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Old 03-10-2019, 12:50 AM
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Doesn't Nancy Pelosi represent California in Congress? Maxine Waters? Adam Schiff? Eric Swalwell?

I guess the Democrats are the party of Typhus...
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Old 03-10-2019, 01:11 AM
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Doesn't Nancy Pelosi represent California in Congress? Maxine Waters? Adam Schiff? Eric Swalwell?

I guess the Democrats are the party of Typhus...
Why try to fix problems when there’s more important things to do like Impeaching Trump.
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I wonder if the Romans knew their empire was crumbling?
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Originally Posted by Rock-it Man View Post
The Republicans who have obstructed Medicare for all, and American capitalism in general for creating such vast income inequality that we have entire villages of homeless people within our major cities.
Only in the twisted mind of a left wing socialist lunatic could someone actually believe the above statement. Do you honestly think that each and every one of the homeless citizens don’t qualify for Medicaid as well as welfare and food stamps? Millions live on welfare without living on the street, what makes the homeless any different? As Bubba68ss mentions below, these people are there because of the bad choices they have made in life squandering whatever resources they are given on drugs and booze. Even the illegals included in the homeless group are given resources which they could utilize.

The truth of the the matter is that many if not most of the homeless prefer their nomad life living on the street where the only worry they have is where to get their next drug fix or bottle of booze. Otherwise they’d clean themselves up and get a job as any responsible member of society would do.

When you speak of capitalism and income inequality what you really mean is you expect an equal outcome without individuals exerting equal effort. There should be hard work and personal responsibility somewhere in the equation.

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Right. It’s republicans fault for people choosing to throw their lives away by drinking, doing drugs, being lazy or violent. Tell me that all these people had no significant input towards their current situation....

BTW, what’s stopping CA from giving HC and free money to these bums? Oh that’s right, they do. They still **** it away
I agree wholeheartedly with you. The homeless problem falls squarely on the liberal elected officials. Instead of wasting trillions on a train to nowhere they could have used that money to address the homeless problem in their cities by building housing, and providing drug counseling, and job programs rather than give them more needles to feed their habit and discard the needles on the streets and in the parks.
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I wonder if the Romans knew their empire was crumbling?
Probably not until it was waaaaay toooo late!
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Originally Posted by Red 50th Anniversary View Post
….As Bubba68ss mentions below, these people are there because of the bad choices they have made in life squandering whatever resources they are given on drugs and booze. Even the illegals included in the homeless group are given resources which they could utilize.

The truth of the matter is that many if not most of the homeless prefer their nomad life living on the street where the only worry they have is where to get their next drug fix or bottle of booze. Otherwise they’d clean themselves up and get a job as any responsible member of society would do.

When you speak of capitalism and income inequality what you really mean is you expect an equal outcome without individuals exerting equal effort. There should be hard work and personal responsibility somewhere in the equation.
I agree, especially with the highlighted. When I wrote post #12, which was well defined by this post, I had one particular person in mind, who has basically CHOSEN to be homeless....
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Old 03-10-2019, 09:33 AM
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Righties will blame the victims.
Nope. People need to be quarantined and medically evaluated prior to coming into USA. But, if they come in illegally, then that is their own damn fault.
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Old 03-10-2019, 09:55 AM
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A lot of blame going around. Still a typhus outbreak is serious. " As simple as..." solutions are not going to work in an epidemic. As odious as welfare recipients, homeless people are: what do you do with them? Or 12 million plus illegal immigrants. ..
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Old 03-10-2019, 10:04 AM
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close the damned border already,,and build the wall,and start arresting all illegals,and air dropping them ,back in their own countrys
Excellent idea and I agree with you 100%; but it's too late now and it's never going to happen.
I went to a very nice mall yesterday near Charlotte that I have been going to for years. I thought I had been dropped off in a mall in Mexico....
We might as well get used to it, because it's only going to get worse..
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who do you find at fault?
Originally Posted by Rock-it Man View Post
The Republicans who have obstructed Medicare for all, and American capitalism in general for creating such vast income inequality that we have entire villages of homeless people within our major cities.
List up the top 5 (or 10) homeless cities and let’s see if there is some common causation (Hmm - I wonder what it would be). While correlation does not equal causation, often correlation and causation are in agreement.
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Democrats will do anything for votes and cheap labor, even if it means killing a few babies and adults as long the way.
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Originally Posted by Rock-it Man View Post
The Republicans who have obstructed Medicare for all, and American capitalism in general for creating such vast income inequality that we have entire villages of homeless people within our major cities.
I honestly cunnot fathom the abject stupidity you post here.
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Old 03-10-2019, 12:52 PM
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I honestly cunnot fathom the abject stupidity you post here.
Because he took the brown acid.Downhill ever since.

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Old 03-10-2019, 01:02 PM
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Dr. Marc Siegel: Ancient typhus is plaguing modern day Los Angeles – How did we get here, what should we do?


Outbreak of 'medieval' typhus in Los Angeles spreads from homeless communities

Los Angeles city prosecutor one of the latest victims of typhus epidemic; Fox News medical contributor Dr. Marc Siegel weighs in.
Medieval life has made its way to modern-day Los Angeles, where groups of 4,000 or more homeless people huddle together on city streets constituting a “typhus zone.” In the heart of this west coast metropolis, storm drains are used for bodily waste, garbage piles up, and rats – yes, rats - (carrying fleas with typhus bacteria) swarm.

The rats are everywhere, climbing over the people, feeding off the garbage. Unfortunately, many of the fleas carry a tiny bacteria, a rickettsia, known as murine typhus. The fleas spread typhus to humans when flea-feces comes in contact with a victim’s cuts or their eyes.

What is typhus? Typhus is an ancient scourge that has been around for thousands of years. It’s the name for a group of infectious diseases that can leave patients with severe headaches, a fever, and a rash.

LA CITY HALL MAY REMOVE CARPETS AMID DOWNTOWN TYPHUS OUTBREAK

Of course, it has no place in a modern advanced society but there doesn’t seem to be any way for L.A. to get rid of it. The mayor of Los Angeles, Eric Garcetti, has pledged his support and funding to clean up the garbage, but so far the problem is getting worse, not better.

Ironically enough, this past week the typhus endemic spread to L.A. city hall itself, with rats and fleas infesting the old building to the point where LA officials are considering ripping out all the carpeting. Deputy City Attorney Liz Greenwood, who contracted typhus in City Hall said, “It felt like somebody was driving railroad stakes through my eyes and out the back of my neck.”

Indeed, typhus does cause a severe headache. It also may cause fever, muscle aches, fatigue, and a rash. It can be treated effectively with an antibiotic (doxycycline). Unfortunately, most of the homeless on the streets of L.A. don’t have access to the treatment.

L.A.’s homeless populations lives in cars, in tents, in lean-tos, in cardboard boxes. These streets were never intended for human habitation. There is a serious housing shortage in L.A. which has contributed to the growing numbers of homeless.

Homelessness surged by 75 percent from 2012 to 2018, due to a shortage of shelters or crumbling buildings to seek refuge in.

There are currently over 50,000 homeless people in L.A. County, with over 30,000 of them in the city of LA alone.

The homeless population is varied. First, almost a third of the homeless in Los Angeles are suffering from chronic mental illness. Second, among homeless adults with children, almost a third have reported working at least part-time. Imagine how dangerous it is from a public health point of view for working mothers with children to be living on the streets.

Unfortunately, L.A.’s restrictive land use policies have exacerbated the housing shortage brought on by businesses pulling up stakes and leaving town.

In New York City, which has put billions of dollars into its shelter system, only 5 percent of the homeless population does not have access to shelters, in L.A. by contrast, the number is a whopping 75 percent. Whereas the New York City government allocates roughly $17,000 for each homeless person, in LA it is only $5,000.

WHAT TO DO?

Cheap affordable subsidized housing in the form of projects and shelters are crucial to addressing the garbage/rats/fleas/typhus problem, even as regulations are loosened to attract more businesses. In addition, I believe that access to treatment for chronic mental illness including schizophrenia could be combined with placement programs.

We also need more direct public health services in terms of disease screenings and available antibiotics to treat typhus, which infected at least 124 people last year in L.A., and probably hundreds more whose symptoms went unreported.

Simply cleaning up the garbage in so-called “typhus zones” will not solve the problem, as people who have nowhere to go and nowhere to dispose of their waste will simply make more. And more garbage means more rats which means more fleas which means more typhus. Perhaps now that typhus has reached City Hall, the message will finally be received.
Marc Siegel, M.D. is a professor of medicine and medical director of Doctor Radio at NYU Langone Medical Center. He is a Fox News Medical Analyst. Follow him on Twitter @drmarcsiegel. https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/dr-m...t-should-we-do
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Originally Posted by Rock-it Man View Post
The Republicans who have obstructed Medicare for all,
So Medicare for everyone will solve all our medical problems? Forget we can't afford it, it's less efficient and we currently have government run Medicaid for anyone who can't afford insurance. Nice try.


Originally Posted by Rock-it Man View Post
and American capitalism in general for creating such vast income inequality that we have entire villages of homeless people within our major cities.
Now capitalism which is the cause for prosperity around the globe is to blame?

https://fee.org/articles/extreme-pov...er-capitalism/

The fact you think because someone has more someone else is doing with less shows us how uneducated and ignorant you really are.

And if you believe wealth inequality is the problem why are you bragging about your so called wealth? Why aren't you selling and liquidating your assets and giving it to those less fortunate who are homeless? Because you don't believe it for yourself . You are nothing but a "greedy capitalist" who partakes in capitalism. You are nothing but a fraud and a hypocrite.

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My wife volunteers at a local homeless services center, and one of the most frustrating things is when they find low-cost, affordable housing for one of their homeless "clients", get them moved in, set up, etc., and then in a month or two the person is back on the street, or back living in their car, because of drinking or drug problems, sometimes coupled with an inability to conform to even minimal "rules". But most often it is drugs or alcohol that accounts for the back-sliding.....

That's not to say that expensive housing isn't an issue.

One of the paradox's of CA is that the high cost of housing, coupled with (conversely) fairly good benefits and services for the homeless, result in an odd situation where it is hard to be a lower-income housed person, but fairly easy to be homeless. Which is partly why we have a lot of homeless, and why homeless people in CA don't move to lower-cost areas. (If anything, homeless people from other states come to CA, despite generally higher living costs....)
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Originally Posted by SilverC1 View Post
My wife volunteers at a local homeless services center, and one of the most frustrating things is when they find low-cost, affordable housing for one of their homeless "clients", get them moved in, set up, etc., and then in a month or two the person is back on the street, or back living in their car, because of drinking or drug problems, sometimes coupled with an inability to conform to even minimal "rules". But most often it is drugs or alcohol that accounts for the back-sliding.....

That's not to say that expensive housing isn't an issue.

One of the paradox's of CA is that the high cost of housing, coupled with (conversely) fairly good benefits and services for the homeless, result in an odd situation where it is hard to be a lower-income housed person, but fairly easy to be homeless. Which is partly why we have a lot of homeless, and why homeless people in CA don't move to lower-cost areas. (If anything, homeless people from other states come to CA, despite generally higher living costs....)
Let me add something to your comments. My wife has an old friend who, for some reason, married someone who is bi-polar, after her first marriage fell apart. All was reasonably well, for a few years, when they lived in the mid-west, as this woman's husband needed a warm place during the winter. Therefore, he stayed on his meds and "behaved".

About 4 years ago, this woman decided she wanted to be closer to her daughter and grandson, and moved to the San Francisco area. Her husband (actually they were estranged, by that time) got in CA, and the warm climate sent him off the rails. The need to be "inside" 4 months a year, due to the cold, didn't apply any longer, and he literally "took off", and for all intent and purpose he became "voluntarily homeless".....
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Originally Posted by Rock-it Man View Post
Righties will blame the victims.
Nice attempt at deflection. The reason we have a growing homeless problem is due to failed liberal policies. From the changes of the involuntary commitment laws to their meddling in the housing market and enabling massive numbers of single mother households.

The victims are the mentality Ill and the poor who are suffering due to your agenda of progressive government.

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maybe for the US Surgeon General to step into action; and, quarantine the whole freak'n state. Put a wall around it . . .
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And over all homeless rates are dropping in America. The rates are rising in areas that are liberal bastions simply because they refuse to do the right thing to solve the problem.

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