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Why do you regard religious belief as valid?

Further why is your religion the "right" one? Why do you worship as a Jew and not a Catholic, etc.?

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I am a Christian. As such, I don't "embrace religion". With that said, there are aspects of the practice of my system of belief that might appear "religious" to some who perhaps define religion differently that how it is defined in the Bible, which defines "pure religion, undefiled" as "visiting the widows and fatherless" among other things. If you define religion as the regular practice of certain behaviors such as going to church, well, I do that...

Right now I am living on a Navy ship and surrounded by people who seem obsessed with being as vulgar and foul-mouthed as they can possibly be at all times. Nearly every sentence that pours out of a (male or female, makes no difference) sailor's mouth has some kind of crude sexual connotation attached to it, and I personally would rather focus on God and His goodness when I can. So I go to a church service once a week. For me, it's an hour of sanity when I live in a world which has so clearly gone right off the rails. I read several chapters of Bible every day. It helps to offset the garbage that is proffered for entertainment on the ship's media system every day, because that's what the guys in my shop like to watch, so it helps to cleanse my mind when I can get a few minutes of privacy to meditate on it...

The Bible asserts that the devil, Satan, is the god (little g) of THIS world. If you can provide a better and perhaps more succinct reason why human life on this planet is as it is, I'd love to hear it...

I was raised in an agnostic home by parents that had essentially defected from the Lutheran church. As I grew up I began to struggle with a number of behavioral issues that I won't go into here, but suffice to say I had a serious problem with sin. I was not acting in a manner that was healthy or beneficial to myself or those around me and I knew it, and I seemed to have little or no control over it...

I began (partially through friends encountered by circumstance) investigating what the Bible had to say about my problem, and after a couple years I accepted Jesus Christ, yes, as my [proverbial] Lord and Savior. That experience changed my life, and as I studied who Jesus was I became absolutely convinced over time that He was the single most influential man who ever walked this Earth, that His words were worthy of my attention, and to this day I try as best I can to weigh all of my thoughts, words, and actions against His written example.

I have investigated the authenticity of the Gospels and the writings of Paul and others to convince myself to my own personal satisfaction to believe that the things written therein have merit worth my attention. I am convinced through logical analysis of my surroundings that the Universe is governed somehow by an inestimably powerful Creator, and I am convinced that He came to visit us in the form of a man, perhaps if for no other reason that we cannot look up at him and justifiably scream "You don't know what it's like down here!!"

For me, the offer of forgiveness of sin that Christ put forth by dying in our place on a Roman cross makes perfect sense. God doesn't ask me to do anything to impress Him, He only asks me to accept what He did on my behalf, and (at least to those willing to listen) tell others what He did for me, because He did it for all of them as well. As such, I see any system of religion that does not wholly acknowledge the reality of Christ as God incarnate as straying from God's absolute truth to whatever degree that it does so...so I have real issues with, say, Catholicism which places as much emphasis on the practice of religion (rote and repetition) as on developing a real relationship with Christ. Same with Islam, which relegates Him to the role of mere prophet, and seeks to kill and enslave those who believe otherwise. From what I can see, Buddhism and Hindu do not address the sin issue to my satisfaction. Only Jesus does that, and He made the offer to all of mankind.

I'll pretty much leave it at that. I don't claim to be better or smarter than...ANYBODY. I consider myself an extremely fortunate human being, considering the things that I did to destroy my own life for several years. As I get older I look forward to an eternity with my Creator...
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God is a real thing but for me to come to that conclusion I first had to understand Satan or evil whatever is a force as well. Iíve seen both unfold in my life. Let me tell you working for the dark lord is not a good idea
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Because it embraces me.
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Originally Posted by brassplyer View Post
Why do you regard religious belief as valid?

Further why is your religion the "right" one? Why do you worship as a Jew and not a Catholic, etc.?
How about you? What's your take?
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Default you are looking for answers in the wrong place- go direct to the source

ralationship with god is personal and private
the prudent and the just know it , now you do too
so plan your life accordingly or suffer in your search for truth with the collective of the confused

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ralationship with god is personal and private
the prudent and the just know it , now you do too
so plan your life accordingly or suffer in your search for truth with the collective of the confused
Well-stated. My relationship with Jesus is personal and I have no need or reason to justify it in any way.
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I am a republican but the idea of a talking snake, a pregnant virgin and fitting all creatures on the planet on an ark are absolutely retarded. Most people simply follow a religion because they are born into it and the brain washing process starts at a very young age. Ask any Christian, Catholic, Muslim, Jew, Hindu or Buddhist and they will all say their religion is the right one and all the other ones are wrong. I am an atheist and If i were to choose a religion I would study them all and select the one that suits me the best. Also since the crusades more people have been killed in the name of religion than anything else. Right now as I type this there is a muslim extremist planning on carrying out a terrorist attack or a christian white supremacist who wants to shoot up a Jewish temple because he hates Jews. When was the last time an atheist carried out a terrorist attack?
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I am a republican but the idea of a talking snake, a pregnant virgin and fitting all creatures on the planet on an ark are absolutely retarded. Most people simply follow a religion because they are born into it and the brain washing process starts at a very young age. Ask any Christian, Catholic, Muslim, Jew, Hindu or Buddhist and they will all say their religion is the right one and all the other ones are wrong. I am an atheist and If i were to choose a religion I would study them all and select the one that suits me the best. Also since the crusades more people have been killed in the name of religion than anything else. Right now as I type this there is a muslim extremist planning on carrying out a terrorist attack or a christian white supremacist who wants to shoot up a Jewish temple because he hates Jews. When was the last time an atheist carried out a terrorist attack?
While you might want to quibble about words like "terrorism", Stalin and Mao have the innocent blood of some 70 million people on their hands...in the name of "keeping the masses from their opiate of choice"...

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Religion is good for laying down a basic moral framework for many people.

It's all the supernatural and ceremonial crap as well as some religion's failure to accept basic science that gives it a bad name.
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I believed until I saw Tammy Fae Baker without all of her plastered on makeup on once and it was actually Jimmy Hoffa...
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Simple,

I believe God Almighty is very much real and his Son Jesus Christ is my Load and Savior!
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Originally Posted by birdsmith View Post
Right now I am living on a Navy ship and surrounded by people who seem obsessed with being as vulgar and foul-mouthed as they can possibly be at all times. Nearly every sentence that pours out of a (male or female, makes no difference) sailor's mouth has some kind of crude sexual connotation attached to it....
So now I know why there's a phrase "He swears like a sailor."

Anyway, you provided a fine explanation. Thanks for that.
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While you might want to quibble about words like "terrorism", Stalin and Mao have the innocent blood of some 70 million people on their hands...in the name of "keeping the masses from their opiate of choice"...
Those things happened a very long time. Im talking about the last 10 years or so what do we have to constantly worry about?
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While you might want to quibble about words like "terrorism", Stalin and Mao have the innocent blood of some 70 million people on their hands...in the name of "keeping the masses from their opiate of choice"...
Correct...and Hitler despised all forms of religion too.

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I believed until I saw Tammy Fae Baker without all of her plastered on makeup on once and it was actually Jimmy Hoffa...
Now we know!!
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While you might want to quibble about words like "terrorism", Stalin and Mao have the innocent blood of some 70 million people on their hands...in the name of "keeping the masses from their opiate of choice"...
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Those things happened a very long time. Im talking about the last 10 years or so what do we have to constantly worry about?
Said the person trying to cast aspersions by bringing up the crusades...
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Well-stated. My relationship with Jesus is personal and I have no need or reason to justify it in any way.
churches promote this confusion to raise funds bybusing smoke and mirrors between collective faith and personal devotion- it's a trick .

organized religion isn't anymore collective than policitcs are and only the week minded fall for it , every time

baaaah , baaaaah................ we are gods flock =lmao it's a socialist trick to seperate you from your money in the name of "our" god?? wth is that?

it is god, the god or my god but never ever our god or you always get terrorism and a scoiety of blithering lunatics
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Those things happened a very long time. Im talking about the last 10 years or so what do we have to constantly worry about?
The two instances that I cited both occurred in the last century. Marxist communism and its socialistic derivatives (which not only gave us those 70,000,000 dead but millions more in Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Nicaragua, and other places) are still alive throughout the world, we (again) have card-carrying "democratic socialists" running for president in America RIGHT NOW as well as occupying high office. You have THAT to worry about, if you are one who's given to worry.

And if the festering cancer of communism isn't enough to worry you, you have large metropolitan areas in America AND in Western Europe that have literally been overrun by Muslims wishing to invoke their (Sharia) law, which is the polar opposite of what your garden-variety Christian would subscribe to. If you read what I posted earlier, you will see that there was actually some logical thought invested in my decision to follow Christ. Or you can just write me off as a "retard" if you wish...

At risk of digressing, I would submit that the United States grew to its position of prestige in the world not in spite of its Christian roots but BECAUSE of it, and the marginalization of Christianity in recent years is responsible for more of the social, economic, and material ills in our country than most would care to admit.

I don't disagree that LOTS of people have been killed over the course of human history in the somewhat nebulous name of "Religion". But to ignore your surroundings and default to atheism because the God that believers believe in seems so mean and nasty is to ignore reality on its face. Whether life was created or evolved or was/is an amalgam of the two, reality is a bloody, messy business. I just happen to accept the notion that a Creator was behind it, which (to me anyway) makes a lot more sense than the notion that all of this something was created by...nothing.
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While you might want to quibble about words like "terrorism", Stalin and Mao have the innocent blood of some 70 million people on their hands...in the name of "keeping the masses from their opiate of choice"...

Didnt christians kill a whole **** load of innocent people?
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