Cough.. GM ignition switch issue. Over 120 people dead (and likely more than that) and who knows how many more injured. Compensation paid to who knows how many people and close to $1B to the US government in fines.

GM is no saint when it comes to issues and quality.

What you don’t say is how just it was of Porsche to replace all the GT3 engines and then put a 10 year warranty on the drivetrain.

I seem to remember, not that long ago, certain Chevy Z motors grenading themselves because of a valve design problem. Thise cars are still blowing up and now face bearing and TI rod coating failures...which lead to additional shrapnel. What did we hear from GM...crickets.

No lack of GM hate in this thread.
The Porsche Fanboys are doing overtime since the C8 reveal. What is it about the C8 that has given them this terminal wedgy?

As a result of a class action suit, Porsche agreed to compensate owners of cars made between May 4, 2001 and February 21,2005 who had experienced an IMS bearing failure within the first ten years of the car's life, or 130,000 miles, whichever came first. Owners who had changed the IMS bearing as a preventative measure were also eligible for compensation. BTW engine failures from IMS problems were rare, since owners had their car checked out as soon as they detected an oil leak at the rear of the engine. Nevertheless, repairing the problem still cost over $2K since it required pulling the engine.
I use to follow the IMS issue closely on Rennlist, and the best estimate is that approximately 10% of Porsches made in that time frame suffered from the problem.

I have added a few more for you here just for the records.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...mparison-test/

http://www.superchevy.com/features/1...convertible-d/

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...mparison-test/

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...mparison-test/

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...mparison-test/

Truth be known the P-cars have never been vastly superior to Corvettes.
Folks and some magazines have said that for years but the empirical data has never shown that.

Sure there have been years where the P-cars have been better in performance. But there have been years where the Vettes have been better as well.
Heads will explode if I reminded folks there were years when the Vettes interiors where better.
Folks seem to forget when P-cars didnt have AC or power windows and the Vettes did. Or that it was 10 years after the Vette had a 6 speed manual before the P-car got a 6th cog. Or the fact the 911 got ABS brakes a year after the Vette in 1986.

I could go on and on but there is no need to. Folks remember history the way they want to.

My point is, the 911 is a great sports car and has always been, But like it or not the Vette has been right there with it tit for tat for over 60 years.
No I am not saying the Vette is better. But all things considered it has always been just as good a performer for far less money.
Take the time to read some of these comparison articles before you flip out.
You will see in some years the Vette had better ride quality in many of the test and was easier to live with day to day.

Realistically if you dig into comparison articles the only consistent area were the P-car has an advantage is fit and finish.
No denying that aspect and that's what the extra coin got you. Now even that's in question.

Regardless if you are talking empirical performance data for any given year head to head you stand just as much chance of seeing 4 tail lights as you do showing a Vette yours. Yea some years the P-car would be out front then there are others where the Vette would be.

Its been that way for over 60 years, and 2020 or beyond will be no different.

Let's not forget diesel gate and the fraud foisted on their buyers: VW parent co of Porsche

Let's not forget diesel gate and the fraud foisted on their buyers: VW parent co of Porsche has paid out 2 billion to date.

I would guess that every large company has its share of dirt....including GM. I personally buy the product and not the politics...even though I know one can affect the other. All I know is that both the Corvette and 911 were/are awesome cars and I have never had one issue with either car or company. So all is good in my world. Additionally, I belonged/belong to sizable Corvette and Porsche clubs and I have never heard a word from either memberships about the atrocities I read on this forum. Oh well! BTW, if you are really hungry for facts, perhaps you should read about the engine issue that plagued the C6 Z06 and the over heating issues that affected the C7 Z06. I heard that those two issues may have affected a person or two as well. I assume GM was sued for that based upon your statement above. I am sure GM gladly made it right with everyone:lol:

Funny how some people don’t know the difference between a fact and an opinion!:rofl:

LOL. Of course it does.....and the world is round too:banghead:

535 of them work in Washington, DC

At some point you have to realize some aren’t playing with a full deck or they are just being difficult. Interestingly, for a few on here it’s like a cult. Just smile....everyone on the forum with any sense at all has their number as well!

5 of them must also belong to this forum!

And have probably put them on ignore. ;)

Finally, someone that understands cars and doesn’t have their head stuck up GM’s butt!

I should as well and would, but they are too entertaining to miss. Just have to consider the source. In all honesty, we should react like the vast majority on this forum do by just not responding and ignoring their posts....but it’s hard to pass on the low hanging fruit!

That's exactly why CARB and the other California like minded states have to be stopped by the current EPA. They are essentially outlawing the gasoline powered car through regulation.

Everyone knows Porsche is conservative in their published performance specs....So no news here as usual. Can anyone else open these links? Would like to see what yo yo is posting. It’s my guess, these articles are not on 991.2 C2S cars or they are simply publishing the factory spec times. If they are testing they must have the driving skills of C6 Telepierre! Thanks

Amazing. He seems to have ignored the link I posted with the 3.1 time. Selective seeing must be a thing like selective listening for married folks is. And pretty sure what appear to be links are actually a screen shot vise active links.

Telepierre’s guiding principle:

“If you ignore a fact long enough it didn’t happen!”

Pretty nifty principle, but hard on credibility over time with a varied audience. This principle works best when practiced with like ill informed or highly impressionable individuals. The good thing is that these followers are easily identified and present themselves in a rapid fire fashion when ever confused with facts!