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How do we get our basic human right of self protection back to carry?

Why are there gun free zones? (this was a terrible idea) Guns at school or anywhere are fine if the PERSON and INTENT are not a problem.

At what point did WE vote on THEM taking away the right to carry a gun(tool) at anytime or place?

How do we stop THEM using CCW licenses as revenue and a way to restrict or rights? And human rights trump the stupid paper man made rights.

How do stop censorship?

We can't stop humans from being the bad animals they are and we can't make the world a safe place. If humans are not after you nature is.

How do we educated people to stop allowing people with so called "creative, progressive, ideas" from ruining what made America "America"?

Seriously now is the time to stop this stuff. Fine private held companies don't want people swearing etc on THEIR platform, BUT people should not lose jobs and suffer over free speech either.

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Voting booth is an excellent place to start. Keep electing ***** hat wearing liberals and you get what you ask for.
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How do we get our basic human right of self protection back to carry?
Move to Alabama
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Originally Posted by tikiman View Post
Voting booth is an excellent place to start. Keep electing ***** hat wearing liberals and you get what you ask for.
There are only two places remaining after the ballot box...

The jury box....

and, the cartridge box....
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To the OP, laws and rights change naturally as society evolves. Example, you had the right to own another human being 150 yrs ago and today you don't. We (the people) revoked that right. Rights are also created/granted as society evolves. Example, today women can vote and even more recently some people can smoke pot.

For those about to quote the constitution, that changes too as our society changes. If not, we'd have zero amendments to the constitution.
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To the OP, laws and rights change naturally as society evolves. Example, you had the right to own another human being 150 yrs ago and today you don't. We (the people) revoked that right. Rights are also created/granted as society evolves. Example, today women can vote and even more recently some people can smoke pot.

For those about to quote the constitution, that changes too as our society changes. If not, we'd have zero amendments to the constitution.
Rights never change however, just the level of oppression you liberals force upon people...
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To the OP, laws and rights change naturally as society evolves. Example, you had the right to own another human being 150 yrs ago and today you don't. We (the people) revoked that right. Rights are also created/granted as society evolves. Example, today women can vote and even more recently some people can smoke pot.

For those about to quote the constitution, that changes too as our society changes. If not, we'd have zero amendments to the constitution.
You are kidding yourself. You are owned. Even a self employed individual is owned.

Where I live there are no free spaces to live, no free place to hunt and fish, nothing to buy not taxed, nothing to do that does not require money except walk.

Taking away rights / creating laws is not evolving.

Many races were slaves, women voting was a scam, women in the work place is a scam. It is the more the merrier. " Why only employ the men? Let us employ and tax them ALL. Let them all pretend to vote on US."

Not saying owning people was right, but that is nowhere in the same world as owning tools That is silly talk. In fact I could argue a person that takes away my right to own something or protect myself and others is no different than a person that "owns" another and takes away their individual human experience.

One example is a human life or a being, the other is an item that PEOPLE deem for their own views as something not needed.

How about if tree huggers say "no more corvettes or sports cars" See how out of line that is? It is not okay, we are all here and entitled to OUR experience

Anything is a weapon if intended, so who ever is against "fire arms" should carry one and do more with their life. Maybe hug people more to spread love instead of focusing on what they can take away from others.

People and predators are bad. Guns were created / evolved over time to solve these problems.

Evolving would mean we solved the root problem that is what makes people want to do bad things to other beings.

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Originally Posted by Dr Bee View Post
To the OP, laws and rights change naturally as society evolves. Example, you had the right to own another human being 150 yrs ago and today you don't. We (the people) revoked that right. Rights are also created/granted as society evolves. Example, today women can vote and even more recently some people can smoke pot.

For those about to quote the constitution, that changes too as our society changes. If not, we'd have zero amendments to the constitution.
The last sentence is true. So I say to liberals AMEND THE DAMN CONSTITUTION as set forth by the founders if you want to stomp on the 2nd.

Until that is done every single law that has been passed to infringe on my right is complete bullshit and I will not follow it.
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Rights never change however, just the level of oppression you liberals force upon people...
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Originally Posted by pologreen1 View Post
You are kidding yourself. You are owned. Even a self employed individual is owned.

Where I live there are no free spaces to live, no free place to hunt and fish, nothing to buy not taxed, nothing to do that does not require money except walk.

Taking away rights / creating laws is not evolving.

Many races were slaves, women voting was a scam, women in the work place is a scam. It is the more the merrier. " Why only employ the men? Let us employ and tax them ALL. Let them all pretend to vote on US."

Not saying owning people was right, but that is nowhere in the same world as owning tools That is silly talk. In fact I could argue a person that takes away my right to own something or protect myself and others is no different than a person that "owns" another and takes away their individual human experience.

One example is a human life or a being, the other is an item that PEOPLE deem for their own views as something not needed.

How about if tree huggers say "no more corvettes or sports cars" See how out of line that is? It is not okay, we are all here and entitled to OUR experience

Anything is a weapon if intended, so who ever is against "fire arms" should carry one and do more with their life. Maybe hug people more to spread love instead of focusing on what they can take away from others.

People and predators are bad. Guns were created / evolved over time to solve these problems.

Evolving would mean we solved the root problem that is what makes people want to do bad things to other beings.
I think you're stuck on the word "evolve". Lets use another more general term: Change. It's a constant and it's unavoidable. As our society changes, rights and laws will change.
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I think you're stuck on the word "evolve". Lets use another more general term: Change. It's a constant and it's unavoidable. As our society changes, rights and laws will change.
Rights however, never change....just the level of oppression you liberals force upon people...

we call that fascism....and call you fascists...
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Word of caution... agreeing with owebo is probably something you should rethink. Rights absolutely change. They are also created and destroyed.

Some say "natural rights" cannot be created or destroyed but that can of worms will be up for debate until the end of time. The rights we are discussing here are legal rights. Today it is legal to bear arms. If we amended the constitution tomorrow that legal right could be removed, destroyed. Simple (just like owebo!).
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as far as the answer to the OPs question.

our nation was founded on the only way possible to get your rights back. we didnt vote our country into existence. our rights will continue to be eroded by people who do not understand freedom. The British took, and took, and took until the people got enough.

at some point violence will have to be used again to set things right. I hope that day is long after I am gone from this earth.
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Originally Posted by Dr Bee View Post
Word of caution... agreeing with owebo is probably something you should rethink. Rights absolutely change. They are also created and destroyed.

Some say "natural rights" cannot be created or destroyed but that can of worms will be up for debate until the end of time. The rights we are discussing here are legal rights. Today it is legal to bear arms. If we amended the constitution tomorrow that legal right could be removed, destroyed. Simple (just like owebo!).
Rights however, never change. Just the level of oppression you fascist liberals force upon people...
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Voting booth is an excellent place to start. Keep electing ***** hat wearing liberals and you get what you ask for.
President Trump needs to round up the Seditionists in the Democrat and Republican Party and ship them to Gitmo.
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I think you're stuck on the word "evolve". Lets use another more general term: Change. It's a constant and it's unavoidable. As our society changes, rights and laws will change.
Change is fine. Nature changes seasons, climates, terrain, etc.

Changing what a person can do or not do in their life by force is not change, or evolving. This is domination. No need to change the idea that a person can own a tool.

Let us change the laws that have since seen the results and outcomes of schools shooting.. aka gun free school zone. 1990.
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