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"FAA grants first waiver to allow commercial UAS flight over people

ParaZero announced this week that the FAA has approved a first-ever waiver allowing general contractor to fly over people using ParaZero's ASTM compliant SafeAir Phantom Parachute System.


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TEL AVIV, Israel - Drone safety systems company ParaZero Technologies Ltd announced this week that the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has approved a first-ever waiver allowing general contractor, Hensel Phelps, to fly over peopleusing ParaZero's ASTM compliant SafeAir Phantom Parachute System.

The use of UAS benefits projects by helping teams enhance safety, improve efficiency, manage and monitor schedules and communicate logistics. Hensel Phelps maintains an unwavering commitment to safety for all of their projects and this safety culture extends to their use of UAS technology. ... "

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https://www.intelligent-aerospace.co...767H7175945G4A
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Same-day delivery of light packages will soon become the norm.

It's an exciting prospect, but opens up a slew of safety, security, and privacy concerns.
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What if your mouth-breathing neighbor thinks it's taking pictures of his morbidly obese wife and shoots it down?
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on the face of it, good. faa does not need to be the owners of air.
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What if your mouth-breathing neighbor thinks it's taking pictures of his morbidly obese wife and shoots it down?
The way the law is today his *** is in big trouble on many counts depending on where he lives.
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We all know who really benefits from this, gov and LEO.. Eye in the skys
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And how long before hackers begin fcukin' with the drones and/or drones injure people/property.
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Don't like the idea, can be noisy and intrusive when you get a lot of things flying all over the place.
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And how long before hackers begin fcukin' with the drones and/or drones injure people/property.
Big Tech appears to be on a collision course with disaster. It's been interesting to watch how most of their CEO's are drawn like a magnet toward a dystopian future. They don't seem well versed about human nature...human concerns and safety don't seem to figure much in their plans at all.
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The ability to get rid of the weakest link in the delivery system is financially lucrative. Drones don't call in, take time off, or in most cases, deliver to the wrong address. A few drone related incidents are expected.

The problem with technology is soon it will put everyone out of business. People aren't helping by demanding living wages to make hamburgers.
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Originally Posted by VatorMan View Post
The ability to get rid of the weakest link in the delivery system is financially lucrative. Drones don't call in, take time off, or in most cases, deliver to the wrong address. A few drone related incidents are expected.

The problem with technology is soon it will put everyone out of business. People aren't helping by demanding living wages to make hamburgers.


Indeed, the financial incentive to implement this technology is significant. Hell, even Uber is looking into carrying people as passengers using this concept.

Uber's first passenger drone is a helicopter-plane hybrid that can carry passengers across cities at 150 mph

The idea of a sky filled with drones, however, is troubling at best. I would imagine most would be opposed to widespread implementation of it.
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And how long before hackers begin fcukin' with the drones and/or drones injure people/property.

Black Mirror on Netflix already covered this:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5709236/?ref_=ttep_ep6
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What if your mouth-breathing neighbor thinks it's taking pictures of his morbidly obese wife and shoots it down?
WHat if a Sailor in the USN standing top side POOD watch shoots one down.. Oh yeah, that already happened.
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Logistically I can't see how it can be done wide-scale without some sort of air traffic control system that tracks each drone. Also small drones may not even show up on radar.
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Logistically I can't see how it can be done wide-scale without some sort of air traffic control system that tracks each drone. Also small drones may not even show up on radar.

Nevermind small GA aircraft without radios or any other gear on board. How many J-3 Cubs will die?
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Originally Posted by 3D-Aircrew View Post
Logistically I can't see how it can be done wide-scale without some sort of air traffic control system that tracks each drone. Also small drones may not even show up on radar.
Required transponders on all drones would solve the problem of using primary radar for tracking with the available use of secondary radar.

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Originally Posted by RadarP3C View Post
Required transponders on all drones would solve the problem of using primary radar for tracking with the available use of secondary radar.


How do GA aircraft without radios or transponders onboard utilize that? Or do they have to all upgrade so drone companies can make money?
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How do GA aircraft without radios or transponders onboard utilize that? Or do they have to all upgrade so drone companies can make money?
Aircraft without radios are not allowed in controlled airspace.
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Originally Posted by RadarP3C View Post
Aircraft without radios are not allowed in controlled airspace.

99% of the airspace is not controlled. Nobody said anything about controlled airspace. These drones will blanket the country over every neighborhood out there...where GA currently thrives and lives. That's the real danger...not in controlled airspace where there are already existing laws. What happens when an Amazon drone bringing your neighbor's new BBQ flies through the side of a Piper Tri-Pacer that kills a dozen kids at a school ground when it crashes?
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Originally Posted by RandolphB View Post
99% of the airspace is not controlled. Nobody said anything about controlled airspace. These drones will blanket the country over every neighborhood out there...where GA currently thrives and lives. That's the real danger...not in controlled airspace where there are already existing laws. What happens when an Amazon drone bringing your neighbor's new BBQ flies through the side of a Piper Tri-Pacer that kills a dozen kids at a school ground when it crashes?
I gave you an answer to your question about GA aircraft not having radios. There will have to be many obstacles to be worked out before any of this can go forward. I don't have the answers to your questions about how many or how severe any accidents can be. My crystal ball is broke at this time. I'm presently an airline captain, prior military (user name), and prior defense contractor (taught AF and Army Predator RPA (drone) pilots at Edwards AFB), which is where my problem solving comes from on this issue.
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