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CSixDude 08-07-2011 10:24 PM

Value and worth is determined by what someone is willing to pay for something at any given time. When folks are waiting in line looking for a CRM Corvette, they will have to compete with the other buyers in the market that also want it. It drives up the price. Its simple economics.

If you don't believe it's true, go call any used Corvette dealer in the USA and ask them if they get more for CRM Corvettes than they do other colors.

saplumr 08-07-2011 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by Fred H. (Post 1578350237)
Value and worth is determined by what someone is willing to pay for something at any given time. When folks are waiting in line looking for a CRM Corvette, they will have to compete with the other buyers in the market that also want it. It drives up the price. Its simple economics.

If you don't believe it's true, go call any used Corvette dealer in the USA and ask them if they get more for CRM Corvettes than they do other colors.

They get more Black ones because they can sell them. Again you're right. Supply and demand....can't sell them...don't get them.

CSixDude 08-07-2011 10:28 PM

They get more black ones simply cause GM made more in that color. You can throw a rock and find a used black Corvette. Go try to find a used CRM or AO one.

saplumr 08-07-2011 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by Fred H. (Post 1578350278)
They get more black ones simply cause GM made more in that color. You can throw a rock and find a used black Corvette. Go try to find a used CRM or AO one.

So you think dealers don't order what they want and they just get what GM wants to send? Okidoke!

CSixDude 08-07-2011 10:34 PM

There is obviously no point in discussing this with you any further, cause you already believe you know everything about how color affects the selling price of a vehicle. I'm not wasting any more time here.

saplumr 08-07-2011 10:36 PM

Good choice for all.

need-for-speed 08-07-2011 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by laconiajack (Post 1578349444)
The way it is, is that Kelly Blue Book can't possibly take into account the effects of color on resale values, and therefore they don't even try because this info is not reported to them. Talk to the pros who attend and bid on used cars at auctions if you want the real lowdown.

:iagree:

Think about it. KBB is providing info on hundreds of car models. People here are giving them way to much credit for the amount of effort spent. They don't track sales of each car and each option. They assign a starting point by applying a value to options and then they pick a depreciation curve for that model and that is it. To think they spend countless man hours investigating whether or not F55 brings more than Z51 of whether black cars bring more than white cars is fantasy.

KBB is just a ball park number and nothing more. My opinion is not based on internet surfing. I actually sold my C5 here on the CForum and I can tell you that KBB did not know sh!t. According the them, an A4 was worth more than an MN6. What was in demand was Z51 and MN6 (which my car had). My car was in demand and very easy to sell.

It was much harder to sell C5's with auto tranny's in the used car market, and damn near every one wanted Z51 cars.

KBB got it wrong on both options.

saplumr 08-07-2011 10:52 PM

I agree. Dealers are going to say you can't go by KBB, NADA or Edmunds when it comes to accurate trade value but it does give you an idea of where you "hopefully" stand....give or take a little bit.

need-for-speed 08-07-2011 11:00 PM

Funny thing is that this thread is 3 pages long and no one has answered the OP's question. When I had my '79 Camaro painted, I learned a lot from the guy who owned the shop. Before he went out on his own, he ran the body shop at a Chevy dealership.

And NOW, to the OP's question: No - pearl is not the same thing as tint coat. The guy who painted my car referred to pearl as "sea shell" . It is the same thing as "mother of pearl" that you have seen elsewhere. Now what I do not know is if they use the real thing (ground up mother of pearl from sea shells), or if it is synthetic.

As Talon said, for GM, tint coat is color added to the clear coat and they do not add a step.

Another member mentioned the 3 step process:

three-stage paints (base coat, tint coat, clear coat)
.

He is partially correct in that that is how most body shops do it. They call them "candy colors" and they add a step to the process. However, GM does not. As one might expect, GM figured out a way to skip a step :lol: and still charge you extra :lol:

Now, what many may not know is that most of the new paints have some pearl in them. I had my '79 Camaro painted a factory GM color - it is Dark Blue Metallic - same as found on a 2004 (I think that's the right year model) Tahoe. And even though that was not considered a pearlescent paint - it does have some pearl in the recipe.

And that is the very reason I try to advise people who are restoring an old car to use a newer formulation. They often want to paint it "the same color as a 1960 something car". Big mistake - the newer recipes have much more depth and pop because of things like pearl, and possibly metallic flakes, that the old recipes did not have.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...aro5-09004.jpg

Swiftrider08 08-08-2011 07:18 PM

[QUOTE=need-for-speed;1578350561]Funny thing is that this thread is 3 pages long and no one has answered the OP's question. When I had my '79 Camaro painted, I learned a lot from the guy who owned the shop. Before he went out on his own, he ran the body shop at a Chevy dealership.

And NOW, to the OP's question: No - pearl is not the same thing as tint coat. The guy who painted my car referred to pearl as "sea shell" . It is the same thing as "mother of pearl" that you have seen elsewhere. Now what I do not know is if they use the real thing (ground up mother of pearl from sea shells), or if it is synthetic.

As Talon said, for GM, tint coat is color added to the clear coat and they do not add a step.

Another member mentioned the 3 step process:
.

He is partially correct in that that is how most body shops do it. They call them "candy colors" and they add a step to the process. However, GM does not. As one might expect, GM figured out a way to skip a step :lol: and still charge you extra :lol:

Now, what many may not know is that most of the new paints have some pearl in them. I had my '79 Camaro painted a factory GM color - it is Dark Blue Metallic - same as found on a 2004 (I think that's the right year model) Tahoe. And even though that was not considered a pearlescent paint - it does have some pearl in the recipe.

And that is the very reason I try to advise people who are restoring an old car to use a newer formulation. They often want to paint it "the same color as a 1960 something car". Big mistake - the newer recipes have much more depth and pop because of things like pearl, and possibly metallic flakes, that the old recipes did not have.




GM did not figure out anything, the paint companies did, and their paints are sold to all the manufacturers. The "pearl" typically shows up in the clearcoat, not the basecoat. These paints just simply cost more to produce. :cheers:

Your for sure are right about using the newer paints!

Swiftrider08 08-08-2011 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by talon90 (Post 1578349257)
Driven your Corvette to work yet Mike? :lol:

You're way past due for a visit down here. :yesnod:

I have driven it to work 3 times I think. The first time had to give a few rides and the last 2 times ended up with a crowd around and people speaking things I had no clue as to what they were saying! :lol: They do love it though and several know alot about the Corvette.

Waaaaaay past due for a trip down to BG!:cheers:

talon90 08-08-2011 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by Swiftrider08 (Post 1578358046)
I have driven it to work 3 times I think. The first time had to give a few rides and the last 2 times ended up with a crowd around and people speaking things I had no clue as to what they were saying! :lol: They do love it though and several know alot about the Corvette.

Waaaaaay past due for a trip down to BG!:cheers:

:rofl: That's funny. At least they appreciate it.

Knob Jockey 08-09-2011 02:23 AM

Regarding colors and how they relate to buyers........

You frequently hear "Resale Red" stated as being a positive contributing factor by the pros.

Licit 08-09-2011 02:31 AM


Originally Posted by Thrill6 (Post 1578339910)
They are all three-stage paints (base coat, tint coat, clear coat) vs. two-stage (base coat, clear coat). They cost more because it requires more steps and therefore higher manufacturing costs.

I found out when getting a new bumper painted that it is only base coat and clear coat except for when painted at the factory. I had a whole thread about it a while ago. My hood and bumper were a little off, I talked to my painter and the GM dealership and they both told me if you look in the glove box there is just bc/cc and no tintcoat.


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