Originally Posted by Donny Brass
(Post 1592019406)
not to start a argument, but the 911 is in the tire tracks of the Corvette, so how was the Corvette too wide........... the camera in the 912 is in the 912, therefore if the 912 is too far inside, the Corvette will look to be wide........
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Originally Posted by Donny Brass
(Post 1592019406)
not to start a argument, but the 911 is in the tire tracks of the Corvette, so how was the Corvette too wide........... the camera in the 912 is in the 912, therefore if the 912 is too far inside, the Corvette will look to be wide........
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Originally Posted by jcsperson
(Post 1592019856)
The key. That was the line all day long. It doesn't suddenly change.
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Originally Posted by Bill32
(Post 1592020042)
Passes for position in a road race are very..........very rarely made by following the racing line. That's not how it's done.
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Originally Posted by Richard Ames
(Post 1592020093)
If any pass contact is made it Is side by side and not a T Bone and behind the door to push the rear of the car. It was a foul by the 912 to better the 911 position. At Sebring they did it too early and still lost. IMSA needs to take action against the spoiled Porsche Brats.
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regardless just blows all the way around
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Originally Posted by Whis9
(Post 1592020344)
Agreed, not sure if Bill32 had too many cocktails during the race.
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Originally Posted by Richard Ames
(Post 1592020093)
. It was a foul by the 912 to better the 911 position..
I'm not saying the Porsche was guilt free but if a car in front of me baubles like that I'm certainly going to move off line and see if a pass can be attempted. Again, did the Porsche come in too hot, yea. But it was an attempt to set up a pass. |
Originally Posted by Bill32
(Post 1592020526)
Do you have proof of that?
I'm not saying the Porsche was guilt free but if a car in front of me baubles like that I'm certainly going to move off line and see if a pass can be attempted. Again, did the Porsche come in too hot, yea. But it was an attempt to set up a pass. |
Porsche had no chance of completing that pass. Vette looks to be right where it is supposed to be. Porsche is on a T-bone line.
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Originally Posted by Bill32
(Post 1592020042)
Passes for position in a road race are very..........very rarely made by following the racing line. That's not how it's done.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...735794b014.jpg |
Im telling you, I'm watching this and I just FEEL the P cars going to do something and they did. For sure, that was a nasty and unsportanlike move by them...where is protests from team management??
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Originally Posted by jcsperson
(Post 1592020853)
No doubt, but there has to be room. There was not only no room, he also didn't have position, and that is not an overtaking area on that track. Look at the tire tracks. Milner is on the very inside of every tire track through that turn. You couldn't put a go kart between him and the barrier.
I'm just askng from a perspective stand point. |
IMSA: Makowiecki takes blame for Corvette clash
Porsche North America racing driver Fred Makowiecki accepted blame for the late-race hit that spun Corvette Racing's Tommy Milner and handed victory to the sister Porsche 911 RSR. "The collision in the penultimate lap was my fault," the Frenchman (ABOVE) said after placing seventh in IMSA's BUBBA burger Sports Car Grand Prix at Long Beach. "I was a touch too optimistic heading into the corner." a touch ??? is that a subtle admission of intent ? |
Originally Posted by Bill32
(Post 1592020887)
Have you watched the in car vid from the 912?
I'm just askng from a perspective stand point. |
Even if he would have made it in front of the corvette before the apex, how would he have made the turn? He'd be heading straight for the far wall, braking hard, and blocking the vette. How is that any better than driving the racing line and blocking the clearly faster Porsches?
Driving on a track that doesn't permit much passing in the turns is no justification for stupid driving. No matter what any driver says, everyone knows that subconsciously we all know that the inside rear driver will fare far better than the front car when they touch, so the stupidity twists into cunning to the driver seeing red... |
Originally Posted by jcsperson
(Post 1592021074)
Yup. It's right here:
But @20 seconds, the Corvette starts to loose traction under braking, the Porsche starts moving to the right looking for an opening but he was going too fast. If the Corvette didn't have that bauble, he would have been a few feet further up the track, might have been hit anyway might not. If the Corvette would have had to make one more correction, the Porsche may have had an opportunity to present himself and they could have had a good ol drag race to the next corner. |
So, if the Corvette does not bobble, the "too hot" Porsche hits the corner of the Vette and completes the pass instead of spinning the Corvette ?
the Porsche was out of control and was not making that corner even if the Vette was not there........ |
IMSA needs to penalize the P team for the next race. CLEARLY THE PORSCHE was headed to the wall...
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Originally Posted by Bill32
(Post 1592018662)
What really happened:
The Corvette was a tad too fast on corner exit in the previous corner and got squirrely, this caused him to drift out to the left a bit AND caused him to overslow. The Corvette "Opened the door, driver's right" and the Porsche tried to put his nose in there to see if there would be an advantage on corner exit. If the Corvette would have gone full throttle a couple of feet earlier (where he normally would have), he wouldn't have gotten tapped. As someone else said, just a racing incident. |
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