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Old 05-10-2019, 08:38 PM
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Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Not owning another human being is a civil right... and protecting yourself or another human being often times falls under the term "personal responsibility".

Every man and woman is responsible for staying alive. You are not suppose to let other people kill you in random or targeted situations.

Is that clear? Or do you need examples?

Lets be clear about one thing... the Barbarians are at the Gates... they will take your rights away as fast as they can if you let them.
I honestly donít think he has any clue what you are talking about....
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To the OP, laws and rights change naturally as society evolves. Example, you had the right to own another human being 150 yrs ago and today you don't. We (the people) revoked that right. Rights are also created/granted as society evolves. Example, today women can vote and even more recently some people can smoke pot.

For those about to quote the constitution, that changes too as our society changes. If not, we'd have zero amendments to the constitution.
They divide them in and divide some of the total out. It's a relative thing the DHS for instance is currently being sued about with respect to their immigrants affect on our environment. Everything parses relatively from the oxygen you breath to the paving you travel on.
Trump thus far has really sold this out!

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https://projects.propublica.org/graphics/gdp

President Trump has promised to increase U.S. economic growth – in fact, he’s banking on it. The budget he proposed to Congress in May assumes a 3 percent growth rate, and the White House website promises a return to 4 percent annual economic growth.

That runs directly into political reality, which is that Trump’s base, and indeed much of his campaign rhetoric, was focused on voters who view immigrants as a threat to their livelihoods. Immigration does not usually come up when Trump speaks on the subject of economic growth.

This at best business and at worse political continued phenomenon is on our backs and yes relieving us of our rights!

Why are mass shootings increasing as this continues and invades our schools for instance? An indirect consequence, one of many, I say!
  • Our guns going away from us
  • Our universal Healthcare mandate
  • etc etc

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Old 05-11-2019, 05:15 AM
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Rights come from God and do not change.

Laws come from men in power, often violate the rights of other men, and change all the time.

It is the duty of good men to disobey unjust laws and removed from power those who would abrogate their rights

This is basic Humanity/Civics and all good parents teach this to their children
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https://projects.propublica.org/graphics/gdp

President Trump has promised to increase U.S. economic growth – in fact, he’s banking on it. The budget he proposed to Congress in May assumes a 3 percent growth rate, and the White House website promises a return to 4 percent annual economic growth.

That runs directly into political reality, which is that Trump’s base, and indeed much of his campaign rhetoric, was focused on voters who view immigrants as a threat to their livelihoods. Immigration does not usually come up when Trump speaks on the subject of economic growth.

This at best business and at worse political continued phenomenon is on our backs and yes relieving us of our rights!

Why are mass shootings increasing as this continues and invades our schools for instance? An indirect consequence, one of many, I say!
  • Our guns going away from us
  • Our universal Healthcare mandate
  • etc etc
You might want to think a bit about your first sentence... it is disjointed in a way I can't describe. From what i gather you are an anti Trumper... which tells me you have totally succumbed to the leftist progressive propaganda.

Be clear about one thing... the leftist dimtards are out of control when it comes to the laws and the Constitution they will break every thing in every way possible to subvert this country and this president.

But, it appears you can't understand that fact or even begin to understand how that is happening

Why are mass shootings happening? Good question... do you want to blame it on Trump? Do you want to blame it on guns?

How about considering all the ways our youth is being desensitized to the killing on people? How about the rappers in the music industry speaking in ways that glorify killing cops and doing time in jail

as a worthy accomplishment? How about all the racist cards played by the media and the political hacks that use race to divide us?

Universal Health care mandate? You better get educated about what that really means... you can't be stupid enough to own a Corvette and think government run health care is the answer... can you?

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Old 05-13-2019, 07:50 AM
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You might want to think a bit about your first sentence... it is disjointed in a way I can't describe. From what i gather you are an anti Trumper... which tells me you have totally succumbed to the leftist progressive propaganda.

Be clear about one thing... the leftist dimtards are out of control when it comes to the laws and the Constitution they will break every thing in every way possible to subvert this country and this president.

But, it appears you can't understand that fact or even begin to understand how that is happening

Why are mass shootings happening? Good question... do you want to blame it on Trump? Do you want to blame it on guns?

How about considering all the ways our youth is being desensitized to the killing on people? How about the rappers in the music industry speaking in ways that glorify killing cops and doing time in jail

as a worthy accomplishment? How about all the racist cards played by the media and the political hacks that use race to divide us?

Universal Health care mandate? You better get educated about what that really means... you can't be stupid enough to own a Corvette and think government run health care is the answer... can you?
Read afomentioned: It's the Jewish Mastermind 'Facts on the Ground'!

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Old 05-13-2019, 08:23 AM
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Our country has been corrupted by having strong minority Jews in both parties with their collective immigration stance.
Trump is literally with them on immigration, and further corrupting the country because of it.

IE Trump didn't get after a bill the Republicans did finally last minute, and then Trump hedged. He is acting! Look at it and just look at him.

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Voting booth is an excellent place to start. Keep electing ***** hat wearing liberals and you get what you ask for.
Other than buying some time, voting does very little when the left controls the education system.
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Originally Posted by Zrxmax View Post
Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Not owning another human being is a civil right... and protecting yourself or another human being often times falls under the term "personal responsibility".

Every man and woman is responsible for staying alive. You are not suppose to let other people kill you in random or targeted situations.

Is that clear? Or do you need examples?

Lets be clear about one thing... the Barbarians are at the Gates... they will take your rights away as fast as they can if you let them.
If that's true, you're screwed. You can't stop "the barbarians" with your doomsday shelter or your collection of guns. Get a few dozen neighbors together and the result is the same, nothing you can do about it but go down shooting.
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If that's true, you're screwed. You can't stop "the barbarians" with your doomsday shelter or your collection of guns. Get a few dozen neighbors together and the result is the same, nothing you can do about it but go down shooting.
We started the most powerful country the world has ever seen....so thereís that beta boy....
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Voting booth is an excellent place to start. Keep electing ***** hat wearing liberals and you get what you ask for.
Typical cuckservative response. In case you haven't noticed, you've had a number of majority R governments over the decades who failed to do **** all to stop the erosion of liberties.
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Typical cuckservative response. In case you haven't noticed, you've had a number of majority R governments over the decades who failed to do **** all to stop the erosion of liberties.
They're making America great again. They just decided to waste 2 years of full congressional control and NOW they're ready to make America great again.....
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They're making America great again. They just decided to waste 2 years of full congressional control and NOW they're ready to make America great again.....
You LWNJs sure did make a mess....
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A bureaucracy that wields all the power and decides on its own remuneration will NEVER sit idle.

Cuckservatives actually believe that voting Republican will get them their liberties back like how many friggin times do you have to be proven wrong for it to set in? Your conservatives aren't conserving ****.

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A bureaucracy that wields all the power and decides on its own remuneration will NEVER sit idle.

Cuckservatives actually believe that voting Republican will get them their liberties back like how many friggin times do you have to be proven wrong for it to set in? Your conservatives aren't conserving ****.
Pence and an Emergency hold on all new immigrant Citizenship until we get an updated bypartasen bill. The bypartasen part with even a neutral President is set-up right now. We can talk all day long (as we do) but only in a solution can we find an answer, and be right.

We continue to fight and pay in mostly a worthless middle east, now justifiably$$$
A lost cause there, but fixing us here is mandatory and possible.

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In business it is referred to as a monopoly! They happen and get broke up.
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Originally Posted by Dr Bee View Post
To the OP, laws and rights change naturally as society evolves. Example, you had the right to own another human being 150 yrs ago and today you don't. We (the people) revoked that right. Rights are also created/granted as society evolves. Example, today women can vote and even more recently some people can smoke pot.

For those about to quote the constitution, that changes too as our society changes. If not, we'd have zero amendments to the constitution.
This post exposes serious ignorance. Rights do not change over time. Owning a slave was never a right. It was simply legal to do so. Something being legal does not make it a right.

Just like abortion is NOT a right.
Healthcare or health insurance is NOT a right
immigration is not a right
housing, healthy food, cell phones, internet access are not rights.

The right to to speak your mind (codified as freedom of speech) existed from the dawn of time whether man-made governing bodies recognized it or not. Same with religion, assembly, self defense, and all the natural rights.

Iím betting you think the Bill of Rights grant these rights. I donít doubt you have a PhD. You have all the signs. Elitist, superiority complex, leftist beliefs, etc. but you might want to retake some civics courses.
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This post exposes serious ignorance. Rights do not change over time. Owning a slave was never a right. It was simply legal to do so. Something being legal does not make it a right.

Just like abortion is NOT a right.
Healthcare or health insurance is NOT a right
immigration is not a right
housing, healthy food, cell phones, internet access are not rights.

The right to to speak your mind (codified as freedom of speech) existed from the dawn of time whether man-made governing bodies recognized it or not. Same with religion, assembly, self defense, and all the natural rights.

I’m betting you think the Bill of Rights grant these rights. I don’t doubt you have a PhD. You have all the signs. Elitist, superiority complex, leftist beliefs, etc. but you might want to retake some civics courses.
Read the thread, start with post #15

The bolded is gonna upset a lot of PRC regulars, i.e. don't tell GaryFinn, he'll lose 5 nights of sleep immediately.

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Originally Posted by Snorkie View Post
This post exposes serious ignorance. Rights do not change over time. Owning a slave was never a right. It was simply legal to do so. Something being legal does not make it a right.

Just like abortion is NOT a right.
Healthcare or health insurance is NOT a right
immigration is not a right
housing, healthy food, cell phones, internet access are not rights.

The right to to speak your mind (codified as freedom of speech) existed from the dawn of time whether man-made governing bodies recognized it or not. Same with religion, assembly, self defense, and all the natural rights.
What a load of horseshit. Natural rights? As if nature itself grants you anything other than the air you breathe and the earth you walk on....

Abortion isn't a natural right but somehow freedom of religion is? Ever heard of infanticide? Humans (and most animals) have been killing their offspring since the dawn of time. How's that for a natural right? And you have the audacity to call the other guy elitist .... as if you're God and you get to decide what's natural and what isn't.
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Word of caution... agreeing with owebo is probably something you should rethink. Rights absolutely change. They are also created and destroyed.

Some say "natural rights" cannot be created or destroyed but that can of worms will be up for debate until the end of time. The rights we are discussing here are legal rights. Today it is legal to bear arms. If we amended the constitution tomorrow that legal right could be removed, destroyed. Simple (just like owebo!).
The right to bear arms is necessary for freedom from tyranny. Even if the 2nd A didn't exist our right to life is first in foremost for people who choose to not live under a dictators control.

Consider how this country became the country it is today in spite of all the political obstructionist of personal freedoms.

Do you think America would exist if it were not for the power of guns?
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