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Old 06-12-2019, 10:38 AM
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Focus group: Trump supporters like liberal proposals but still love Trump





Some of President Trump's supporters in Sioux City, Iowa love liberal populist proposals. They just don't love the 2020 Democrats as the messengers.

Between the lines: A focus group of swing voters all of whom voted for Trump in 2016 strongly supported a student loan debt plan that would cancel up to $50,000 in student debt for people whose families make less than $100,000 per year. (That's Elizabeth Warren's proposal, though her name wasn't mentioned in the question.)

  • They also want to tax American corporations, specifically big banks, to pay for Trump's infrastructure plans.
  • This was the main takeaway from the Engagious/FPG focus group of swing voters I watched last week, which included 11 voters who supported Barack Obama and then Trump. All but one said they would re-elect Trump if it were him versus Hillary Clinton again.
Why it matters: These voters aren't familiar with the two main liberal proposals (Medicare for All and the Green New Deal), and they aren't excited by any Democrats running for president. This could give Trump an opportunity to tailor his economic message in Iowa for voters who want more focus on student loan debt and infrastructure.
  • But it also suggests that Warren's own policies are more popular with these voters than she is, given that the voters were skeptical of the entire Democratic field.
What they're saying: One woman, 49-year-old Christine R., suggested big banks in part because of the money they make from things like overdraft fees should "fix the roads and put your name on it then. You name the road 'Wells Fargo Boulevard.'" Every other respondent in the group agreed with her idea.
  • Taxing big banks was the most popular idea to pay for infrastructure, beating out an increase in the federal gas tax or borrowing money from other countries.
  • Eight of the 11 respondents said that managing student loan debt is a problem for them or someone they know.
  • "It's not right what's going on with the overwhelming student loan debt in our country," said 36-year-old Elliot H. "[Universities] are making billions and billions of dollars in keeping people in poverty upon graduating, and that just doesn't seem right."
  • They're not excited about any of the 2020 Democrats running for president, and they only really recognized Warren, Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders. "The presidency is a man's job," said 44-year-old Jamison P.
  • The economy was the issue that came up the most among this group when discussing their top concern heading into the 2020 presidential election. And although half of the respondents thought the national economy is booming, no one said they've seen an increase in their own wages or financial situation.
The bottom line: It's still early, but right now Warren or any other Democrat would face an enormous challenge winning these voters back even though there's a market for her style of populism.


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It's sad that morons are allowed to vote.
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It's sad that morons are allowed to vote.


Where do these people think companies/corporations get the money? (Hint - consumers that buy/pay for the services)
College tuition is so high because the government kicked private business out of making loans and took it over. (Hint - unlimited supply of government monies)
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Trump needs to go scorched earth and decimate .gov in his second term....leave it in flames so it takes decades for liberals to rebuild it...
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11 Voters that supported Obama then voted for Trump. Why the enormous sample (sarcasm)? Obama supporters are the dumbest humans in the United States, no matter who they voted for in 2016.
Calling people who claim to be a Obama supporters, Trump supporters, just to sensationalize the title.

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Yeah, you'd like to think that Iowa voters and voters from other "flyover" states represent the "salt of the earth", hard-working rugged individualists, with ideals that reflect some of the core principles of the American ethos. But no, roughly half of them are just as screwed up as in the big cities, full of ideas for having others pay for things, or give them things..... It's pretty depressing. (I'm not picking on Iowa - I think the same thing would apply in almost every state...)
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Yeah, you'd like to think that Iowa voters and voters from other "flyover" states represent the "salt of the earth", hard-working rugged individualists, with ideals that reflect some of the core principles of the American ethos. But no, roughly half of them are just as screwed up as in the big cities, full of ideas for having others pay for things, or give them things..... It's pretty depressing. (I'm not picking on Iowa - I think the same thing would apply in almost every state...)
Yup, I think you're spot on there. IMO this became inevitable the minute some dumbasses got together and decided taxation and representation were no longer going to be two sides of the same coin. As soon as they started letting non taxpayers vote, how could it not slowly devolve into roughly half the people voting themselves chunks of the other half's wages ?

What this country needs is for the working half to just flat refuse to pay taxes for a decade or two.

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don't kid yourselves there's many populist sanders supporters
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