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Being a 2nd Amendment zealot doesn’t bother me as much as the self-ascribed “patriot” garbage that too many claim. Being a defender of your own “rights” does not make one a patriot any more that waving a flag does. The Founders were guided by higher princples beyond simply what was good and right for them. When they signed the Declaration, it wasn’t some BS social media post. They knew that if captured they faced being hanged for treason. My issue with 2nd Amendment folks is that that they stand only for themselves and ignore violations of more fundamental rights by the government toward people they don’t care about. Any time an unarmed person is shot by the police or by a civilian, there is no consideration or even a mention of the denial of due process. We hear “well, they must have been doing something” or “they were suspicious.” The Founders understood that without due process, there is no real liberty. Much like the opioid crisis, until it hits home (yes, I mean suburban and rural white folks), no one really cares what the government does to violate or disregard the rights of the other. Consistent application is the proof of deeply held principles. Everything else is worthy of little esteem.
I’m a constitutional zealot....just,for,the record...

Your writing style is fascinating though....humor me here....did you or are you going for an on line degree?
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I’m a constitutional zealot....just,for,the record...

Your writing style is fascinating though....humor me here....did you or are you going for an on line degree?
I'm guessing he just doesn't care whether or not he tops that record '10 - posts' a day.

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And you demonstrate the difference between you and me. You don’t know me or what I’m about. Your shorthand name-calling suggests that your thinking has been done for you. Libtard, gun-grabber and the like are cult talk and suggest that your confidence in your arguements is rather weak as is your resistance to mental conditioning. Work on your words. Maybe you could read a book. Washington, A Life by Ron Chernow is a good one.

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True...you liberal fucktards cut and pasted abortion, gay marriage, muskets, the Fed, etc into it with reckless abandon...
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And you demonstrate the difference between you and me. You don’t know me or what I’m about. Your shorthand name-calling suggests that your thinking has been done for you. Libtard, gun-grabber and the like are cult talk and suggest that your confidence in your arguements is rather weak as is your resistance to mental conditioning. Work on your words. Maybe you could read a book. Washington, A Life by Ron Chernow is a good one.
I’m working on what you are about...

i have ave a good idea in just a few of your posts....
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Do you seriously think I give a **** about how I appear in this shitshow. I’m just hereto have fun and mingle with America’s C students

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I'm guessing he just doesn't care whether or not he tops that record '10 - posts' a day.
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Do you seriously think I give a **** about how I appear in this shitshow. I’m just hereto have fun and mingle with America’s C students
We do appreciate you D students providing entertainment...
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Do you seriously think I give a **** about how I appear in this shitshow. I’m just hereto have fun and mingle with America’s C students
Do you seriously think I give a **** about how I appear in this shitshow. I’m just hereto have fun and mingle with America! Your Psychology!?

Besides we all like to make a point!

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"The right of the people to keep and bear arms"

Except this guy - jeezus people, admit when you're too effing doddering to drive or to carry a gun. For the rest of this kid's life no matter what complaint he has with his mother she can say "yeah, well at least I didn't SHOOT YOU!!".

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The good FAR outweighs the bad.

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Any Study Of 'Gun Violence' Should Include How Guns Save Lives

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Originally Posted by Brunello View Post
Being a 2nd Amendment zealot doesn’t bother me as much as the self-ascribed “patriot” garbage that too many claim. Being a defender of your own “rights” does not make one a patriot any more that waving a flag does. The Founders were guided by higher princples beyond simply what was good and right for them. When they signed the Declaration, it wasn’t some BS social media post. They knew that if captured they faced being hanged for treason. My issue with 2nd Amendment folks is that that they stand only for themselves and ignore violations of more fundamental rights by the government toward people they don’t care about. Any time an unarmed person is shot by the police or by a civilian, there is no consideration or even a mention of the denial of due process. We hear “well, they must have been doing something” or “they were suspicious.” The Founders understood that without due process, there is no real liberty. Much like the opioid crisis, until it hits home (yes, I mean suburban and rural white folks), no one really cares what the government does to violate or disregard the rights of the other. Consistent application is the proof of deeply held principles. Everything else is worthy of little esteem.
I like "all" of my rights and would like to keep them all intact. If I want to keep a gun in the nightstand frankly it's none of the government's business and I shouldn't have to ask permission either. That being said I would be more than welcome to re-examine the concept of qualified immunity as exercised by our government and police. We've had a few cases right here in MA (deep blue liberal land) where swat teams descended on the wrong house at 4AM and dragged people kicking and screaming into the street wondering what the hell they are being rousted out of bed for.
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Originally Posted by Rock-it Man View Post
That didn't happen, of course. But it needs to happen now. Even here in Massachusetts, 14 year old gang bangers have guns and are having shoot-outs in the street.

Guns are not being used to defend freedom, but to take lives and terrorize the general population.

Those gang bangers in Massachusetts are getting let out of jail for $50 in bail money and receive probation as their ultimate sentence from those same 'tough' Massachusetts gun laws. In fact many of these gang bangers have committed multiple violent crimes involving guns while out on bail. It happens every day. But you know don't lock up the violent criminals like the criminal justice system is supposed to be doing make everyone else a victim. What a putz.
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Do you seriously think I give a **** about how I appear in this shitshow. I’m just hereto have fun and mingle with America’s C students
See if you can focus maybe you can learn something.
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Originally Posted by Brunello View Post
And you demonstrate the difference between you and me. You don’t know me or what I’m about. Your shorthand name-calling suggests that your thinking has been done for you. Libtard, gun-grabber and the like are cult talk and suggest that your confidence in your arguements is rather weak as is your resistance to mental conditioning. Work on your words. Maybe you could read a book. Washington, A Life by Ron Chernow is a good one.
If you dont understand the simple words of the 2A I hate see what other amendments you cant comprehend.
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See if you can focus maybe you can learn something.
Like I've said, they now need to take our guns too so the minority Jews can fully orchestrate their take over by immigration! Learn my hard lessons brother!

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You're a strange libtard.
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You're a strange libtard.
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Originally Posted by Brunello View Post
Being a 2nd Amendment zealot doesn’t bother me as much as the self-ascribed “patriot” garbage that too many claim. Being a defender of your own “rights” does not make one a patriot any more that waving a flag does. The Founders were guided by higher princples beyond simply what was good and right for them. When they signed the Declaration, it wasn’t some BS social media post. They knew that if captured they faced being hanged for treason. My issue with 2nd Amendment folks is that that they stand only for themselves and ignore violations of more fundamental rights by the government toward people they don’t care about. Any time an unarmed person is shot by the police or by a civilian, there is no consideration or even a mention of the denial of due process. We hear “well, they must have been doing something” or “they were suspicious.” The Founders understood that without due process, there is no real liberty. Much like the opioid crisis, until it hits home (yes, I mean suburban and rural white folks), no one really cares what the government does to violate or disregard the rights of the other. Consistent application is the proof of deeply held principles. Everything else is worthy of little esteem.
You say "2nd Amendment folks" like you intend it to be an insult and make a lot of baseless, broad assertions. By "zealot" you apparently mean someone who insists that the Constitution be followed. Anyone who's made even a modest effort to examine the 2A knows gov't tyranny is part of the concerns of the Founders and Framers. I take it you haven't made any such effort.

I'm a "2A person" and I've specifically mentioned elsewhere in here how the cops too often end up handing out de facto death sentences in cases where the person they kill wasn't threatening them - Eric Garner and Walter Scott being two good examples.

However, "unarmed" doesn't mean that someone isn't lethally dangerous or that there's no justification for shooting them. Both Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown were examples where there was obvious justification to shoot them.

until it hits home (yes, I mean suburban and rural white folks), no one really cares what the government does to violate or disregard the rights of the other.
You sound like a card-carrying social justice warrior. Let's see how much you really care about the welfare of US citizens. How do you feel about the circumstances that allowed for all these people to become victims? By circumstances I mean lax immigration enforcement and a porous border.

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Originally Posted by johnglenntwo
I'm guessing he just doesn't care whether or not he tops that record '10 - posts' a day.
That's completely coherent english.
What changed?
Or is all the other badly translated nonsense just bullshit?
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