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BlueOx 11-14-2013 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by Hirohawa (Post 1585428699)
I will admit you are constantly incorrect. You're like my senile nemesis.

Are you going to attack more people that have QC problems today. Tell another grown man that his peeling paint on his new C7 it is just plastic and that he is lying?

Deflection is your middle name.

CRABBYJ 11-14-2013 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by Hirohawa (Post 1585428655)
Is that a C7 fender? Not sure what part of the car you are showing.

So are you saying your panel is only slightly misaligned instead of majorly misaligned like all the ones I posted.

If so bust out the champagne!

Hey Dan, do you want to share that bottle of champagne? Maybe Hirohawa is buying.:thumbs::flag:

Not pefect, but only off by 1/16", naysayers will still bitxh!

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...psc96acc0f.jpg

No doubt about it, its mine. I'm satisfied, and the paint is good too.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...psdda07a3c.jpg

Hirohawa 11-14-2013 04:25 PM

Love that color.

But that bumper is still off. Not as bad as others that have been brought to light, but still wrong. Is close enough really OK with you?

Panels are either lined up or they aren't, 1/16" or 1/4" is unacceptable in this day and age on a new car. Especially at such a visible juncture at the wheel well. It's not even hidden at all. Such a bad design, engineering idea to put that cut line there if they could not execute the transition seamlessly. I'm sure that's why they avoided it on, I think, every previous Corvette.

That would drive me crazy.

CRABBYJ 11-14-2013 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by Hirohawa (Post 1585429952)
Love that color.

But that bumper is still off. Not as bad as others that have been brought to light, but still wrong. Is close enough really OK with you?

Panels are either lined up or they aren't, 1/16" or 1/4" is unacceptable in this day and age on a new car. Especially at such a visible juncture at the wheel well. It's not even hidden at all. Such a bad design, engineering idea to put that cut line there if they could not execute the transition seamlessly. I'm sure that's why they avoided it on, I think, every previous Corvette.

That would drive me crazy.

It appears that it has, but do you even own a C7 or Corvette for that matter? I truly feel sorry for you if you use this minor issue to keep you from experiencing such an exceptional sports car at a great MSRP. And discounts are already out there with more to come as dealer inventory climbs and the snow flies. What car do you drive that is so perfect may I ask?:flag:

Hirohawa 11-14-2013 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by CRABBYJ (Post 1585430063)
It appears that it has, but do you even own a C7 or Corvette for that matter? I truly feel sorry for you if you use this minor issue to keep you from experiencing such an exceptional sports car at a great MSRP. And discounts are already out there with more to come as dealer inventory climbs and the snow flies. What car do you drive that is so perfect may I ask?:flag:

You may ask.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...IMG_1279-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...a/IMG_1277.jpg

Bought it new, from out of state sight unseen. Would never do that with a C7. Currently thinking of buying a C7 Hi-Po Z06 if they can iron out these glaring QC issues and clean up the busy rear end. If not more than happy with my old, obsolete, outdated 427 Z06. Or might pick up a 2013 ZR1 on the cheap.

I don't see panel fitment as a minor issue. I see it as acceptable or unacceptable. I would not accept that type of variation even from an aftermarket body part much less OEM factory part.

We all win if we demand a better product from GM. I hope people can see that as not trolling or hating or whatever the dujour term is. If we accept mediocrity from GM they have a great track record of accommodating.

Parker Corvette 11-14-2013 04:53 PM

CrabbyJ I assume that blue car is your new C6.5. Doesn't Corvette drill the rotors anymore? Also is that the standard wheel? Even my base Boxster has drilled rotors.

Hirohawa 11-14-2013 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by BlueOx (Post 1585428733)
Deflection is your middle name.

No…

Danger is my middle name.

Slappy3243 11-14-2013 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by Hirohawa (Post 1585430125)
You may ask.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...IMG_1279-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...a/IMG_1277.jpg

Bought it new, from out of state sight unseen. Would never do that with a C7. Currently thinking of buying a C7 Hi-Po Z06 if they can iron out these glaring QC issues and clean up the busy rear end. If not more than happy with my old, obsolete, outdated 427 Z06. Or might pick up a 2013 ZR1 on the cheap.

I don't see panel fitment as a minor issue. I see it as acceptable or unacceptable. I would not accept that type of variation even from an aftermarket body part much less OEM factory part.

We all win if we demand a better product from GM. I hope people can see that as not trolling or hating or whatever the dujour term is. If we accept mediocrity from GM they have a great track record of accommodating.

You have the high resolution of those pictures and any other close-ups of where the panels meet?

texvette2 11-14-2013 05:25 PM

Can see the paint with runs, scratches, missed sections. But the gaps don't look
that much different than been seeing for years in gm cars. Maybe the
photos don't show what the eye can see. When a car stop in traffic or locks up
on you, electricals quit working, then you have a big concern. Mass produced
Chevy's are just going to have a few panels off here and there

CRABBYJ 11-14-2013 05:25 PM

Hirohawa, that is one good looking Z06. :thumbs: Obviously not a first year 2005 C6. I'd say that is a keeper until the Hi-Po C7's arrive and hopefully you're satisfied with the build quality.

I've only ever ordered one car from the factory in almost fifty years and that was my '05 C6. All the panel fits were perfect except the driver's side door in the front. The spec was a 40mm gap and it was, but the rear gap was only 30mm. Both gaps on the passanger door was also 30mm. It stood out like a sore thumb but I soon got over it as the crank bolt issue drew my attention. Evenually I adjusted that door panel.

Bottom line is you're posting tactics will only give you a bad reputation with those of us not demanding absolute perfection in a +20k/year factory built sports car. Save that for the truly big issues.

We do love our Corvettes flaws and all. :flag:

BlueOx 11-14-2013 05:28 PM

2013 Boxster...HUGE GAPS!!! I'm gonna be sick!!!:ack:
http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/...ps50d0dccd.jpg
http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7d2d09c4.jpg
http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/...psddf842ed.jpg
http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1a33e827.jpg
http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/...psa01b52c5.jpg

Hirohawa 11-14-2013 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by Slappy3243 (Post 1585430285)
You have the high resolution of those pictures and any other close-ups of where the panels meet?

Why is there an ongoing major problem where a cut line was put where two different materials join and is misaligned in a very pronounced manner and a significant percentage of C6s have this as a reported issue?

I am sure google might have one or two pics from the 150,000+ C6s made. Try there.

Slappy3243 11-14-2013 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by Hirohawa (Post 1585430429)
Why is there an ongoing major problem where a cut line was put where two different materials join and is misaligned in a very pronounced manner and a significant percentage of C6s have this as a reported issue?

I am sure google might have one or two pics from the 150,000+ C6s made. Try there.

No. I would like to see some high resolution pictures of your vehicle. You crave perfection so I would like to see pictures of your perfect C6. Why not?

Hirohawa 11-14-2013 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by CRABBYJ (Post 1585430399)
Hirohawa, that is one good looking Z06. :thumbs: Obviously not a first year 2005 C6. I'd say that is a keeper until the Hi-Po C7's arrive and hopefully you're satisfied with the build quality.

I've only ever ordered one car from the factory in almost fifty years and that was my '05 C6. All the panel fits were perfect except the driver's side door in the front. The spec was a 40mm gap and it was, but the rear gap was only 30mm. Both gaps on the passanger door was also 30mm. It stood out like a sore thumb but I soon got over it as the crank bolt issue drew my attention. Evenually I adjusted that door panel.

Bottom line is you're posting tactics will only give you a bad reputation with those of us not demanding absolute perfection in a +20k/year factory built sports car. Save that for the truly big issues.

We do love our Corvettes flaws and all. :flag:

I already have a bad reputation here. I started off respectful

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...ng-for-me.html

And got fanboy clowns hurling insults and general garbage because I was critical of one bumper on a design I generally really like.

I agree Corvette's have never been perfect but they have improved greatly over the years - I have owned from the last three vintages C4, C5, C6. The new C7 is stunning and performs like a beast - but there are things that need to be improved - think we can also agree on that too.

Enjoy your car Laguna Blue might tempt me away from Cyber grey one day.

:cheers:

Hirohawa 11-14-2013 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by Slappy3243 (Post 1585430449)
No. I would like to see some high resolution pictures of your vehicle. You crave perfection so I would like to see pictures of your perfect C6. Why not?

Not going to happen buddy. I don't take requests. Go do your own homework, or ask mommy to help.

There are over one hundred thousand C6s built. Go find me a few dozen examples like the C7s posted here in the last few weeks with mis aligned panels.

Slappy3243 11-14-2013 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by Hirohawa (Post 1585430536)
Not going to happen buddy. I don't take requests. Go do your own homework, or ask mommy to help.

There are over one hundred thousand C6s built. Go find me a few dozen examples like the C7s posted here in the last few weeks with mis aligned panels.

Oh the irony is just amazing! A perfectionist who puts down the C7 all day over panel gaps won't even show us pictures of the panels on his own C6! That makes my day :rofl:.

Hirohawa 11-14-2013 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by Slappy3243 (Post 1585430546)
Oh the irony is just amazing! A perfectionist who puts down the C7 all day over panel gaps won't even show us pictures of the panels on his own C6! That makes my day :rofl:.

I posted two pics. That is more than enough for you.

Irony is you you having posted five (5!) separate threads about your own QC problems in your 4 week old C7. And you label me a perfectionist:lol: You do know what irony means don't you?

You can't make this stuff up.

Thanks - that makes my day! :yesnod:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...s-nothing.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...ve-it-now.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...targa-top.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...es-so-far.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...rl-easily.html




Edit: Sorry you posted 5 threads with problems not three. No wonder you are so angry. I would be too. I actually kinda feel bad for you and hope you get these myriad of issues worked out. Not really sure why you are so quick to defend GM though.
:cheers:

Slappy3243 11-14-2013 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by Hirohawa (Post 1585430768)
I posted two pics. That is more than enough for you.

Irony is you you having posted five (5!) separate threads about your own QC problems in your 4 week old C7. And you label me a perfectionist:lol: You do know what irony means don't you?

You can't make this stuff up.

Thanks - that makes my day! :yes nod:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...s-nothing.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...ve-it-now.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...targa-top.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...es-so-far.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...rl-easily.html




Edit: Sorry you posted 5 threads with problems not three. No wonder you are so angry. I would be too.

I am honest with myself. I know the car isn't perfect so I make honest threads about any issues I may have. I don't cover anything up and pretend nothing is wrong! That shows I don't have a bias if anything.


You showed us two grainy and low resolution pictures of your car. Lets see some close-ups! I always wanted to see a perfect C6 and based on the criteria set forth by your own admissions, you would accept nothing less. Bring on the pictures! :rofl:

DanTheFireman 11-14-2013 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by Hirohawa (Post 1585428655)
Is that a C7 fender? Not sure what part of the car you are showing.

So are you saying your panel is only slightly misaligned instead of majorly misaligned like all the ones I posted.

If so bust out the champagne! GM nailed it!

Hiro, my pic is the same area you are showing in your pics. You said there are 1/4" misalignments, mine are more like 1/32". My C6Z had plenty of disparity of the junctions between parts, I chose to get into something newer with a warranty instead of sinking $$ into heads, interior etc. and still having the older model.

Slappy3243 11-14-2013 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by DanTheFireman (Post 1585430917)
Hiro, my pic is the same area you are showing in your pics. You said there are 1/4" misalignments, mine are more like 1/32". My C6Z had plenty of disparity of the junctions between parts, I chose to get into something newer with a warranty instead of sinking $$ into heads, interior etc. and still having the older model.

Perhaps that is why he is refusing to show high resolution or close-up shots of his perfect C6?


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