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This is the third recent thread on this subject. Most of the information available is contained in the below thread, including my update from earlier today when I called OnStar to get them to shut off reporting to LexisNexis.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...t-for-you.html And no, not activating OnStar doesn't do anything to help. |
Originally Posted by EvanZR1
(Post 1607589751)
You must set up your MyChevrolet account (either through chevrolet.com or the app) to turn off the Smart Driver, which is what monitors your driving and reports it to LexisNexis. Once you turn it off in the website/app, it will be turned off for any future GM cars you setup with your account. Beyond that, for me I'll pay for the App Access level so built-in Google Maps will be fully functional (plus it gives me a little redundancy as that uses AT&T signal vs my phones T-Mobile). Of course, it helps that I have 62K reward points that I can use to pay for that for several years. :D
Also, does anyone know where the actual OnStar module is located and how to access it? I tried youtoob to no avail but did find a couple of videos where you can physically unplug (the antenna I believe) directly from the circuit board. |
Originally Posted by astepup
(Post 1607591781)
Evan, I went to the site on two occasions and I can't locate where it is I can actually turn off Smart Driver. Anything I click on takes me to a place where they want me to sign up and promise my first born child to them. Any help you can give?
Also, does anyone know where the actual OnStar module is located and how to access it? I tried youtoob to no avail but did find a couple of videos where you can physically unplug (the antenna I believe) directly from the circuit board. |
Only two reasons I can think of to consider it. One, if you do a lot of driving by yourself in really remote areas, where the automatic accident notification might be a life saver if you have a bad crash. Two, you're prone to losing your keys. You could then keep a spare in the car (wrapped in foil), and contact OnStar (or use your phone app) to unlock your car remotely. (You can do that with the cheapest plan, btw.)
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Originally Posted by astepup
(Post 1607591781)
Evan, I went to the site on two occasions and I can't locate where it is I can actually turn off Smart Driver. Anything I click on takes me to a place where they want me to sign up and promise my first born child to them. Any help you can give?
Also, does anyone know where the actual OnStar module is located and how to access it? I tried youtoob to no avail but did find a couple of videos where you can physically unplug (the antenna I believe) directly from the circuit board. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...da749b87d5.png https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...aeef683141.png https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...4e4694e548.png https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...6a3006ffbd.png https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...a6d396d85b.png |
Originally Posted by Andybump
(Post 1607592647)
It is under the dash on the driver side. I cant find an illustration that clearly shows which connector is the antenna cable. As noted, it is functionally integrated with the vehicle systems.
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Originally Posted by NA Screamer
(Post 1607591648)
I've seen various threads on this. Did we decide you can do anything to prevent your data from being sent from the car to wherever it goes?
Does not activating OnStar do anything to help prevent data collection? https://www.gm.com/consumer-privacy |
Originally Posted by Korbek
(Post 1607592757)
Has anyone tried unplugging theirs? If the vehicle still functions with the onstar disabled that would be better than just turning it off on your account, becauae you KNOW theyre still collecting that data.
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Originally Posted by rawbar
(Post 1607593221)
Go get your free LexisNexis report and weep at the hundreds of records of your drives.
"Paranoia Will Destroy Ya!" |
I'm going the other direction. Everyone can have all the minutia they want about me. Then my information will be worthless since everyone already has it.
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Originally Posted by RKCRLR
(Post 1607593304)
I'm going the other direction. Everyone can have all the minutia they want about me. Then my information will be worthless since everyone already has it.
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Don't forget to deactivate the reporting services to LexisNexis even if you don't activate OnStar. Otherwise it will report ALL start times, turn off times, (in essence when you leave and return from your home) and every time it considers you to be engaged in hard acceleration and hard braking.
I verified this reporting was happening when I ordered my report from LexisNexis -- even though I didn't activate OnStar. And DESPITE what others here have argued with me about and told me I'm wrong, I reordered my report and VERIFIED that my vehicle information was NO LONGER BEING REPORTED after I stopped that reporting service. |
Originally Posted by astepup
(Post 1607591781)
Evan, I went to the site on two occasions and I can't locate where it is I can actually turn off Smart Driver. Anything I click on takes me to a place where they want me to sign up and promise my first born child to them. Any help you can give?
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Originally Posted by rawbar
(Post 1607593349)
Unless you drive like an old lady, your drive info won't be useless to your insurance company. They will be happy to raise your rates based on LN sharing your speed, hard brake, and acceleration events with them. Even without any proof it was actually you driving or any sort of context like if you were at a track.
And I wouldn't be surprised in the future (if not already happening) if insurance companies will provide discounts to people that have favorable reports from analytical databases (like LN) and not offer those discounts to those that have blocked reporting. Some people won't like that but I feel it is within the insurance company's rights. |
I'm going to take a moment to play devil's advocate as to the value of OnStar and relay a personal experience of mine. We were on a day road trip about a year ago. We stopped at a nice Mississippi River town for a stroll around town. While in a store I received a “OnStar: 22 Corvette Convertible theft alarm activated: Door/trunk/gate open….” alert on my phone. I quickly proceeded to the car which was about 3 minutes away. When I got back to the car there was a shady looking character lingering in the area who said that he only walked towards the vehicle and the alarm activated on it’s own but he didn’t touch a thing. The more he talked the more suspicious he became. Of course the car was and had been locked. The only thing I can think of was he had tried to open the door which activated the alarm. People downplay the value of OnStar, but it was definitely a nice to have product in this situation.
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Originally Posted by RKCRLR
(Post 1607593451)
I'm being a little facetious since I did turn off SmartDriver and LexisNexis reporting. But I'm not going to try to disable the system in my car. It's most of the other minutiae that I really don't care if someone knows about. I.e., it is worth it to me to allow Google to see where I go if they allow me to use their mapping system and real time traffic. If I don't like it I can choose not to use it.
And I wouldn't be surprised in the future (if not already happening) if insurance companies will provide discounts to people that have favorable reports from analytical databases (like LN) and not offer those discounts to those that have blocked reporting. Some people won't like that but I feel it is within the insurance company's rights. |
Go to your account in My Chevrolet and then open settings. That is where you can allow GM to send the Safe Driver info to a third party with special offers and discounts, yea right. I just checked to make sure mine was OFF.
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Originally Posted by Andybump
(Post 1607593557)
I wonder if they have data the relates the observed "events" to actual propensity for an accident or insurance claim? From reading all the complaints and concerns on the forum, and descriptions about how folks like to drive, it sounds us C8 owners are a rambunctious group of drivers. Does that make us unsafe - prone to more insurance claims? I'm not so sure. It would not surprise me if the opposite were true - we also sound like group that takes care of their cars. So, do those so-called hard braking and hard acceleration events actually have anything to do with insurance claims or highway safety? I think if they are going to use such data, they should be required to show that the data are relevant to the claims history.
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