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Old 06-09-2019, 06:34 AM
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This news needs to be spread far and wide. Hopefully others will stand up and sue people that have accused them of false racism.

It has been constant with Trump. Maybe in 6 years when he is a private citizen again he can sue some of these idiots into oblivion.
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Oh-oh! Oberlin College’s insurance company says their policy doesn’t cover the huge verdict against it

By Thomas Lifson
See also: Catering to the PC mob is going to cost Oberlin College big bucks

The insurer that covers Oberlin College for liability, Lexington Insurance Company, filed documents with court last month indicating that its umbrella liability policy would not cover costs of any judgment for the plaintiffs. That means that if, after the appeals process has run its course, the plaintiffs move to collect the $11 million a jury just awarded them (plus whatever punitive damages – up to $22 more – are awarded next week), Lexington likely won’t pay and Oberlin would have to sue for reimbursement.



We know this thanks to the research of the Legal Insurrection Foundation, which looked at the court filings, and LI’s founder, William A. Jacobson who explains them. His article, “EXCLUSIVE: Oberlin College insurer likely to reject coverage for Gibson Bakery $11 million verdict,” presents the legal reasoning, and provides excerpts from the court filings of Lexington, providing links to the original.
The likelihood of refusal to cover the verdict was revealed in a May 1, 2019, Motion to Intervene(pdf.)(full embed at bottom of post) filed by Lexington Insurance Company.

The purpose of the motion, according to Lexington, was “for the limited purpose of submitting interrogatories to the jury in order to determine facts at issue in this action that would impact coverage under its policy.”
His examination of the documents reveals the arguments Lexington was looking to support that its policies do not cover the circumstances of the case. While the legally-defined purpose of the filings was narrow, Lexington showed us its argument against paying off.

It must be stipulated that the scenario portrayed above may not play out. There are many twists and turns ahead, and many legal bills yet to be generated.

Professor Jacobson cautions:
There will be post-trial motions to set aside the jury verdict and/or reduce the dollar amounts, and then appeals. So while the Gibson family won a major victory, it is not over.
Whatever the legal outcome, Oberlin has a mess on its hands and its trustees must begin planning for possible need to cough up millions of dollars. It is also in line for more big legal bills at a time of cutbacks. The administrators they hired have screwed up royally by advancing political correctness and caving in to the student SJWs, and the institutional damage is well beyond the pending financial contingency.


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Oh-oh! Oberlin College’s insurance company says their policy doesn’t cover the huge verdict against it

By Thomas Lifson
See also: Catering to the PC mob is going to cost Oberlin College big bucks

The insurer that covers Oberlin College for liability, Lexington Insurance Company, filed documents with court last month indicating that its umbrella liability policy would not cover costs of any judgment for the plaintiffs. That means that if, after the appeals process has run its course, the plaintiffs move to collect the $11 million a jury just awarded them (plus whatever punitive damages – up to $22 more – are awarded next week), Lexington likely won’t pay and Oberlin would have to sue for reimbursement.
Whatever the legal outcome, Oberlin has a mess on its hands and its trustees must begin planning for possible need to cough up millions of dollars. It is also in line for more big legal bills at a time of cutbacks. The administrators they hired have screwed up royally by advancing political correctness and caving in to the student SJWs, and the institutional damage is well beyond the pending financial contingency.

Icing on the cake.

I wonder why this hasn't been covered by the MSM?
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Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post

Oh-oh! Oberlin College’s insurance company says their policy doesn’t cover the huge verdict against it

By Thomas Lifson
See also: Catering to the PC mob is going to cost Oberlin College big bucks

The insurer that covers Oberlin College for liability, Lexington Insurance Company, filed documents with court last month indicating that its umbrella liability policy would not cover costs of any judgment for the plaintiffs. That means that if, after the appeals process has run its course, the plaintiffs move to collect the $11 million a jury just awarded them (plus whatever punitive damages – up to $22 more – are awarded next week), Lexington likely won’t pay and Oberlin would have to sue for reimbursement.



We know this thanks to the research of the Legal Insurrection Foundation, which looked at the court filings, and LI’s founder, William A. Jacobson who explains them. His article, “EXCLUSIVE: Oberlin College insurer likely to reject coverage for Gibson Bakery $11 million verdict,” presents the legal reasoning, and provides excerpts from the court filings of Lexington, providing links to the original.
The likelihood of refusal to cover the verdict was revealed in a May 1, 2019, Motion to Intervene(pdf.)(full embed at bottom of post) filed by Lexington Insurance Company.

The purpose of the motion, according to Lexington, was “for the limited purpose of submitting interrogatories to the jury in order to determine facts at issue in this action that would impact coverage under its policy.”
His examination of the documents reveals the arguments Lexington was looking to support that its policies do not cover the circumstances of the case. While the legally-defined purpose of the filings was narrow, Lexington showed us its argument against paying off.

It must be stipulated that the scenario portrayed above may not play out. There are many twists and turns ahead, and many legal bills yet to be generated.

Professor Jacobson cautions:
There will be post-trial motions to set aside the jury verdict and/or reduce the dollar amounts, and then appeals. So while the Gibson family won a major victory, it is not over.
Whatever the legal outcome, Oberlin has a mess on its hands and its trustees must begin planning for possible need to cough up millions of dollars. It is also in line for more big legal bills at a time of cutbacks. The administrators they hired have screwed up royally by advancing political correctness and caving in to the student SJWs, and the institutional damage is well beyond the pending financial contingency.

Thanks Gumpy for that extra information. I still believe that Oberlin College will just pay it to make it go away ASAP.
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Good. Jam it up their liberal buttocks.
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Perhaps having to pony up $30M+ out of endowments and they’ll learn a lesson.

Nah.
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The on campus reaction........







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They protested cause the bakery wouldn’t allow black kids to steal from them? Can’t make this **** up lol
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Originally Posted by Builderrick View Post
Thanks Gumpy for that extra information. I still believe that Oberlin College will just pay it to make it go away ASAP.

I recommend the Negroes be obligated to pay through a robust program of robbery & mayhem....
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Judge DENIES motion for mistrial !

http://www.chroniclet.com/Local-News...ded(copy).html
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Good. Keep this in the public eye.
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They really didn't think this through.
If Oberlin College thought this was racist then with the perps being black the petty theft and assaults would be considered racial qualities
ie stealing and assault are a race quality.
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Very good analysis from the editor of the Legal Insurrection in today's WSJ. Besides the damages, the Dean of Students needs to get tossed out, along with a few others.


Oberlin Pays for Smearing the Town Grocer

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The college alleged student shoplifters were victims of racial profiling, but a jury wasn’t buying it.

Ohio’s Oberlin College has achieved national notoriety for the zeal of its progressive activism. According to a 2016 story in the New Yorker, students have bombarded administrators with endless demands for accommodation, including abolishing midterms, banning grades below C, the addition of “trigger warnings” to classic literature and even an $8.20 hourly wage for engaging in activism. It isn’t surprising in this light that a hate-crime hoax, spurred by a shoplifting incident at a nearby business, was enough to put students in attack mode.

On Nov. 9, 2016, an African-American male Oberlin student attempted to buy wine from Gibson’s Food Mart and Bakery using a fake ID. Allyn D. Gibson, a grandson of the shop’s owner, refused to sell the underage customer alcohol, then noticed the student had two bottles of wine concealed under his shirt.

As Mr. Gibson called the police the student fled, dropping the bottles on the floor. A scuffle ensued when Mr. Gibson pursued him. Two African-American female Oberlin students, apparently accomplices of the suspect, joined in the physical confrontation. When police arrived on the scene, the three were beating Mr. Gibson on the ground.

None of these facts were ever in dispute, even among the three suspects, who all pleaded guilty to an array of charges. The first suspect swore in his plea statement that Mr. Gibson “was within his legal rights” to detain him, and that he did not believe Gibson’s actions were racially motivated.

On a different campus on a different day, it is unlikely a simple shoplifting case would have gained much attention. But the incident occurred the day after Donald Trump was elected president, in the wake of which Oberlin students appeared ready to build on the school’s history of left-wing activism to exercise their angst. Thus this otherwise unexciting crime became their cause célèbre.

Alleging these suspects were actually victims of racial profiling, students launched a campaign to destroy Gibson’s, a fifth-generation family business that had served the Oberlin community for more than 130 years. They organized protests, distributed leaflets accusing the Gibson family of racism, and worked with school administrators to impose financial sanctions on the bakery. Demonstrations became so aggressive that police say they considered calling the riot squad to restore order.

Oberlin administrators agreed to boycott Gibson’s, which had long held catering contracts with the college’s dining service, and they allowed students to skip class to participate in protests. The Gibsons alleged that the administrators guided student-government leaders in promoting a resolution to condemn the bakery and Gibson family. Oberlin’s dean of students, Meredith Raimondo, handed out a flier accusing Gibson’s of having a “long account of racial profiling and discrimination.”

The Gibson family claims administrators told them they’d reinstate the catering contract if they dropped charges against the three shoplifting students and promised to contact the school, not police, if other students stole from their store in the future. The family refused and instead sued Oberlin and Ms. Raimondo, seeking $12.8 million at trial on numerous counts including libel, interference with business contracts and intentional infliction of emotional distress.

As a result of the protests, boycotts and lawsuits, the Gibson family business, which had survived two world wars and the Great Depression, suffered greatly. Its owners took no salary for two years, and nearly all the staff had to be let go. In their closing arguments, Mr. Gibson’s lawyers lamented that without a ruling in their favor, the beloved Oberlin bakery could be forced to close.

On June 7 a jury awarded Gibson’s Food Mart and Bakery, as well as the Gibson family, $11 million in compensatory damages. After punitive damages are decided this week, Oberlin College could owe the Gibsons an additional $22 million.

This historic case received scant media attention during the trial. My publication, Legal Insurrection, was the only national outlet to be present for the entire trial, because we felt Gibson Bros. v. Oberlin College was emblematic of tensions in American culture, particularly the “town vs. gown” divide that pits activist colleges against the places that host them.

In this case, Oberlin students and administrators appeared happy to smear a family-run institution in pursuit of a “social justice” agenda. Ignoring the facts, they attempted to destroy a business without concern for the damage they were inflicting on a family and workers in their own community.

Sadly, many victims of similar smear campaigns don’t persevere like the Gibsons did. For individuals and businesses facing progressive political mobs, succumbing to the bullying might seem the easiest way out, even when the accusations are false. But that could result in loss of livelihoods, safety and peace.

The Gibson family showed that, using the legal system, it is possible to fight back and win. The verdict in Gibson Bros. v. Oberlin confirms that colleges and universities aren’t immune from accountability for participating in aggressive activism among their students, especially when that activism is built on lies and smears.

For Oberlin, it didn’t have to end this way. At the height of the controversy, the Gibson family says it asked the school to send a letter to students reiterating what had already become clear: The bakery didn’t engage in racial profiling. Administrators refused. Had the college agreed to refute the baseless claims of racism, it is unlikely that the Gibson family would have pursued the matter in court.

The verdict is in, and it regards more than money. The jury held accountable an unhinged progressive activist college that lost concern for the lives of working people in its community.

Mr. Jacobson is a professor at Cornell Law School and president of Legal Insurrection Foundation.



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The on campus reaction........







that is a lot of youngins,
and beta males
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Great news. **** them.
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Originally Posted by wbvette View Post
They protested cause the bakery wouldn’t allow black kids to steal from them? Can’t make this **** up lol

Well, it is a large part of their "culture". CD should be along shortly to explain.
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Great news. **** them.
I'm 100% with you. The ONLY way this bullshit trend will change in the US is by hitting the offenders in the pocketbook hard! I hope this camp of liberal indoctrination goes ****-up.
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It may go to $ 33 MILLION $

However, 33 million is nothing to liberal Oberlin College. I think Oberlin College won't even appeal. They will want this all to go away as soon as possible.

Sure would be nice if this got NATIONAL exposure. Most likely won't as the liberal media will help cover for the liberal school and their B.S.
What is the amount of their endowment fund?

BTW: The attorneys in cases like this often get 1/2. It's tax free for the plaintiffs, the attorneys pay normal income tax.

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They protested cause the bakery wouldn’t allow black kids to steal from them? Can’t make this **** up lol

Sounds like the old "We're giving them room to destroy, if that is what they want" mentality.

******* need their "5-finger Discount" piggies severed. All of them.
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