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Old 05-16-2019, 10:55 AM
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Prior prior to his election, candidate Trump talked about American workers and focusing on jobs here. I liked that and had some thought that maybe he might improve focus on buying American while transitioning to more modern manufacturing posture. But that was mostly talk. He has focused on being divisive and solidifying his base. He then sold a “tax cut” designed to benefit his rich friends and the middle class got little. P. Obama failed to challenge us to take charge of our own economy by returning to domestic products as a preference and challenging business to show concern for workers. Trump did that with Carrier but his follow up after the photo op sucked dunno his need to pander all over the place and his ADD. The problem with Trump is not that he is not a politician but that he is the ultimate politician - saying whatever he needs to say to whomever in the moment. Since he believes in nothing, changing positions is easy and people accept it more readily. And, as many of you demonstrate- you can see in him any person that you want. Workingman’s champion, evangelical, God’s anointed... He’s happy to be whatever you want

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People like Brunella will never admit to the good things Trump does...
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Old 05-16-2019, 11:02 AM
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consider the following: trump, accomplished and worldly businessman gets embarrassed at white house correspondents dinner in 2011. he gets annoyed by that, looks hard at economy, current govt, president, and wants to make a real difference. he enlists some true patriots to combat business as usual. the dumb **** make a play to hang him, but folks on his side notify him. he plays it straight, wins, and teams up with patriots to keep feeding rope until they have enough to start earnestly cleaning house. mueller was intentionally named and Rosenstein was kept to fight the good fight. once their jobs are done, barr comes in to play bounty hunter, Rosenstein now able to be state witness, perhaps jeff sessions too.

is it possible there is a civil war to take back government with zero shots fired......discuss
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Old 05-16-2019, 11:08 AM
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He then sold a “tax cut” designed to benefit his rich friends and the middle class got little.
There is so much bullshit in your post but I focused on this because it is PROVABLY wrong.

(even my own Left Wing State of Oregon says you're full of ****).

Try again.....
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Old 05-16-2019, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Brunello View Post
Everyday, Trump shows you all what he is all about. He changes his mind, mid-thought basedbonnthenlast personnhebtalks to. He didn’t even expect to win and had plans for a Trump news network ready to go if he lost. If you’re being honest, leading up to the election, most of you didn’t believe it either. It was a long shot but he did play his hand about as well as a person could. As a wedge driving MF, he may not have an equal. Now, does he have master plan. Yes, to get re-elected. That’s it. That’s all he cares about because his ego is too weak. Yes, weak. Losing a second term would be a serious narcissistic injury. He can’t handle any appearance of weakness because it exposes his own massive insecurity. Where’s the proof you say? Watch him. I’m Smart. I have a great brain, I’m rich. The biggest. The best. No one in history... if he is so great, why is he trying so hard to convince himself. Will he forget about his gold-guilded apartment or the Ukrainian hostage that stands behind him a lot? He has a plan but it doesn’t involve even the jokers here well, except how you all can serve his ego defenses. His forethought is about as detailed as his biblical knowledge. Behind those dark suits is a rotund, pasty douche that most of us would run from if he were our next door neighbor. He is smart enough to realize that there are willing to be ruled in exchange for a few punches at their perceived competitors.
That one line proves to me how little you know about business. People in the business world often do this, its called advertising. There are very specific high ends clients who WANT to do business with the biggest/best/smartest people in the room. There is ample room for folks to advertise who they are, BUT when the rubber hits the road, you have to perform. Are they the biggest/best/smartest, likely no. Once you have secured the contract, those adjectives go away and you perform. No one will care if you are the best, just that you performed well and tried your best. Its subjective anyway. He is good at getting his name out there. How has the performance been thus far? Take into account the attacks for two years unlike any other endured and answer honestly, again.

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Prior prior to his election, candidate Trump talked about American workers and focusing on jobs here. I liked that and had some thought that maybe he might improve focus on buying American while transitioning to more modern manufacturing posture. But that was mostly talk. He has focused on being divisive and solidifying his base. He then sold a “tax cut” designed to benefit his rich friends and the middle class got little. P. Obama failed to challenge us to take charge of our own economy by returning to domestic products as a preference and challenging business to show concern for workers. Trump did that with Carrier but his follow up after the photo op sucked dunno his need to pander all over the place and his ADD. The problem with Trump is not that he is not a politician but that he is the ultimate politician - saying whatever he needs to say to whomever in the moment. Since he believes in nothing, changing positions is easy and people accept it more readily. And, as many of you demonstrate- you can see in him any person that you want. Workingman’s champion, evangelical, God’s anointed... He’s happy to be whatever you want
FYI, I employ middle class folks. when the new tax tables hit last year, I had my business accountant run a few scenarios based upon real numbers of my employees. They sohwed that year over year, based upon the same earning and deductions, my employees would see, ON AVERAGE, eighty bucks per week more. I then showed them to the employees and asked if they wanted to change their tax withholdings to keep getting the large refund, or get it weekly. EVERY one chose to get it weekly. They then complained this year about not getting refunds as large as they used to and how they got screwed by the trump tax cuts. We then discussed how they got 80 bucks more a week to cure their amnesia. Guess what? a whopping ONE employee changed his tax tables for 2019.
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Is that all you got? Hmmm... well, if you despise this president then you are really just another polarized TDS victim. Your Obama gave us DACA and admitted it was beyond the scope of his authority... what kind of pig does that?

I know.. its a socialist progressive that shows the working America tax payer what kind of socialist agenda he thought was a good idea. That means we, including you, gets to support Obama's sponsored socialism.

I guess you like pigs with lipstick around their mouths.
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Old 05-17-2019, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Brunello View Post
Prior prior to his election, candidate Trump talked about American workers and focusing on jobs here. I liked that and had some thought that maybe he might improve focus on buying American while transitioning to more modern manufacturing posture. But that was mostly talk. He has focused on being divisive and solidifying his base. He then sold a “tax cut” designed to benefit his rich friends and the middle class got little. P. Obama failed to challenge us to take charge of our own economy by returning to domestic products as a preference and challenging business to show concern for workers. Trump did that with Carrier but his follow up after the photo op sucked dunno his need to pander all over the place and his ADD. The problem with Trump is not that he is not a politician but that he is the ultimate politician - saying whatever he needs to say to whomever in the moment. Since he believes in nothing, changing positions is easy and people accept it more readily. And, as many of you demonstrate- you can see in him any person that you want. Workingman’s champion, evangelical, God’s anointed... He’s happy to be whatever you want
Well at least you almost wrote one sentence of truth. You just needed to add "at everything except fking the United States"
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Old 05-17-2019, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Chemdawg99 View Post

I know that you are trying to be clever but allow me to complete your statement..."and this pig has done more for this country than the previous four pigs combined"...you can run but you can't hide, sir....you can conveniently leave out facts and context to support your narrative but that dog don't hunt round here to use your vernacular...
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Old 05-17-2019, 07:30 AM
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I believe that TRUMP has had his eye on the WH for 30 years. If you go back and look at some of his talk show appearances; Letterman, Oprah, etc, he talked about thinks like how we were getting killed on trade and so forth. He was very popular back then because it seemed as though despite his wealth he leaned left. Letterman asked him if he had any political aspirations and he would shrug it off with a comment that he hoped other people would step up and do it. Letterman even teased him though with "if you want to do something right you have to do it yourself", to which TRUMP agreed. Anyway, the seed has always been there or so it seems.

He probably did enjoy his previous life and didn't want to really step into the fray, however looking around at what was going on he might have felt as though it was his calling. Not getting any younger maybe it was even his redemption? While he did flirt with it momentarily in 2012 it was short lived. Before that it looked like he wanted a go at the other side of the aisle.

I do think that what finally drove him off of the cliff was not necessarily the WH correspondents dinner - although that may have played a role - but i think he was approached and recruited secretly by true patriots in the upper echelons of the military. This could be Generals, Admirals, etc. People who were horrified at what they have seen over the past decade or two in our foreign policy, moreover the stuff that is "hidden" from everyday Americans, things we have heard about that are shocking and absolutely evil. This combined with the beating our economy has taken over several decades and the trade deals, etc.

So yes, i do think there was a plan, unfortunately some of the good guys were taken out in collateral damage as the other side went after them with everything they could. Hopefully in the end justice will prevail and the good guys win, as God would have intended it too. It was in my belief perhaps some divine intervention that allowed TRUMP into office to begin with. Let's not screw this up....
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Originally Posted by z edge View Post
I believe that TRUMP has had his eye on the WH for 30 years. If you go back and look at some of his talk show appearances; Letterman, Oprah, etc, he talked about thinks like how we were getting killed on trade and so forth. He was very popular back then because it seemed as though despite his wealth he leaned left. Letterman asked him if he had any political aspirations and he would shrug it off with a comment that he hoped other people would step up and do it. Letterman even teased him though with "if you want to do something right you have to do it yourself", to which TRUMP agreed. Anyway, the seed has always been there or so it seems.

He probably did enjoy his previous life and didn't want to really step into the fray, however looking around at what was going on he might have felt as though it was his calling. Not getting any younger maybe it was even his redemption? While he did flirt with it momentarily in 2012 it was short lived. Before that it looked like he wanted a go at the other side of the aisle.

I do think that what finally drove him off of the cliff was not necessarily the WH correspondents dinner - although that may have played a role - but i think he was approached and recruited secretly by true patriots in the upper echelons of the military. This could be Generals, Admirals, etc. People who were horrified at what they have seen over the past decade or two in our foreign policy, moreover the stuff that is "hidden" from everyday Americans, things we have heard about that are shocking and absolutely evil. This combined with the beating our economy has taken over several decades and the trade deals, etc.

So yes, i do think there was a plan, unfortunately some of the good guys were taken out in collateral damage as the other side went after them with everything they could. Hopefully in the end justice will prevail and the good guys win, as God would have intended it too. It was in my belief perhaps some divine intervention that allowed TRUMP into office to begin with. Let's not screw this up....

Well stated, and interesting perspective....
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