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Sorry Joe, If Polls 18 Months Out Were Accurate Then Hillary Would Be President

 
Old 06-12-2019, 02:42 PM
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Sorry Joe, If Polls 18 Months Out Were Accurate Then Hillary Would Be President

Democrats are celebrating a poll showing Joe Biden trouncing President Trump 18 months out, even though polls from 2018 showed Hillary Clinton doing the same.


Democrats and #NeverTrump Republicans alike are celebrating new polling showing former vice president Joe Biden enjoying a double digit lead over President Donald Trump, though if the 2016 election is any indication, the celebrations are almost certainly premature.

A Quinnipiac University poll released June 11 shows nearly every Democrat beating President Trump in 2020, with Biden polling at 53 per cent to the sitting president’s 40 per cent. Nearly every candidate enjoys a comfortable lead over President Trump, including Sen. Bernie Sanders, Sen. Kamala Harris, Sen. Elizabeth Warren, Pete Buttigieg, and Sen. Cory Booker.

CBS News called it a “landslide”, and was echoed by The Hill who called it “landslides proportions”. Even the formerly conservative network, Fox News, said the polling information represents “Warning signs for Trump”.

It appears these mainstream media outlets completely forgot the last election, when a poll revealed that failed-presidential candidate Hillary Clinton polled even better against President Trump than Biden, and was released at virtually the same time in the campaign cycle.

On May 28, 2015, another Quinnipiac University poll was released showing President Trump was the candidate least likely to beat Clinton in a general election.

The poll showed Clinton trouncing President Trump with an 18 point advantage over him, higher than any other Republican presidential contender. Clinton was also expected to beat Chris Christie, Mike Huckabee, Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, and Sen. Ted Cruz, but all by narrower margins. President Trump is the only candidate expected to lose to Clinton by nearly 20 points.

Even polls slightly closer to the election seem fairly useless when one considers the previous election.

Yet another Quinnipiac University poll, conducted in December of 2011, showed Mitt Romney narrowly beating President Barack Obama in key battleground states that would have almost certainly secured his presidency.

This may lead some to wonder if mainstream media websites are giddily reported this latest poll as an attempt at either wish fulfillment or an attempt to dishearten President Trump’s vocal, dedicated base of supporters.


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All the speculation and reporting about an election that is going to happen 18 months from now is a waste of time. It will be a different world by Nov 2020, hell it will be a different world by Nov 2019.
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2 months out they were picking hitlary
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Not only Hillary, but Reagan would have lost, Bush 41 would have lost and I believe Bush 43 as well

It takes a special kind of stupid to believe the polls this far out
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Originally Posted by KenHorse View Post
Not only Hillary, but Reagan would have lost, Bush 41 would have lost and I believe Bush 43 as well

It takes a special kind of stupid to believe the polls this far out
stupid to believe any poll which isn't a daily tracking poll sampling likely voters this far out. my bro has the TV on all day in his dental office. called me 3 times today about farce news pushing the quinnipiac poll
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Somebody please tell me what Biden's appeal is ??

He's weird, hasn't developed a cogent platform yet that I can see and the only upside may be that he's the best of the worst ...
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looking forward to 18 months of comedy with Joe's gaffs, backtracking, lying, and stuttering...
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink View Post
Somebody please tell me what Biden's appeal is ??

He's weird, hasn't developed a cogent platform yet that I can see and the only upside may be that he's the best of the worst ...
He was part of the Obama Regime

(to normal Americans, that isn't a positive but it is to the braindead BHDIFOTPOTTS)
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I stopped looking at polls a few years ago. As far as I can tell they are almost always wrong.
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Originally Posted by Jughead View Post
2 months out they were picking hitlary
2 seconds out they were picking Hillary.

Originally Posted by KenHorse View Post
Not only Hillary, but Reagan would have lost, Bush 41 would have lost and I believe Bush 43 as well

It takes a special kind of stupid to believe the polls this far out
Indeed, this has been going on for a long time. Carter was predicted to wipe the floor with Reagan, and still expected to win just weeks before election day. The polls are done in a way to maximize Democrat participation or are worded in such ways as to get the desired result.

Yet you here talking heads continuing to quote polls as if 2016 didn't expose it all once again. So yes it does take a special type of stupid to believe polls, even on election day.
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I will call any poll with Biden leading Trump bullshit, because it's too soon.

If Trump pulls ahead in the polls I will do a 180 and praise the polls as accurate.

I will do this because I like to irritate Trump haters.
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Originally Posted by KenHorse View Post
Not only Hillary, but Reagan would have lost, Bush 41 would have lost and I believe Bush 43 as well

It takes a special kind of stupid to believe the polls this far out

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18 months hell, the polls were wrong the night of the election in 2016.
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink View Post
Somebody please tell me what Biden's appeal is ??

He's weird, hasn't developed a cogent platform yet that I can see and the only upside may be that he's the best of the worst ...
What, "I'll Cure Cancer!" isn't a cogent platform?
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Any poll that shows Spartacus,The Sleeze and Pocahontas ahead of Trump is laughable.

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Originally Posted by colo63sw View Post
All the speculation and reporting about an election that is going to happen 18 months from now is a waste of time. It will be a different world by Nov 2020, hell it will be a different world by Nov 2019.
Also, until we start electing Presidents on the basis of the popular vote, national polls have very little importance.
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Other than their polls, what else do they have to talk about when it comes to the Democratic Socialist Candidates. Their policies?
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this crap needs to stop,they only should get to run from feb of the year of the elections,,

stop this constant election cycle BS
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18 months out?

The NY times said Hillary had a 92% chance of Winning ON Election Day.
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Maybe groping women is the new path to the whitehouse.... worked for Donald and it hasn't hurt Joe.
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