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AP FACT CHECK: Trump and the credit and blame game



HOPE YEN, SETH BORENSTEIN and CALVIN WOODWARD
Associated PressJune 8, 2019
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In this June 6, 2019, photo, President Donald Trump speaks before he departs Shannon Airport in Shannon, Ireland. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)
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WASHINGTON (AP) The apportioning of credit and blame went awry in President Donald Trump's remarks over the past week.

He hailed pristine air quality that isn't, placed responsibility on Mexico for the entire U.S. drug problem and told Puerto Ricans they should love him because he got them hurricane aid that he's actually been complaining about for months.

In the Democratic presidential campaign, meantime, Trump was accused of breaking a gun-control promise that in reality he kept.

A week in review:

DISASTER AID

TRUMP, on signing a relief bill for multiple U.S. disasters: "Puerto Rico should love President Trump. Without me, they would have been shut out!" tweet Thursday.

THE FACTS: That's not likely.

The $19.1 billion disaster aid bill, passed by the House on Monday and signed into law by Trump on Thursday, ordinarily would have been approved by Congress months ago. But Trump injected himself into the debate, demanding that money for hurricane-rebuilding efforts that was sought by Puerto Rico's elected officials, Republicans and Democrats both, be kept out.

Trump frequently inflated the amount of aid that Puerto Rico had obtained in previous bills and feuded with the island's Democratic officials.

Congressional Democrats held firm in demanding that Puerto Rico, a territory whose 3 million people are U.S. citizens, be helped by the measure. The legislation ultimately included more money for Puerto Rico, about $1.4 billion, than Democrats originally sought.

The relief measure delivers money to states in the South suffering from last fall's hurricanes, Midwestern states deluged with springtime floods and fire-ravaged rural California, among other disasters.

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NATO

TRUMP: "We were paying so much. I think we were really paying close to 100% of NATO. So we were paying to protect all of these European nations. And it's just not fair." interview Thursday with Fox News.

THE FACTS: It's not true that the U.S. was paying "close to 100%" of the price of protecting Europe.

NATO does have a shared budget to which each member makes contributions based on the size of its economy. The United States, with the biggest economy, pays the biggest share, about 22%.

Four European members Germany, France, Britain and Italy combined pay nearly 44% of the total. The money, about $3 billion, runs NATO's headquarters and covers certain other civilian and military costs.

Defending Europe involves far more than that fund. The primary cost of doing so would come from each member country's military budget, as the alliance operates under a mutual defense treaty.

The U.S. is the largest military spender but others in the alliance obviously have armed forces, too. The notion that almost all costs would fall to the U.S. is false.

In fact, NATO's Article 5, calling for allies to act if one is attacked, has only been invoked once, and it was on behalf of the U.S., after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

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DRUGS

TRUMP: "Look, I'm dealing with Mexico right now. They send in $500 billion worth of drugs, they kill 100,000 people, they ruin a million families every year if you look at that. That's really an invasion without the guns. ... 100,000 people are killed, dead every year, from what comes through our southern border. They shouldn't be allowing people to come through their country from Central, from Honduras and Guatemala, El Salvador." Fox News interview Thursday.

THE FACTS: Trump is inflating the death toll from drug overdoses more than 70,200 in 2017 and wrongly blaming all the known deaths on Mexico. Tens of thousands of those deaths have nothing to do with Mexico or Central America. They are from legally made prescription opioids, fentanyl laboratories in China or other sources of international drug smuggling and illicit manufacturing in the U.S. More than 17,000 of the deaths in 2017, for example, were from prescription opioids alone.

Mexico is indeed a significant conduit in the drug trade it's a leading source of heroin, for example but it is hardly the only one.

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CLIMATE CHANGE

TRUMP, asked if he believes in climate change: "I believe that there's a change in weather, and I think it changes both ways." interview with Piers Morgan that broadcast Tuesday.

THE FACTS: Trump is once again conflating weather and climate, suggesting that global warming can't be happening if it gets cold outside. But weather is like mood, which changes daily. Climate is like personality, which is long term.



The data show Trump also is wrong in that there is a clear one-way warming trend. Earth is considerably warmer than it was 30 years ago and especially 100 years ago.

So far in this decade, there have been 301,292 daily heat records set in the contiguous United States, compared with only 141,892 daily cold records set, according to retired Weather Channel meteorologist Guy Walton's analysis of government temperature records. That's more than two heat records broken for every cold record, a ratio that is the largest of any decade since these types of records started in the 1920s.

According to Walton's analysis, each decade since the 1970s has had a higher hot record-to-cold record ratio than the decade before it.

And that's just the extreme weather. When it comes to global average temperature, April was the 412th consecutive warmer month than the 20th century average, according to records kept by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

The last five years 2014 to 2018 have been the five hottest years on record globally, according to those records. Nine of the 10 hottest years on record have been in the past 15 years with records going back to 1880.

The White House in November produced the National Climate Assessment by scientists from 13 Trump administration agencies and outside scientists. "Climate change is transforming where and how we live and presents growing challenges to human health and quality of life, the economy, and the natural systems that support us," the report said.

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TRUMP: "We have the cleanest air in the world in the United States, and it's gotten better since I'm president. We have the cleanest water. It's crystal clean and I always say I want crystal clean water and air. ... We're setting records environmentally." remarks Wednesday with Ireland's Prime Minister Leo Varadkar.

THE FACTS: The U.S. does not have the cleanest air, and it hasn't gotten better under the Trump administration.

U.S. drinking water is among the best by one leading measure.

Trump's own Environmental Protection Agency data show that in 2017, among 35 major U.S. cities, there were 729 cases of "unhealthy days for ozone and fine particle pollution." That's up 22% from 2014 and the worst year since 2012.

The Obama administration, in fact, set records for the fewest air polluted days, in 2016. In 2017, after Trump took office, the number of bad air days per metropolitan area went up 20%.

The State of Global Air 2019 report by the Health Effects Institute rated the U.S. as having the eighth cleanest air for particle pollution which kills 85,000 Americans each year behind Canada, Scandinavian countries and others.

The U.S. ranks poorly on smog pollution, which kills 24,000 Americans per year. On a scale from the cleanest to the dirtiest, the U.S. is at 123 out of 195 countries measured.

On water, Yale University's global Environmental Performance Index finds 10 countries tied for the cleanest drinking water, the U.S. among them. On environmental quality overall, the U.S. was 27th, behind a variety of European countries, Canada, Japan, Australia and more. Switzerland was No. 1.





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Any trump defense? The man may have been a good president if not for the lying. Put that is how he got where he is.
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Originally Posted by Asdfgh View Post
Any trump defense? The man may have been a good president if not for the lying. Put that is how he got where he is.
What you are calling "Lies" are at worst embellishments and/or exaggerations. Not sure exactly what the nature of POTUS's tiff is with Puerto Rico, but there's clearly an issue there. One thing for sure, the MSM will never accurately characterize it...

NATO? He's absolutely right. We have been underwriting way more of the cost of these countries' defense since the Cold War, the Russians and Chinese are now beginning to flex their muscles, and it's time for THEM to start stepping up and paying their own freight instead of us footing the bill while their citizens work 30-hour weeks and take summer-long vacations every year...

Air and water quality? You clearly weren't around in the early 1970's. It has improved drastically and he doesn't see the need for unnecessarily throwing tax money that we don't have at the "problem"...

And if you don't think there's a problem with drugs coming up into our country across the Mexican border your head is stuck so far up your *** that you clearly cannot see out...

Why are you liberals so terrified of us having a president that actually FIXES PROBLEMS...???
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Originally Posted by Asdfgh View Post
Any trump defense? The man may have been a good president if not for the lying. Put that is how he got where he is.
Defense of what? The man can't say it's a good morning but someone will contest it and call it a lie. Pathetic if you ask me.
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Originally Posted by birdsmith View Post
What you are calling "Lies" are at worst embellishments and/or exaggerations. Not sure exactly what the nature of POTUS's tiff is with Puerto Rico, but there's clearly an issue there. One thing for sure, the MSM will never accurately characterize it...

NATO? He's absolutely right. We have been underwriting way more of the cost of these countries' defense since the Cold War, the Russians and Chinese are now beginning to flex their muscles, and it's time for THEM to start stepping up and paying their own freight instead of us footing the bill while their citizens work 30-hour weeks and take summer-long vacations every year...

Air and water quality? You clearly weren't around in the early 1970's. It has improved drastically and he doesn't see the need for unnecessarily throwing tax money that we don't have at the "problem"...

And if you don't think there's a problem with drugs coming up into our country across the Mexican border your head is stuck so far up your *** that you clearly cannot see out...

Why are you liberals so terrified of us having a president that actually FIXES PROBLEMS...???
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All politicians lie, and Trump is a typical politician. The issue with Trumps lies and exaggerations is often how fantastically unnecessary they are. Example, calling someone by the wrong name, getting corrected (and laughed at) by your daughter, and then telling another, more ridiculous lie to cover the obvious mistake (instead of simply saying "I made a mistake"). His lies are often childish and embarrassing.
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Originally Posted by Dr Bee View Post
All politicians lie, and Trump is a typical politician. The issue with Trumps lies and exaggerations is often how fantastically unnecessary they are. Example, calling someone by the wrong name, getting corrected (and laughed at) by your daughter, and then telling another, more ridiculous lie to cover the obvious mistake (instead of simply saying "I made a mistake"). His lies are often childish and embarrassing.
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Originally Posted by gs568 View Post
Best President in our country's history. Such a refreshing change from obunghole and Manchelle.
Don't know if he's the best but, he's done a fantastic job. Yes, definitely a refreshing change from the nightmare known as 44.
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Any trump defense? The man may have been a good president if not for the lying. Put that is how he got where he is.
What defense?? Talking to you people is like conversing with a brick wall. Listen noob...Just to be clear... Your in the minority here, going around starting anti-Trump threads or bashing him, and this is the wrong area to get started off on bad footing. So just be prepared to have a relentless wave of people telling you to shove it, should you continue this trend.

Your not going to change anyone's mind that is already on the Trump train....In fact, there were quite a few around here that were totally against him but, have come around because of the outstanding job he's done. The media is overwhelming anti-Trump, you have to be smart enough to get past that. We'll see in the future if you can grow a thinking brain.
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Originally Posted by Asdfgh View Post
Any trump defense? The man may have been a good president if not for the lying. Put that is how he got where he is.
Fake news. You have us confused with someone you think gives a darn what you think, we don't. Bless your heart......
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Originally Posted by Dr Bee View Post
All politicians lie, and Trump is a typical politician. The issue with Trumps lies and exaggerations is often how fantastically unnecessary they are. Example, calling someone by the wrong name, getting corrected (and laughed at) by your daughter, and then telling another, more ridiculous lie to cover the obvious mistake (instead of simply saying "I made a mistake"). His lies are often childish and embarrassing.
@ Bolded...do you realize how utterly comical you sound??? Your FIRST sentence is a LIE! Trump most assuredly is NOT a politician, HE IS A BUSINESSMAN that absolutely DESPISES politicians, which is why he repeatedly makes the inflammatory statements that he does about them...

This is why you hate him as you do...he doesn't choose his words as carefully as a slimy creep like Joe Biden or Barack Obama would, he just throws his answers out there and lets the chips fall. It's a lot easier to do that when you DO THE RIGHT THINGS FOR THE COUNTRY and don't have to go around deftly attempting to cover your tracks...
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Originally Posted by birdsmith View Post
What you are calling "Lies" are at worst embellishments and/or exaggerations. Not sure exactly what the nature of POTUS's tiff is with Puerto Rico, but there's clearly an issue there. One thing for sure, the MSM will never accurately characterize it...

NATO? He's absolutely right. We have been underwriting way more of the cost of these countries' defense since the Cold War, the Russians and Chinese are now beginning to flex their muscles, and it's time for THEM to start stepping up and paying their own freight instead of us footing the bill while their citizens work 30-hour weeks and take summer-long vacations every year...

Air and water quality? You clearly weren't around in the early 1970's. It has improved drastically and he doesn't see the need for unnecessarily throwing tax money that we don't have at the "problem"...

And if you don't think there's a problem with drugs coming up into our country across the Mexican border your head is stuck so far up your *** that you clearly cannot see out...

Why are you liberals so terrified of us having a president that actually FIXES PROBLEMS...???
Embellishments? Now that's rich.
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These left wing idiots read something on the internet and ASSume it's true without doing any fact checking of their own. The funny thing is they claim to be intellectuals..

Nothing could be farther from the truth.
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These left wing idiots read something on the internet and ASSume it's true without doing any fact checking of their own. The funny thing is they claim to be intellectuals..

Nothing could be farther from the truth.

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