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When I hear libbies like PeterK complain about the new federal tax regulations I can’t help but wonder how he squares that with his belief that we should welcome all illegals in spite of the statistics which state they cost us a net of 116 Billion per year which adds to our individual tax liability.

If he has any reason to complain about taxes it should be directed towards his state of Maryland’s taxation which is the 12 th highest in the country at 10% of gross individual income.

Below is the ranking for all 50 states:


https://wallethub.com/edu/states-wit...-burden/20494/

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The purpose of the state tax deduction on federal taxes was to subsidize the liberal states. It should never have been.

I am in Alabama, fed tax last year had me paying $2900, this year we get back $168. Woo Woo love our President.
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The purpose of the state tax deduction on federal taxes was to subsidize the liberal states. It should never have been:
That's not accurate and you should know it. The purpose of the deduction was to prevent us paying federal taxes on money that had already gone on state taxes, ie prevent double taxation. Avoiding double taxation is one of the basics of a fair and equitable tax code. I'm pleased that your taxes went down in Alabama. Mine went up (a lot) in California. As a result, I do not share your view of the president.
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Except for sales tax not too bad here in AR
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Originally Posted by Gryphon_ View Post
That's not accurate and you should know it. The purpose of the deduction was to prevent us paying federal taxes on money that had already gone on state taxes, ie prevent double taxation. Avoiding double taxation is one of the basics of a fair and equitable tax code. I'm pleased that your taxes went down in Alabama. Mine went up (a lot) in California. As a result, I do not share your view of the president.
But the point is why should we create a situation where states and local governments have less incentive to be cost-efficient and help enable crazy real estate bubbles in those states while they simultaneously deprive the federal government of revenue, and push more burden on more-responsible states?
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Except for sales tax not too bad here in AR
I am very happy since I moved from Maryland to Delaware,which is rated as the 49th lowest taxed state. We have no state sales tax, a low state income tax with an exemption of SS earnings, a 12,500 pension exemption, and a school tax credit if you’re over 65 or disabled. Also property taxes are very low ranked the 47th lowest as a percentage of income. We also have an open carry law if you have a clean record, although most opt for a concealed carry permit which is available for law abiding citizens.

If Delaware can provide services and it’s infrastructure without raping it’s citizens with exorbitant taxes, why can’t other states also do it?

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Though the State Tax deduction did reduce being taxed by both state & Fed. on the same income, it also made the sheeple more tolerant of high state income taxes.

This had the net effect of spreading state income taxes across the entire US population in order to obtain the same net Fed. income tax revenue.

Though I'm not sure how my total tax burden will move this year, I don't feel that my state's high tax rate burden should be paid for by residents of other states in spite of my governor's rantings.
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But the point is why should we create a situation where states and local governments have less incentive to be cost-efficient and help enable crazy real estate bubbles in those states while they simultaneously deprive the federal government of revenue, and push more burden on more-responsible states?
You can look it up and will find that most of the red states get more in federal money than they contribute in federal taxes e.g. they are a burden on the union. On the other hand states like California pay in far more than they take out.

The fact is - republicans have engineered the tax legislature that benefits the wealthy residing in the low tax states e.g. Trump and Florida. This is likely to backfire on them in the 2020 election when a lot more GOP senators will be up for the re-election than in 2018.
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Originally Posted by Red 50th Anniversary View Post
I am very happy since I moved from Maryland to Delaware,which is rated as the 49th lowest taxed state. We have no state sales tax, a low state income tax with an exemption of SS earnings, a 12,500 pension exemption, and a school tax credit if youíre over 65 or disabled. Also property taxes are very low. We also have an open carry law if you have a clean record, although most opt for a concealed carry permit which is available for law abiding citizens.

If Delaware can provide services and itís infrastructure without raping itís citizens with exorbitant taxes, why canít other states also do it?
Because they have crappy schools and no jobs. It maybe great for elderly but not so good for young.
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I'm 50th but still gonna bitch about taxes.
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I'm 50th but still gonna bitch about taxes.
At least you can see Russia from there
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At least you can see Russia from there
you didnít know that?
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At least you can see Russia from there
And perhaps one day, you'll see the light

(but I doubt it)
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Originally Posted by PeterK View Post
You can look it up and will find that most of the red states get more in federal money than they contribute in federal taxes e.g. they are a burden on the union. On the other hand states like California pay in far more than they take out.

The fact is - republicans have engineered the tax legislature that benefits the wealthy residing in the low tax states e.g. Trump and Florida. This is likely to backfire on them in the 2020 election when a lot more GOP senators will be up for the re-election than in 2018.
The dumb from you is endless:

States don't pay taxes people do.
Just for you:




Welfare Caseloads > Total recipients (per capita) (most recent) by state:


# 1 District of Columbia:7.835 per 100 people

# 2 Guam:6.397 per 100 people

# 3 Rhode Island:3.319 per 100 people

# 4 Tennessee:3.026 per 100 people

# 5 California:3.005 per 100 people

# 6 Maine:2.842 per 100 people

# 7 Alaska:2.4 per 100 people

# 8 West Virginia:2.283 per 100 people

# 9 Indiana:2.241 per 100 people

# 10 Washington:2.238 per 100 people

# 11 New Mexico:2.23 per 100 people

# 12 Vermont:2.044 per 100 people

# 13 Michigan:2.001 per 100 people

# 14 Hawaii:1.993 per 100 people

# 15 Montana:1.932 per 100 people

# 16 Arizona:1.875 per 100 people

# 17 Missouri:1.872 per 100 people

# 18 Kentucky:1.838 per 100 people

# 19 Minnesota:1.825 per 100 people

# 20 New York:1.771 per 100 people

# 21 Iowa:1.743 per 100 people

# 22 Massachusetts:1.695 per 100 people

# 23 Pennsylvania:1.669 per 100 people

# 24 Ohio:1.641 per 100 people

# 25 Mississippi:1.547 per 100 people

# 26 Nebraska:1.54 per 100 people

# 27 Delaware:1.464 per 100 people

# 28 Texas:1.459 per 100 people

# 29 Georgia:1.455 per 100 people

# 30 Kansas:1.424 per 100 people

# 31 Puerto Rico:1.394 per 100 people

# 32 North Dakota:1.351 per 100 people

# 33 US Virgin Islands:1.25 per 100 people

# 34 Louisiana:1.241 per 100 people

# 35 Connecticut:1.233 per 100 people

# 36 Oregon:1.197 per 100 people

# 37 New Jersey:1.168 per 100 people

# 38 New Hampshire:1.15 per 100 people

# 39 South Carolina:1.129 per 100 people

# 40 Maryland:1.108 per 100 people

# 41 Nevada:1.07 per 100 people

# 42 Oklahoma:1.014 per 100 people

# 43 Alabama:0.98 per 100 people

# 44 North Carolina:0.966 per 100 people

# 45 Virginia:0.928 per 100 people

# 46 Arkansas:0.913 per 100 people

# 47 Utah:0.883 per 100 people

# 48 Wisconsin:0.862 per 100 people

# 49 South Dakota:0.792 per 100 people

# 50 Illinois:0.783 per 100 people

# 51 Colorado:0.747 per 100 people

# 52 Florida:0.669 per 100 people

# 53 Idaho:0.224 per 100 people

# 54 Wyoming:0.143 per 100 people

http://www.statemaster.com/graph/eco...nts-per-capita

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I am very happy since I moved from Maryland to Delaware,which is rated as the 49th lowest taxed state. We have no state sales tax, a low state income tax with an exemption of SS earnings, a 12,500 pension exemption, and a school tax credit if youíre over 65 orgt.org disabled. Also property taxes are very low ranked the 47th lowest as a percentage of income. We also have an open carry law if you have a clean record, although most opt for a concealed carry permit which is available for law abiding citizens.

If Delaware can provide services and itís infrastructure without raping itís citizens with exorbitant taxes, why canít other states also do it?
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Because they have crappy schools and no jobs. It maybe great for elderly but not so good for young.
You are being disingenuous. Compared to all 50 states, Maryland high schools is rated #3 and attained a gold or silver rating of 24.1, Delaware was rated #10 out of all 50 states with a gold or silver rating of 18.4. Lower than Maryland but is still better than 40 other states, so I wouldnít go so far as calling Delawareís schools as being crappy.
https://www.usnews.com/education/bes...states-compare

Delaware must have some jobs as it is rated as #26 with an unemployment rate of 3.7, incidentally Maryland is rated as #29th with an unemployment rate of 3.9 so apparently it has fewer jobs than Delaware.

https://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm


Maryland does have a higher median income of 75,855 compared to Delaware median income of 61,255 but that is largely a result of DC government workers with high salaries who reside in Marylandís Prince Georgeís, Montgomery and Howard counties which skew the states overall figure. Additionally, Marylandís higher income tax, sales tax on virtually everything, 6% vehicle purchase tax, higher property taxes and every other tax they can get passed further reduces or eliminates the spread of median income between the two states.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ries_by_income

Even though Maryland has a higher median income, it also has a higher cost of living and is rated 20th with a dollar being only worth .91 cents compared to Delaware being rated #8 with a dollar being worth a dollar and therefore has a higher purchasing power than Maryland. In the end itís all relative but when you look at the tax structures and personal liberties, Delaware comes out far ahead.
https://247wallst.com/special-report...n-every-state/
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Originally Posted by Red 50th Anniversary View Post
I am very happy since I moved from Maryland to Delaware,which is rated as the 49th lowest taxed state. We have no state sales tax, a low state income tax with an exemption of SS earnings, a 12,500 pension exemption, and a school tax credit if youíre over 65 or disabled. Also property taxes are very low ranked the 47th lowest as a percentage of income. We also have an open carry law if you have a clean record, although most opt for a concealed carry permit which is available for law abiding citizens.

If Delaware can provide services and itís infrastructure without raping itís citizens with exorbitant taxes, why canít other states also do it?
I too escaped Marylandís millionaires tax.
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Originally Posted by Red 50th Anniversary View Post
When I hear libbies like PeterK complain about the new federal tax regulations I canít help but wonder how he squares that with his belief that we should welcome all illegals in spite of the statistics which state they cost us a net of 116 Billion per year which adds to our individual tax liability.

If he has any reason to complain about taxes it should be directed towards his state of Marylandís taxation which is the 12 th highest in the country at 10% of gross individual income.

Below is the ranking for all 50 states:


https://wallethub.com/edu/states-wit...-burden/20494/
PeterK is fro the Ocasio-Cortez mindset - money and burden on producers is irrelevant to their perceived "moral high ground" and irregardless of how far it makes our country sink...

The denial of reality is breathtaking...
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Though the State Tax deduction did reduce being taxed by both state & Fed. on the same income, it also made the sheeple more tolerant of high state income taxes.

This had the net effect of spreading state income taxes across the entire US population in order to obtain the same net Fed. income tax revenue.

Though I'm not sure how my total tax burden will move this year, I don't feel that my state's high tax rate burden should be paid for by residents of other states in spite of my governor's rantings.
And it's no surprise which states are in the top 10:



https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/researc...utm_source=Pew

California ranks 11th.

This isn't about avoiding 'double taxation' or any other such nonsense. It's about spreading the profligate government spending over the entirety of the the US population.
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That is pretty messed up when property taxes steel 2-4% of your of your home price every year in most states. If you own a $300k home, which is about low to average price in most areas now, you pay $6-12k a year in property taxes. If you make around the $100k a year that is necessary to afford a $300k mortgage, the local and state government take 6-12% of your income. Even if you rent, you still pay that property tax through your landlord. It really affects everyone, and it really pisses me off that there is not one state that has stood up and said a never ending taxing on what people own is immoral and done away with property taxes.

I just bought a new truck a few months ago. I moved to Colorado last year. I check the taxes and think I know what I am going to pay, but nope, the taxes are based on the msrp not the actual sales price of the vehicle, and they have some kind of other 2% tax on a vehicle that is based on the msrp instead of the sales price. I paid $37k for the truck the sticker was $46k, and my taxes ended up being over $4500 when they should be around $3000. I don't understand how that **** is even legal.

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That's not accurate and you should know it. The purpose of the deduction was to prevent us paying federal taxes on money that had already gone on state taxes, ie prevent double taxation. Avoiding double taxation is one of the basics of a fair and equitable tax code. I'm pleased that your taxes went down in Alabama. Mine went up (a lot) in California. As a result, I do not share your view of the president.
Wrong, it just shifts the burden from the state to the federal. It is not fair that you get to deduct just because your state chooses to have high taxes. If your state government that you picked decided to double your tax burden it should not allow you to escape a large portion of your federal taxes, that is on you.

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