant people that if they give all of their money, these elites can control the climate.

When you get right down to it, we haven't advanced that far as a species from when we just used to throw virgins in a volcano to appease the "volcano gods". Only these days, cretins sell snake oil like this to the ignorant masses for power and money.

P.T. Barnum was right.
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Originally Posted by owebo View Post
Unlike liberals....I thank climate change for coal....


I can see some Dem, scratching their head and wondering what you mean.
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LOL!!!!!!!!! Global Warming is soooooooooo.....yesterday........... Today it is called Climate Change.
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LOL!!!!!!!!! Global Warming is soooooooooo.....yesterday........... Today it is called Climate Change.
wrong, that is so 2016... now it is Climate Disruption.
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wrong, that is so 2016... now it is Climate Disruption.
Bingo! It's just that simple.
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wrong, that is so 2016... now it is Climate Disruption.

new ice age....then...global warming....them climate change...now climate disruption...which is it....
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As I am now older, I always seem to have either the air-conditioner or the heater on while driving. Most of my life, I used to just roll down the window!!!!
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new ice age....then...global warming....them climate change...now climate disruption...which is it....
Mother Nature, and not a dang thing anyone can do about it.......
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As I am now older, I always seem to have either the air-conditioner or the heater on while driving. Most of my life, I used to just roll down the window!!!!
EH, I"d love to see FLORIDA dry the hell OUT, for a change, folks at bottom of the hill would too, for sure.....
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Geo Engineering is a well documented activity... a number of Federal agencies are involved... its old news.

Go ahead and pull your conspiracy theory card out if you are that ignorant.... its here and its real... learn about it.

https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/
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Coldest Winter here in California I can remember in 30 years
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Coldest Winter here in California I can remember in 30 years

global warming
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Coldest Winter here in California I can remember in 30 years
Arctic ice is currently the same as it was 14 years ago.
MMGW scientists performed a great calculation and said there would be no Arctic ice.
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seattle getting a taste of GW too. Karma.


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