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Old 06-11-2019, 09:36 AM
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Vatican Officially Rejects Idea of Gender Fluidity to Alarm of LGBT Catholics




The Vatican issued an official document Monday rejecting the idea that people can choose or change their genders and insisting on the sexual “complementarity” of men and women to make babies.


Jay Brown of the Human Rights Campaign — the largest LGBT-rights group in the United States — said the Vatican’s stance “sends a dangerous message that anybody who experiences gender diversity is somehow less worthy.”


Pope Francis has repeatedly argued the position that people cannot choose their genders. But the document represents the first attempt to put the Vatican’s position, first articulated fully by Pope Benedict XVI in a 2012 speech, into a comprehensive, official text.


The document called for a new alliance among families, schools and society to offer a “positive and prudent sexual education” in Catholic schools so children learn the “full original truth of masculinity and femininity.”


It called gender fluidity a symptom of the “confused concept of freedom” and “momentary desires” that characterize post-modern culture. It rejected terms such as “intersex” and “transgender” and said the purpose of the biological “complementarity” of the male and female sex organs was to ensure procreation.


Francis DeBernardo, head of New Ways Ministry, said such concepts are outdated, misinformed and ignore contemporary science on factors beyond visible genitalia that determine gender.


“Gender is also biologically determined by genetics, hormones and brain chemistry — things not visible at birth,” DeBernardo said in a statement. “People do not choose their gender, as the Vatican claims, they discover it through their lived experiences.”


Link - https://ktla.com/2019/06/10/vatican-...gbt-catholics/

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I think the spider finally got pissed.


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Surprised the Church got one right. and I'm catholic.
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Not to start a giant pissing match, which I'm sure this will anyway, but let's not forget that the Catholic church has been on the wrong side of science, well pretty much since the beginning.
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It rejected terms such as “intersex” and “transgender” and said the purpose of the biological “complementarity” of the male and female sex organs was to ensure procreation.
Hate to break it to the pope and all, but "intersex" isn't psychobabble. It's the definition of physical manifestations. Rare as it may be, it does happen.
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They only said that because white people aren't having kids and muslim people are.
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They only said that because white people aren't having kids and muslim people are.
And that is a very real problem.
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I bet they (the Vatican) change their minds. They just haven't been told to yet.
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Well, here's the horseshit quote that got me:


“Gender is also biologically determined by genetics, hormones and brain chemistry — things not visible at birth,” DeBernardo said in a statement. “People do not choose their gender, as the Vatican claims, they discover it through their lived experiences.”

Anyone agree?
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Originally Posted by MagRedConv View Post
Well, here's the horseshit quote that got me:


“Gender is also biologically determined by genetics, hormones and brain chemistry — things not visible at birth,” DeBernardo said in a statement. “People do not choose their gender, as the Vatican claims, they discover it through their lived experiences.”

Anyone agree?
Yep. But only because it's an absolute fact.
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Originally Posted by MagRedConv View Post
Well, here's the horseshit quote that got me:


“Gender is also biologically determined by genetics, hormones and brain chemistry — things not visible at birth,” DeBernardo said in a statement. “People do not choose their gender, as the Vatican claims, they discover it through their lived experiences.”

Anyone agree?

Something never addressed by the lib media is that a large percentage of trannies want to change back and also the suicide rate among them.
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Originally Posted by VegasJen View Post
Yep. But only because it's an absolute fact.

Absolute facts take documentation, got any?
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Absolute facts take documentation, got any?
Sure. I've posted them before, on several occasions. And every time deniers continue to dismiss or ignore the evidence I've posted. So I'm not going to bother, yet again, to post the information I've posted multiple times before.
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Something never addressed by the lib media is that a large percentage of trannies want to change back and also the suicide rate among them.
Speaking of documentation... and what constitutes this "large percentage" you cite? I would wager I know a few more "trannies" than you and I don't know any that go through the process and then want to reverse it, myself included.
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