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Half the jobs in the USA pay less than $18 an hour

 
Old 06-12-2019, 11:01 PM
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What should be the median salary? $100 an hour?
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:12 PM
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OP would complain if he got a blow job from Barry himself.
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:20 PM
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Let me take a wild guess that the lower 1/2 are also on the left side of the "Bell"...
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:22 PM
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One of my grandfather's favorite sayings, and one that has stuck with me my entire life, is "Every[one] is worth the same amount from the neck down."
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Old 06-13-2019, 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by pdiddy972 View Post
More reason to go to school or learn a trade....don't settle on mediocrity and just taking the easy path.....then blaming others for your failure......standard democrat BS.....
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Old 06-13-2019, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 1%r View Post
the purpose of a business is to generate a profit, they can't operate at a loss.
Unless you are the failing government.....
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Old 06-13-2019, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 1%r View Post
the mayor isn't going anywhere and 1/1024th isn't either. like i said bernie will cross the finish line unless deja vu 2016 strikes again. you know there's a 50% chance of that happening with the establishment.

i want to see sanders verses trump. socialist populist verses capitalist populist.
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Originally Posted by flange View Post
I have trades jobs open, union shop. base pay, 58 per hour plus benefits and company supplied vehicle. Cant find people. too many idiot parents convinced their kids that college is the key to success, and kids got brainwashed by idiot professors. my top employees the last few years made well above 100k.
This is a perfect example...I graduated HS in 1995 and went to a HVAC trade school and I cannot tell you how many people wrote me off as some sort of idiot.
Friends parents were like, oh good for you, that is so great...Tommy is going to U of I
I've been the HVAC business 23 years now, make over 100K, decent health insurance, 401K, always have plenty of work (sometimes WAY to much) and get to do some pretty cool jobs. I'm not stuck behind a desk.
The sad part is I'm 42 and we cannot find anyone who is willing to work hard and is smart enough, mentally tough to handle the work. The young guys we get today cannot think for themselves, cannot retain what they are taught, and all seem to have a chip on the shoulders like they are owed something.
My friends that went to college, only a handful make over 100K, most are stuck in the 55-75K range and still after 20 years (!!!) have college school loans.
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1/2 the jobs in the US pay OVER $18/hr
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Old 06-13-2019, 07:34 AM
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What a ridiculous premise for a thread this is. We're averaging 7.4M job openings monthly, coupled with the lowest unemployment metrics in 50 years, along with continued upwards wage pressure exceeding 3+% growth on a consistent basis. Add in the large numbers of boomers retiring, and you have a myriad of opportunities for gainful employment available across all sectors.

Instead of whining about wage inequality, the rich paying their 'fair share' and waxing nostalgic for the 'good old days' of unions, the OP should encourage people to rely on themselves for their success instead of blaming others for a lack of it.
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Old 06-13-2019, 07:38 AM
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OP would start a thread under Obama and exclaim that over half the jobs in the US are OVER $18 an hour...

But he just trolling or plain ******* ignorant of life in general.
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Old 06-13-2019, 07:47 AM
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I believe Trump Tweeted something not too long ago saying the average hourly pay rate was about $27 and based on US per capita income stats that seems to be about right. When one compares this number with rates in China and other countries where manufacturing has gone offshore, it is easy to understand how the bottom lines for manufacturers can be very different when paying a few dollars an hour for labor versus $27,
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OP would complain if he got a blow job from Barry himself.
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by BradSW View Post
OP would complain if he got a blow job from Barry himself.
I want him to provide proof it didnít happen.
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by shane p View Post
So find a different job if you need to make more. There a dumb ***** out there that donít deserve 5 bucks an hour.


Originally Posted by Silver05GTO View Post
So the dems will push for $20 an hour? Then raise everyone's property taxes, income taxes, car registrations, tolls, etc

No wonder so many low income folks stay on welfare and drive uninsured unregistered cars.....


I started in the workforce, full time, in 1971. I was being paid $3.45/hour, as an entry level worker, learning a skilled trade. It was a decent paycheck, actually, for the time. I worked my way up from there. HOWEVER, as you point out, taxes and inflation ate up a large percentage of the raises that I received in subsequent years. I bought my first new car in 1971. It was a Chevelle SS454. Sticker price was $4250. What would that be today??



Originally Posted by WICKEDFRC View Post
This. And as I mentioned above, stupid don't pay well.

And stupid people don't deserve equality when it comes to the corporate pay scale.

Stupid gets minimum wage or less.
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by theandies View Post
Would you just ******* move to the country you think is best and stop posting these bash America threads. I'm sick of them. Must suck going through life hating the very country you currently live in. And it must suck going through life thinking government will solve all your problems for you. Don't want to make less than $18 an hour BETTER YOURSELF.
But, bottom line, please leave the US as soon as possible.
Well said !!
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by flange View Post
I will use the widget manufacturer from six sigma. they started making widgets and became successful. they grew the company and treated their employees fair. over time, more and more regulations were imposed on the manufacturer, driving the cost of doing business. they tried to be efficient by promoting good workers, by adding new automation, and cutting down on waste. the workers unionized and demanded higher wages and benefits. the owners had no choice once the union won the election, and had to negotiate with the teamsters or other union. over time, workers felt more entitled and less willing to produce at a high rate. the owners tried to get rid of workers. the union fought, threatened legal action etc. the government continued to add burden via regulation, taxation, and other burdens. the plant goes into fight or flight more. they cant decertify the union, so they close and move offshore.

have you ever worked in any manufacturing plants and seen the nonsense first hand.
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Nice fairytale. And it is a fairytale. If that fantasy was even remotely close to true we'd see the wage spikes from those union bullies pushing those wages ever higher until the companies left. Show your chart demonstrating that effect. I assume we're talking about the 1980s.
Definitely NOT a fairy tale. There are LOTS of examples of this happening, read about Mack Trucks. I had a ringside seat as they were squeezed out of the Lehigh Valley area basically by exactly what is described above. The only real difference is they moved their manufacturing, and eventually their Corporate HQ to the Southern US instead of overseas.

You are wrong about seeing "wage spikes". The unions push the hourly wages somewhat higher, but the bigger problem is the work rules designed to maximize staffing so that all of their buddies can get these high paying union jobs too. As a result it's not so much the per worker cost that goes up, it's the total payroll cost to the employer that does. Even this is only temporary, ask all the union guys in the Bethlehem/Allentown area that used to work for Mack what they are making today, compared to 30 years ago, and you'll find the long-term net affect is workers making less money.
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Definitely NOT a fairy tale. There are LOTS of examples of this happening, read about Mack Trucks. I had a ringside seat as they were squeezed out of the Lehigh Valley area basically by exactly what is described above. The only real difference is they moved their manufacturing, and eventually their Corporate HQ to the Southern US instead of overseas.

You are wrong about seeing "wage spikes". The unions push the hourly wages somewhat higher, but the bigger problem is the work rules designed to maximize staffing so that all of their buddies can get these high paying union jobs too. As a result it's not so much the per worker cost that goes up, it's the total payroll cost to the employer that does. Even this is only temporary, ask all the union guys in the Bethlehem/Allentown area that used to work for Mack what they are making today, compared to 30 years ago, and you'll find the long-term net affect is workers making less money.
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:43 AM
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Mack truck is a great example, and there are more just in that Lehigh valley. Pdiddly is very uninformed.
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Originally Posted by pdiddy972 View Post
$18 an hour is around $36,000 - $38,000 a year.

Here are some:

https://www.careerbuilder.com/advice...that-pay-40000

1. Athletic trainer*
Job description: Athletic trainers specialize in preventing, diagnosing and treating muscle and bone injuries and illnesses. They work with people of all ages and skill levels, from young children to soldiers and professional athletes.
Typical education level: Bachelorís degree
Median annual pay: $41,600

2. Biological technician
Job description: Biological technicians help biological and medical scientists conduct laboratory tests and experiments. They also set up, maintain and clean laboratory instruments, gather and prepare samples, conduct biological tests, document their work, analyze experimental data and write reports.
Typical education level: Bachelorís degree
Median annual pay: $39,020

3. Broadcast and sound engineering technician
Job description: Broadcast and sound engineering technicians set up, operate and maintain the electrical equipment for radio and television broadcasts, concerts, sound recordings and movies and in office and school buildings.
Typical education level: High school diploma or equivalent
Median annual pay: $39,870

4. Carpenter
Job description: Carpenters construct and repair building frameworks and structures ó such as stairways, doorframes, partitions and rafters ó made from wood and other materials. They also may install kitchen cabinets, siding and drywall.
Typical education level: High school diploma or equivalent
Median annual pay: $39,530

5. Chef and head cook
Job description: Chefs and head cooks oversee the daily food preparation at restaurants or other places where food is served. They direct kitchen staff and handle any food-related concerns.
Typical education level: High school diploma or equivalent
Median annual pay: $40,630

6. Construction equipment operator
Job description: Construction equipment operators drive, maneuver or control the heavy machinery used to construct roads, bridges, buildings and other structures.
Typical education level: High school diploma or equivalent
Median annual pay: $39,460

7. Correctional officer
Job description: Correctional officers are responsible for overseeing individuals who have been arrested and are awaiting trial or who have been sentenced to serve time in a jail, reformatory or prison.
Typical education level: High school diploma or equivalent
Median annual pay: $39,020

8. Diesel service technician and mechanic
Job description: Diesel service technicians and mechanics inspect, repair or overhaul buses, trucks and anything else with a diesel engine.
Typical education level: High school diploma or equivalent
Median annual pay: $40,850

9. Environmental science and protection technician
Job description: Environmental science and protection technicians do laboratory and field tests to monitor the environment and investigate sources of pollution, including those affecting health. Many work under the supervision of environmental scientists and specialists, who direct their work and evaluate their results.
Typical education level: Associate degree
Median annual pay: $41,380

10. Licensed practical and licensed vocational nurse
Job description: Licensed practical and licensed vocational nurses provide basic nursing care. They work under the direction of registered nurses and doctors. They typically monitor patientsí health, administer basic nursing care, discuss health care with patients and keep patient records.
Typical education level: Postsecondary nondegree award
Median annual pay: $40,380

11. Machinist and tool and die maker
Job description: Machinists and tool and die makers set up and operate a variety of computer-controlled or mechanically-controlled machine tools to produce precision metal parts, instruments and tools.
Typical education level: High school diploma or equivalent
Median annual pay: $39,910

12. Mental health counselor and marriage and family therapist
Job description: Mental health counselors and marriage and family therapists help people manage or overcome mental and emotional disorders and problems with their family and relationships. They listen to clients and ask questions to help the clients understand their problems and develop strategies to improve their lives.
Typical education level: Masterís degree
Median annual pay: $39,710

13. Recreational therapist
Job description: Recreational therapists plan, direct and coordinate recreation programs for people with disabilities or illnesses. They use a variety of techniques, including arts and crafts, drama, music, dance, sports, games and field trips. These programs help maintain or improve a clientís physical and emotional well-being.
Typical education level: Bachelorís degree
Median annual pay: $39,410

14. Sheet metal worker
Job description: Sheet metal workers fabricate or install products that are made from thin metal sheets, such as ducts used for heating and air-conditioning.
Typical education level: High school diploma or equivalent
Median annual pay: $41,710

15. Surgical technologist
Job description: Surgical technologists, also called operating room technicians, assist in surgical operations. They prepare operating rooms, arrange equipment and help doctors and nurses during surgeries.
Typical education level: Postsecondary nondegree award
Median annual pay: $39,920

16. Water and wastewater treatment plant and system operator
Job description: Water and wastewater treatment plant and system operators manage a system of machines, often through the use of control boards, to transfer or treat water or wastewater.
Typical education level: High school diploma or equivalent
Median annual pay: $40,770

Hmmm, nothing below $39k/year. So tell us oh wise one pdid; what should these positions be paying and why?
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