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Old 07-12-2019, 12:07 PM
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This guy appears to been targeting no one in particular but instead fueling his ego as a LEO. He trashed the whole police force he works with and other honest LEO's outside his circle. I hope he gets a very long prison term and the lawyers are lined up outside the courthouse to right the wrongs this POS caused on people he came in contact with.
I never understood planting stuff on people.

If you want to make a lot of arrests, work in a high crime area, or a high crime assignment in a more stable area. I've never had a problem finding guns, dope, or stolen cars in my entire career because...it's pretty much freaking everywhere. You almost can't avoid finding it if you're looking for it, even if you're incompetent. If you don't care about it, there are plenty of front license plate tickets to write, or community relations meetings to attend. Wanting to be a "high producer" without actually producing anything simply doesn't register in my mind. I guess it's like the people who cut the course to win a local 5k.

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I never understood planting stuff on people.

If you want to make a lot of arrests, work in a high crime area, or a high crime assignment in a more stable area. I've never had a problem finding guns, dope, or stolen cars in my entire career because...it's pretty much freaking everywhere. You almost can't avoid finding it if you're looking for it, even if you're incompetent. If you don't care about it, there are plenty of front license plate tickets to write, or community relations meetings to attend. Wanting to be a "high producer" without actually producing anything simply doesn't register in my mind. I guess it's like the people who cut the course to win a local 5k.
On the other hand - if it was someone that you know got away with murder, perhaps multiple times even - truly for sure knew it and they skated ?!?!?
I could see the justification......

But not planting drugs to boost his career..... that **** needs punishment for sure.... Makes all police look bad.... and thats unacceptable IMO....

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Old 07-12-2019, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dpd3672 View Post
I never understood planting stuff on people.

If you want to make a lot of arrests, work in a high crime area, or a high crime assignment in a more stable area. I've never had a problem finding guns, dope, or stolen cars in my entire career because...it's pretty much freaking everywhere. You almost can't avoid finding it if you're looking for it, even if you're incompetent. If you don't care about it, there are plenty of front license plate tickets to write, or community relations meetings to attend. Wanting to be a "high producer" without actually producing anything simply doesn't register in my mind. I guess it's like the people who cut the course to win a local 5k.
Im assuming when its time to get promoted the officer who writes more tickets, has more arrests is more likely to get promoted than someone who is barely doing his job.
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Originally Posted by Warpdrv View Post
On the other hand - if it was someone that you know got away with murder, perhaps multiple times even - truly for sure knew it and they skated ?!?!?
I could see the justification......


But not planting drugs to boost his career..... that **** needs punishment for sure.... Makes all police look bad.... and thats unacceptable IMO....
In that case, I could at least UNDERSTAND it, although I still can't morally agree with it.

But placing dope on randos just to pad your stats? This guy deserves worse than prison.
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Old 07-12-2019, 01:57 PM
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Im assuming when its time to get promoted the officer who writes more tickets, has more arrests is more likely to get promoted than someone who is barely doing his job.
Not really as much as you'd think, and to be honest, being a good COP and being a good SUPERVISOR are only slightly related skill sets.

Sure, performance evaluations and service ratings are sometimes a factor, but a surprisingly small one. Seniority, military service, college, a promotional exam, and oral boards are almost the only factors that really affect a civil service exam.

I actually have the criteria for the promotional exam that my department is doing this weekend handy (taking the lieutenant exam myself). Here's the factors (first is for Lt, the second is for Sgt):



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mother fu%*er!
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Originally Posted by dpd3672 View Post
Not really as much as you'd think, and to be honest, being a good COP and being a good SUPERVISOR are only slightly related skill sets.

Sure, performance evaluations and service ratings are sometimes a factor, but a surprisingly small one. Seniority, military service, college, a promotional exam, and oral boards are almost the only factors that really affect a civil service exam.

I actually have the criteria for the promotional exam that my department is doing this weekend handy (taking the lieutenant exam myself). Here's the factors (first is for Lt, the second is for Sgt):
Curious about the "Assessment Center" being 50% of the promotion criteria. Is that a tribunal panel interview combined with fellow officer recommedations and public complaints or how does that work?
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Originally Posted by Warpdrv View Post
Has anyone noticed - How ptitty is so enormously ANTI-POLICE...?!?!?

He is always on a rant about law enforcement - no matter if there is wrong doing or not....
I don't condone corrupt cops, but I certainly see the continued attack of police by this Antifa member....

P-titty = Antifa
Which doesn't change the facts of this and too many other examples. He's a flaming lib who I often don't agree with but this is one of far too many examples of exactly why I view all police with a wary eye. I submit it's worse to blindly hero worship cops and wear blinders to the very real problems. As we see here a typical patrol cop is given tremendous power over citizens and they far too often abuse it.

You have to ask why does someone take on this job in the first place? Of course the usual cop sychophants will likely chime in with excuses - "a few bad apples". There's a lot more than a few.

Look up the Battle Of Athens. It was cops who were doing the enforcing of keeping blacks and others from voting - one insistently telling a black man he wasn't going to vote, beating him with brass knuckles then shooting him in the back for attempting to exercise his right to vote. To this day cops can and do suspend your constitutional rights - this incident is hardly an isolated example. During the hurricane that impacted New Orleans a while back - cops were unconstitutionally confiscating people's firearms because some nut was shooting at police helicopters. They were even confiscating antique guns. The old lady the thug cop tackled because she didn't want to leave her house. His actions of course were rubber-stamped as they far too often are.

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There was no dog in that video. The cop lied when he told her one was on the way and they were going to walk it around the truck.
The last cop I denied permission to search my vehicle tried the "we'll bring in a dog if you deny the search" tactic. I laughed in his face and told him "go for, I have all day". He didn't search and they brought no dog.
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Originally Posted by Warpdrv View Post
Has anyone noticed - How ptitty is so enormously ANTI-POLICE...?!?!?

He is always on a rant about law enforcement - no matter if there is wrong doing or not....
I don't condone corrupt cops, but I certainly see the continued attack of police by this Antifa member....

P-titty = Antifa
If you don't like it (clearly you don't and are a police apologist) then make them stop misbehaving. After all, that's my goal. You defending them isn't going to incentivize them to change.

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Originally Posted by pdiddy972 View Post
If you don't like it (clearly you don't and are a police apologist) then make them stop misbehaving. After all, that's my goal. You defending them isn't going to incentivize them to change.
Be specific how many need to change otherwise stop your continual whining. Nobody’s defending those whom break the law except in your twisted mind.
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Curious about the "Assessment Center" being 50% of the promotion criteria. Is that a tribunal panel interview combined with fellow officer recommedations and public complaints or how does that work?
Every department does it a little differently, but our most recent version of it is police executives from different agencies around the country assess the candidates. Interviews, exercises, and stuff of that nature. At the end, we get scored. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to it, although the criteria they're said to be looking for, while mostly subjective, is generally considered to be integrity, decisiveness, knowledge of policy, etc.
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Originally Posted by Torqaholic View Post
There was no dog in that video. The cop lied when he told her one was on the way and they were going to walk it around the truck.
The last cop I denied permission to search my vehicle tried the "we'll bring in a dog if you deny the search" tactic. I laughed in his face and told him "go for, I have all day". He didn't search and they brought no dog.
Any Cop who says that is not following lawful procedure. If you deny permission, he may legally detain you and tell you to remain there while he calls a canine, but he cannot use the threat as a bargaining chip to get what he wants. And the subsequent review of the incident will include him being able to articulate what constituted reasonable suspicion to call the dog.

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Originally Posted by dpd3672 View Post
Every department does it a little differently, but our most recent version of it is police executives from different agencies around the country assess the candidates. Interviews, exercises, and stuff of that nature. At the end, we get scored. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to it, although the criteria they're said to be looking for, while mostly subjective, is generally considered to be integrity, decisiveness, knowledge of policy, etc.
Makes sense. Officers on the review board from out of region creates a totally unbiased atmosphere.
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Originally Posted by pdiddy972 View Post
If you don't like it (clearly you don't and are a police apologist) then make them stop misbehaving. After all, that's my goal. You defending them isn't going to incentivize them to change.
What part of "I don't condone corrupt cops" do you not understand.....

You hating cops for the sake of hating cops might just be on you for being a lawless douchebag fuckwad.....
Don't do stupid ****, you won't win stupid prizes.....

I see you didn't deny being a ******* piece of **** Antifa fuckwad, so I guess I was right.....
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Originally Posted by 1%r View Post
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If you don't like it (clearly you don't and are a police apologist) then make them stop misbehaving. After all, that's my goal. You defending them isn't going to incentivize them to change.
Be specific how many need to change otherwise stop your continual whining. Nobody’s defending those whom break the law except in your twisted mind.
Those who so often rubber-stamp their actions or make it extremely difficult to fire/prosecute them are defending them.
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Originally Posted by dpd3672 View Post
Not really as much as you'd think, and to be honest, being a good COP and being a good SUPERVISOR are only slightly related skill sets.

Sure, performance evaluations and service ratings are sometimes a factor, but a surprisingly small one. Seniority, military service, college, a promotional exam, and oral boards are almost the only factors that really affect a civil service exam.

I actually have the criteria for the promotional exam that my department is doing this weekend handy (taking the lieutenant exam myself). Here's the factors (first is for Lt, the second is for Sgt):


So if im the guy patrolling the streets at night and I have an associates degree but I want to make detective what is the fastest way to get there?
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I never understood planting stuff on people.

If you want to make a lot of arrests, work in a high crime area, or a high crime assignment in a more stable area. I've never had a problem finding guns, dope, or stolen cars in my entire career because...it's pretty much freaking everywhere. You almost can't avoid finding it if you're looking for it, even if you're incompetent. If you don't care about it, there are plenty of front license plate tickets to write, or community relations meetings to attend. Wanting to be a "high producer" without actually producing anything simply doesn't register in my mind. I guess it's like the people who cut the course to win a local 5k.

It may be different now (but I doubt it...), but many police in Florida get their foot in the door in small towns. They go overboard on tickets/ arrests/ whatever so they can quickly build good stats to make it look like they are doing their job. Then they put this on their resume and shop themselves to a larger and larger town (and more money)....until they hit a city and become detectives or more. Since they aren't from cradle to grave at one agency, most never get caught with their dirty tricks. The town I grew up in had 3 officers, a chief and one police car. The turnover for new hires right out of the academy was about 1 or 2 a year. For a good decade in the 80's, it seemed like every drive-by officer ended up over their head and shot in other agencies. Everybody noticed it that was from town...became a bad joke. Small towns are different animals for most things.
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Old 07-12-2019, 06:25 PM
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Planting evidence is pretty common. At least these folks are alive. Dennis Tuttle, his wife and dog are dead and their reputation smeared. The two cops were allowed to retire so the get to keep their pension even if they go to prison. It has only been six months, they will sit on this until most folks have forgotten and then the cops will get a sweet plea deal.
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Originally Posted by pdiddy972 View Post
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...stops-n1028991

Four hours ago.

It took over a 1000 hours of work to uncover this guy's misdeeds. How many more are out there, doing this and not getting caught?
Taking a specific incident and coming up with generalizations and theories is inductive reasoning and usually used by dolts trying to make a case for a broad statement in lieu of having any real facts...
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