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Colorado Christian cakeshop sued a third time for discrimination


By Caleb Parke
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The owner of Masterpiece Cakeshop -- which won a case before the U.S. Supreme Court recently -- was sued for a third time this week.

Jack Phillips, the Lakewood, Colo. bakery owner who has refused to bake cakes that violate his Christian faith, is being sued again by Autumn Scardina, a transgender woman, for refusing to bake a gender transition cake.



Scardina claims it is textbook LGBT discrimination. But Phillips said she is rehashing old claims that hold no merit.

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Phillips describes himself as an artist who uses cakes as "canvas" to express ideas and celebrate events. He has insisted he doesn't want to do something that goes against his faith. He said the cases against him have directly affected his family and business and he's faced death threats and harassment.

The Supreme Court ruled in favor of Phillips last year in a case where he refused to bake a cake for a same-sex wedding. The high court ruled the Colorado Civil Rights Commission showed "anti-religious bias" when it filed a discrimination charge against Phillips.

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The commission then filed another complaint against Phillips after he refused to make Scardina a cake celebrating a gender transition. He, in turn, sued the state claiming he was being singled out for his religious beliefs.

The Commission and Phillips agreed to drop their cases in March after discovery showed "anti-religious hostility" from the state toward the family-run bakery.

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Scardina decided to pursue separate litigation, which attorneys filed Wednesday in district court.

“The dignity of all citizens in our state needs to be honored. Masterpiece Cakeshop said before the Supreme Court they would serve any baked good to members of the LGBTQ community. It was just the religious significance of it being a wedding cake,” Paula Griesen, one of the attorneys representing Scardina, told the local CBS station. “We don’t believe they’ve been honest with the public.”
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Man, those Christian haters just won't give up!
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Man, those Christian haters just won't give up!
More examples of the tolerant left.

We need tort reform, and to make people pay if they lose a case, to help stop frivolous and punitive lawsuits designed to harass or bankrupt people.
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Someone needs to find a Muslim bake shop and demand a gay wedding cake.
Or a black bake shop and demand a KKK cake. Or maybe a Jewish bake shop and demand a **** cake.
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It doesn’t violate your faith to bake a cake. That wasn’t one of the 10 Commandments. That’s just bullshit and a reason to discriminate. If you put your political or religious views front and center on a business that does not require it, you are asking for problems. I was seeking to buy some USA made shorts today and didn’t because they decided to politicize their website. I found another company making a more expensive product that I will buy from.

(BTW, company Xeylon or something like that. Owner had a MAGA hat. No way for me but a good source for some of you guys who also appreciate US made stuff.
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It doesn’t violate your faith to bake a cake. That wasn’t one of the 10 Commandments. That’s just bullshit and a reason to discriminate. If you put your political or religious views front and center on a business that does not require it, you are asking for problems. I was seeking to buy some USA made shorts today and didn’t because they decided to politicize their website. I found another company making a more expensive product that I will buy from.

(BTW, company Xeylon or something like that. Owner had a MAGA hat. No way for me but a good source for some of you guys who also appreciate US made stuff.
And forcing people to do **** they don't want to do isn't in the 10 Commandments either. You libs just don't get it so you bully and harass folks that you don't agree with. Truly despicable people.

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Originally Posted by Brunello View Post
It doesn’t violate your faith to bake a cake. That wasn’t one of the 10 Commandments. That’s just bullshit and a reason to discriminate. If you put your political or religious views front and center on a business that does not require it, you are asking for problems. I was seeking to buy some USA made shorts today and didn’t because they decided to politicize their website. I found another company making a more expensive product that I will buy from.

(BTW, company Xeylon or something like that. Owner had a MAGA hat. No way for me but a good source for some of you guys who also appreciate US made stuff.
So far the courts disagree with you.
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on the grounds of his Christian beliefs opens a pandora box of cases forever:
i'm a Catholic which says my church is the only one true church so no religious celebrating cakes
for heretical non-Catholics
No cake- Moslems because they are infidels
No anniversary cake for trump because he is divorced and commits adultery
No cake for veterans because they kill-thou shall not kill
the list can get endless
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Originally Posted by Brunello View Post
It doesn’t violate your faith to bake a cake. That wasn’t one of the 10 Commandments. That’s just bullshit and a reason to discriminate. If you put your political or religious views front and center on a business that does not require it, you are asking for problems. I was seeking to buy some USA made shorts today and didn’t because they decided to politicize their website. I found another company making a more expensive product that I will buy from.

(BTW, company Xeylon or something like that. Owner had a MAGA hat. No way for me but a good source for some of you guys who also appreciate US made stuff.
It's a good thing that you don't get to determine someone else's faith. There is more to faith than the 10 Commandments.
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Originally Posted by Brunello View Post
It doesn’t violate your faith to bake a cake. That wasn’t one of the 10 Commandments. That’s just bullshit and a reason to discriminate. If you put your political or religious views front and center on a business that does not require it, you are asking for problems. I was seeking to buy some USA made shorts today and didn’t because they decided to politicize their website. I found another company making a more expensive product that I will buy from.

(BTW, company Xeylon or something like that. Owner had a MAGA hat. No way for me but a good source for some of you guys who also appreciate US made stuff.
So you exercised your freedom and chose from vendor B instead of vendor A. See how that works? I'd wager there are plenty of other bakers that would be happy to baker him/her a transgender birthday cake. Whatever the F that is.
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“Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.” American liberals have almost entirely abandoned liberalism, with its tenets of generosity and tolerance, and now insist on conformity and homogeneity — to be enforced at the point of a government bayonet, if necessary, or through financial ruination, or whatever other means of coercion is near at hand.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/...s-persecution/
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Nothing worse than an intolerant, holier-than-thou Christian.
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So, according to libs, would the baker be FORCED to make a cake with a detailed depiction of **** sex? If not forced, then the baker is allowed to discriminate on the basis of decency, but not on grounds of religious freedom.
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How about this for a solution ..

''Yes , you can have your money /deposit back ..Have a nice day ''





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Originally Posted by TBIRD57 View Post
on the grounds of his Christian beliefs opens a pandora box of cases forever:
i'm a Catholic which says my church is the only one true church so no religious celebrating cakes
for heretical non-Catholics
No cake- Moslems because they are infidels
No anniversary cake for trump because he is divorced and commits adultery
No cake for veterans because they kill-thou shall not kill
the list can get endless
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This naturally is a good point, but it is the artists talent or the businesses choice as to what he offers, that is the separating factor here. What he choose to make and display or to buy and stock, can't be forced. As the cases have stated, anyone of any distinction can walk in and buy what is on the self, or get a cake from the catalog of what he has made.

Walmart could tomorrow refuse to sell anything blue, and could they be forced to stock and display blue?

The reverse could happen too, where like Kosher food places, are forced to sell Big Macs.
LBGQT stores, are forced to sale Straight T-shirts.
General Dynamics is forced to sell me an F-16 fighter jet with all of the fun missiles!
the list could get endless.

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So can I sue a Muslim sandwich shop that doesn’t serve pulled pork sandwiches? Why is that any different than a cake shop that won’t put dilldoes and pipe “Best Wishes Steve and Larry on your Marriage” onto a cake. Sorry we don’t make those is all that should suffice. Can they say no to a “Congratulations on Your Abortion!” cake or how about a “10 Years as a Satanist” cake?

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So, what you’re advocating for is more discrimination? So do we go back to “whites only” cake shops and “no Jews need apply” signs in store windows. The really simple solution is to realize that Jesus really doesn’t give a **** who you sell a cake to. He might be more interested in you demonstrating a little more compassion and putting extra love into a cake for someone whose life you don’t fully understand. But today’s “Christians” are asserting their right to be just like all the other bigoted ******** in the world. Bless their hearts!


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So, according to libs, would the baker be FORCED to make a cake with a detailed depiction of **** sex? If not forced, then the baker is allowed to discriminate on the basis of decency, but not on grounds of religious freedom.
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Nothing worse than an intolerant, holier-than-thou Christian.
Sure there is - an intolerant, holier-than-thou transgender that can't just move along and is trying to force someone to disavow their beliefs or close up shop.
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The easiest solution would be to start stackin' bodies.
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The easiest solution would be to start stackin' bodies.
You mean Christian cake shop owners? No, violence isn't the answer....ever.
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