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Old 05-16-2019, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Sifu-TZ View Post
he doesn't know the Press from social media.

don't forget, alex also needs to be able to warn us about the aliens and their 5g technology shared with global elites and other dimensions. you don't want to miss any of that news.
Heís on the public square? You heard him? I wouldnít know, Iím banned from going there to speak.
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Originally Posted by owebo View Post
I canít get to the public square. People blocked me and my speech.
No, you got kicked out of a private club on the public square.

Go open your own club and offer a better service, that is what FB and Twitter did.

You don't have a right to have your message heard in someone else's club. The internet is a public square, fakebookis just another address owned by someone else.

You could also invest in FB and with enough money force them to change their rules.
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Old 05-16-2019, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Suns_PSD View Post
You have no idea what Freedom of the Press even means.

The cool thing is that with modern technology and the internet Alex can easily spew his message of pissing on murdered 1st graders' graves to help afford all the coke he crams up his nose, between him and his baby mama beating each other up and calling 911 on each while in a drunken stupor.

I love you self anointed superior intellectuals. You can't help to show your true colors the moment you open your mouths. Just admit it, you APPROVE of dissenting voices being censored.

Oh wait, you just did.
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Originally Posted by 63 340HP View Post
Voice Over Internet Protocol, what Messenger, Instagram, and Snapchat use (all FB products) where the corporation is allowed to monitor and censure the users private conversation due to "liberal (fascist)" terms of use.
VoIP is a PHONE service. I have it at home over my cable internet provider. It's also a function of the tools you mentioned. But they are not unique or the only methods for doing it.
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Originally Posted by owebo View Post
I will try....how do I get to the several billion people on FB and Twitter?
Tell them to download it.
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Originally Posted by 63 340HP View Post
Voice Over Internet Protocol, what Messenger, Instagram, and Snapchat use (all FB products) where the corporation is allowed to monitor and censure the users private conversation due to "liberal (fascist)" terms of use.

Wrong, wrong and wrong, they use TCP and UDP.
Snapchat specifically uses udp port 443, I blocked that port to disable snapchat video calling and my VOIP services still function.
You could also simply block these domains and accomplish the same thing:
feelinsonice.appspot.com
appspot.l.google.com
appspot.l.google.com
data.flurry.com


Port 5060 is used for both TCP and UDP transmissions of VoIPcommunications including phone transmissions which is actually SIP.
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Old 05-16-2019, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 63 340HP View Post
Voice Over Internet Protocol, what Messenger, Instagram, and Snapchat use (all FB products) where the corporation is allowed to monitor and censure the users private conversation due to "liberal (fascist)" terms of use.

At this point, I'm not sure you know what VoIP is and the associated protocols but the above is most certainly not accurate. I can disable IP 5060, ALG and VoIP altogether then open 443 and snapchat works.
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Originally Posted by shor0814 View Post
No, you got kicked out of a private club on the public square.

Go open your own club and offer a better service, that is what FB and Twitter did.

You don't have a right to have your message heard in someone else's club. The internet is a public square, fakebookis just another address owned by someone else.

You could also invest in FB and with enough money force them to change their rules.

Pretty much this ^^^
FB and Twitter are but one of many areas of the "Public Square". The "Public Square" is where you make it, for ppl not using FB, it aint the public square
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Originally Posted by Mcrider View Post
I love you self anointed superior intellectuals. You can't help to show your true colors the moment you open your mouths. Just admit it, you APPROVE of dissenting voices being censored.

Oh wait, you just did.
Give it a rest, as I've stated earlier, I guarantee if the situation was reversed and FB was squashing Liberal voices, you'd be cheering
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When you get as big as FB, Google, or Microsoft there arises a problem. Any potential competitor will either be bought off/out or destroyed. These companies have the money, lawyers and staff to drive anyone out of business and buy political entities.
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Why don't current anti-trust laws apply to FB and Twitter?

(in the case of FB at least, for starters, Democrats passed a law that exempts them from most libel issues)
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Originally Posted by pdiddy972 View Post
VoIP is a PHONE service. I have it at home over my cable internet provider. It's also a function of the tools you mentioned. But they are not unique or the only methods for doing it.


You agree that Facebook Messenger, Instagram, or Snapchat use VOIP technology.

Should all VOIP conversations have the same 1st amendment protections as your conversations using your home PHONE service?
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Originally Posted by 63 340HP View Post
You agree that Facebook Messenger, Instagram, or Snapchat use VOIP technology.

Should all VOIP conversations have the same 1st amendment protections as your conversations using your home PHONE service?
No Lol, hell no
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Originally Posted by Millenium Z06 View Post
Wrong, wrong and wrong, they use TCP and UDP.
Snapchat specifically uses udp port 443, I blocked that port to disable snapchat video calling and my VOIP services still function.
You could also simply block these domains and accomplish the same thing:
feelinsonice.appspot.com
appspot.l.google.com
appspot.l.google.com
data.flurry.com


Port 5060 is used for both TCP and UDP transmissions of VoIPcommunications including phone transmissions which is actually SIP.
TCP and UDP routing still deliver digitized voice from VOIP technology.

Port blocking is not addressing the question. Do you think kids will set up port blocking on their smart phone?

I know some people will avoid technology at any cost, and embrace work around solutions to avoid progress, but free voice and video calls using smart phone applications has become more common than the numbers of people using a traditional communications carrier's PHONE service. People cutting the cable TV service cord, are following the people who cut the traditional phone service cord years ago, and now use internet apps for TV content and phone calls. College students prefer using these "corporate owned" phone apps that let them make the equivalent of calls for free (no contract or extra hardware required). Free call service is where society is headed, and your work around solutions will just become more complicated, until you too will have to use a free calling app.

When a person using one of these free call apps (today) contacts you on your home phone (without your knowledge), by paying to connect the call through to a non-app user, your call will be subject to corporate monitoring (again, without your knowledge). Are you wiling to give up phone service entirely to protect your privacy, or will you ignore that a corporation can be monitoring and harvesting your conversations without your knowledge?

Do you want to wait to protect your conversations from corporate monitoring, and possible censure, or do you believe the 1st and 5th amendment should be recognized with these phone service app conversations before you have no (uncensured) voice?
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Originally Posted by Millenium Z06 View Post
No Lol, hell no
Should you home phone conversations have 1st & 5th amendment protections, even when you are talking to someone using a "corporate" calling service app?
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TCP and UDP routing still deliver digitized voice from VOIP technology.

Port blocking is not addressing the question. Do you think kids will set up port blocking on their smart phone?

I know some people will avoid technology at any cost, and embrace work around solutions to avoid progress, but free voice and video calls using smart phone applications has become more common than the numbers of people using a traditional communications carrier's PHONE service. People cutting the cable TV service cord, are following the people who cut the traditional phone service cord years ago, and now use internet apps for TV content and phone calls. College students prefer using these "corporate owned" phone apps that let them make the equivalent of calls for free (no contract or extra hardware required). Free call service is where society is headed, and your work around solutions will just become more complicated, until you too will have to use a free calling app.

When a person using one of these free call apps (today) contacts you on your home phone (without your knowledge), by paying to connect the call through to a non-app user, your call will be subject to corporate monitoring (again, without your knowledge). Are you wiling to give up phone service entirely to protect your privacy, or will you ignore that a corporation can be monitoring and harvesting your conversations without your knowledge?

Do you want to wait to protect your conversations from corporate monitoring, and possible censure, or do you believe the 1st and 5th amendment should be recognized with these phone service app conversations before you have no (uncensured) voice?

They deliver it, they are not it. You asked if those apps use VoIP protocols and the answer is NO.
Nothing else you're speaking of is relevant to FB or SM
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Should you home phone conversations have 1st & 5th amendment protections, even when you are talking to someone using a "corporate" calling service app?
What does that have to do with FB or SM?
Youre aware that regardless of how a phone call is transmitted, its still a phone call and subject to existing protections right?

What you're wanting is to reclassify what is a phone call or what snapchat and the like are, still not germane to the topic
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Originally Posted by 63 340HP View Post
TCP and UDP routing still deliver digitized voice from VOIP technology.

Port blocking is not addressing the question. Do you think kids will set up port blocking on their smart phone?

I know some people will avoid technology at any cost, and embrace work around solutions to avoid progress, but free voice and video calls using smart phone applications has become more common than the numbers of people using a traditional communications carrier's PHONE service. People cutting the cable TV service cord, are following the people who cut the traditional phone service cord years ago, and now use internet apps for TV content and phone calls. College students prefer using these "corporate owned" phone apps that let them make the equivalent of calls for free (no contract or extra hardware required). Free call service is where society is headed, and your work around solutions will just become more complicated, until you too will have to use a free calling app.

When a person using one of these free call apps (today) contacts you on your home phone (without your knowledge), by paying to connect the call through to a non-app user, your call will be subject to corporate monitoring (again, without your knowledge). Are you wiling to give up phone service entirely to protect your privacy, or will you ignore that a corporation can be monitoring and harvesting your conversations without your knowledge?

Do you want to wait to protect your conversations from corporate monitoring, and possible censure, or do you believe the 1st and 5th amendment should be recognized with these phone service app conversations before you have no (uncensured) voice?

Port blocking isnt the point, its only relevance was proving to you that snapchat is using VoIP protocols.
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Originally Posted by Millenium Z06 View Post
Pretty much this ^^^
FB and Twitter are but one of many areas of the "Public Square". The "Public Square" is where you make it, for ppl not using FB, it aint the public square
Wow....such worthless ******* brilliance...
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Originally Posted by Millenium Z06 View Post
What does that have to do with FB or SM?
Youre aware that regardless of how a phone call is transmitted, its still a phone call and subject to existing protections right?

What you're wanting is to reclassify what is a phone call or what snapchat and the like are, still not germane to the topic
Facebook is also Messenger, Instagram, and Snapchat, just like Skype is Microsoft, and if a user of those apps pays to have the conversation using the app ported to your home phone number your conversation has no existing protections due to the app user's TOS with the corporation (and currently the corporate app monitoring of your conversation is legal).
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