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ssmith512 04-12-2010 09:44 AM

RadioFlyer's SLC's (Stealth Light Cannon Fixed Headlights)
 
Well here they are. For anyone on the fence about these, get off the fence and get them! The light output is fantastic and the look is even better. Mine are finished in Electron Blue to match the car (they look MUCH MUCH better in person as the camera simply wont pick up the color very well). Just got these back and threw them on the car real quick to get some pics. A few minor alignment adjustments and they will be all set. The perfect fixed light option for the C5 period.

http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/q...DSC_0249-1.jpg
http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/DSC_0247.jpg
http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/DSC_0248.jpg
http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/q...DSC_0253-1.jpg
http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/DSC_0251.jpg

casisthefirst 04-12-2010 10:02 AM

Looks pretty good...

How easy was the install?

DropTheTop 04-12-2010 10:10 AM

:thumbs: They look very nice!

I believe you'd need a polarizing lens on the camera, to cancel out the lens haze.

ssmith512 04-12-2010 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by casisthefirst (Post 1573731663)
How easy was the install?

For me it was very easy.

BenC5 04-12-2010 11:00 AM

So very, very awesome!

I only wish that TheRadioFlyer did not put out the Light Cannons first as I would have gladly bought the SLC's.

I can only imagine the output at night.

peter pan 04-12-2010 01:22 PM

Very nice new lookhttp://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...smileycool.gif

tail_lights 04-12-2010 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by peter pan (Post 1573733904)

:iagree: :thumbs:

AU Eagle 04-12-2010 02:18 PM

Looks good, not my thing though. The reason I was attracted to the C5 was the hidden headlight.

:cheers:

TheRadioFlyer97 04-12-2010 03:07 PM

Very nice.

I'm curious what paint type your shop used on the shrouds.

De_Vette 04-12-2010 03:24 PM

:cheers:

ssmith512 04-12-2010 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by TheRadioFlyer (Post 1573734997)
Very nice.

I'm curious what paint type your shop used on the shrouds.

It was blue paint. Electron Blue to be exact. :rofl:

I'll find out.

ssmith512 04-12-2010 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by BenC5 (Post 1573732241)
So very, very awesome!

I only wish that TheRadioFlyer did not put out the Light Cannons first as I would have gladly bought the SLC's.

I can only imagine the output at night.

I went from "couldnt see the side of a barn" to "OMG who let the sun out at night!!" A DRAMATIC increase in night time visibility. That alone is worth the price of admission for me.

turbocrazy 04-12-2010 09:09 PM

They look awesome. :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:
Wish I could afford them. :(:(:leaving:

209TIME!!! 04-12-2010 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by turbocrazy (Post 1573739109)
They look awesome. :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:
Wish I could afford them. :(:(:leaving:



That seems to be the words echoing around the forums :(

blkchipC5 04-12-2010 10:13 PM

Congrats! Looks very nice!:thumbs: Just wish I could afford em'

Cozmo 04-12-2010 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by peter pan (Post 1573733904)

:withstupid:


Originally Posted by ssmith512 (Post 1573735623)
It was blue paint. Electron Blue to be exact. :rofl:

I'll find out.

:rofl:

TheRadioFlyer97 04-12-2010 11:18 PM


Originally Posted by 209TIME!!! (Post 1573739372)
That seems to be the words echoing around the forums :(

I wish Hella had more of those projector I used. If i could make 20-30 sets at a time, i could drop the price down, but given Hella's small production of these projectors since their introduction, supply is very limited.

Stealth_Inc 04-12-2010 11:21 PM

Can't wait for my set :)... my pop ups are all screwed up lol.

melvingregory 04-14-2010 09:35 PM

Stealth Projectors and Shrouds Painted
 
Here's the projectors and shrouds painted quick silver on my convertible. Alot of work on prep was needed on the shrouds and projectors. You will note I rounded the projectors and cleaned up the edges on them. Does anyone know what I can use on the underside of the lexan covers to smooth them out. With the light color in direct sunlight you can see the bubbles/excess material showing up as spots when you stand up close to them.
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/8069/cimg0419.jpg
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TheRadioFlyer97 04-14-2010 10:16 PM

Wow, i'm impressed. And those were the prototype shrouds too!

The lenses are made from PETG which is similar in construction to polycarbonate but forms better. I would not reccomend any abrasivee technique on the lens. The best you could do is use clearcoat on the lens to make it optically perfect.

did you swap out the high beam for an aftermarket bulb? looks blue to me

melvingregory 04-14-2010 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by TheRadioFlyer (Post 1573762872)
Wow, i'm impressed. And those were the prototype shrouds too!

The lenses are made from PETG which is similar in construction to polycarbonate but forms better. I would not reccomend any abrasivee technique on the lens. The best you could do is use clearcoat on the lens to make it optically perfect.

did you swap out the high beam for an aftermarket bulb? looks blue to me

Hi George,
No remember I picked up a set of "production shrouds" from you also. That's what I used for the final setup and finishing. I had started on the preproduction shrouds, and it was going to take too much work to rework them. As it was I had to use some plastic filler on the back side of these in a few places because when leveling the surface it got thin in those spots.

On the lenses, they have bubbles/bumps on the inside of them. If you hold them at an angle you will see the excess material in the lenses. And, when in direct sunlight the bubbles/bumps show up as shadows or spots on the painted shrouds. Doesn't make any difference I can tell on use. You wouldn't notice it on a dark color, but I bet the people who bought the white ones can see and comment on what I am seeing. Clearcoat wouldn't anything correct that.

On the high beams I am using 6000k HID (9005/HB3's) in place of the bulbs you included in the kit. The reason they showed up blue before I remounted frames was that I had some old bulbs laying around that I used in the lights while painting them to make sure I didn't get any paint inside the projectors. Did you notice I also painted the frames black to match the fenders and such.

tslick98 04-14-2010 11:40 PM

Looks great:thumbs:. Can't wait to get mine.

Stealth_Inc 04-15-2010 09:10 AM

Wow MelvinGregory, those look great! You just gave me a great idea as well haha. Good job!

melvingregory 04-15-2010 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by Stealth_Inc (Post 1573765632)
Wow MelvinGregory, those look great! You just gave me a great idea as well haha. Good job!

If you need your shrouds prepped and painted factory color, I will do them for $250.00 plus shipping. It takes a good 16 - 20 hours from start to finish to do them properly. There are some low spots in the shrouds that I had to use plastic filler to reinforce the back side of them before I skinned the the tops. I also painted the interior console and dash to match my waterfall in my convertible.

Melvin

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/4089/cimg0335.jpg
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TheRadioFlyer97 04-15-2010 10:11 AM

melvingregory: how did the rigidity of the finished shrouds affect installation?

I'm running an SLC GP2 right now. I'm sure there are a bunch of guys that wouldn't mind having their parts prepped prior to install. Feel free to post on my GP2 threads with your results.

melvingregory 04-15-2010 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by TheRadioFlyer (Post 1573766255)
melvingregory: how did the rigidity of the finished shrouds affect installation?

I'm running an SLC GP2 right now. I'm sure there are a bunch of guys that wouldn't mind having their parts prepped prior to install. Feel free to post on my GP2 threads with your results.

Hi George, no issues with that, you simply need to use a flexible plastic filler (if there is such a thing) and prep the surface to hold it. You cannot put it on too thick as the shrouds could touch the covers if you do. Also, I forgot to mention I use a flexiable primer that I use on motorcycles and bumpers when painting them. Drying time is very important between coats. And I do use plenty of clearcoat.

sean.b 05-28-2010 04:05 PM

anybody have pics of how they wedged the black under-carriage plastic part in with the lens cover? i bent a little of the black part now trying to figure out how to get this to fit. did you guys take the front bumper cover off?

melvingregory 05-28-2010 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by sean.b (Post 1574216870)
anybody have pics of how they wedged the black under-carriage plastic part in with the lens cover? i bent a little of the black part now trying to figure out how to get this to fit. did you guys take the front bumper cover off?

Hello, You shouldn't have to wedge anything under. The black shroud mounts on top of the existing body panels. You can see my pictures of the installation I have posted before on the forum. The included instructions are fairly straight forward. The installation on a black car does not clearly show how it is mounted. as a light color would.

tslick98 06-20-2010 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by ssmith512 (Post 1573731509)
Well here they are. For anyone on the fence about these, get off the fence and get them! The light output is fantastic and the look is even better. Mine are finished in Electron Blue to match the car (they look MUCH MUCH better in person as the camera simply wont pick up the color very well). Just got these back and threw them on the car real quick to get some pics. A few minor alignment adjustments and they will be all set. The perfect fixed light option for the C5 period.


http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/q...DSC_0253-1.jpg
http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/q...2/DSC_0251.jpg

Wow, yours sure look better than mine. As you can see in my pics the fit and finish is pretty awful. The were installed by the designer. How did you get yours that flush.

http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/a...Picture4-1.jpg

http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/a...8/Picture6.jpg

You'll notice the edges, housing the light, are jagged. Inside the oval you can see bubbles in the lenses. Hard to catch with the camera, but when the sun shines on them, you can see that the bubbles are every where on both sides.
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/a...Picture1-1.jpg

Here you can see a huge gap left from the shroud.
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/a...8/Picture3.jpg

I had to paint the inside lip of the lense to try and hide the gap.
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/a...8/Picture5.jpg

Overall i'm pretty disapointed with the quality of the lights, especially for what they cost. I'm considering putting the stock lights back on. I doubt if i could sell them though. This is in no way ment to speak poorly of the designer. Just sharing my experience.

melvingregory 06-20-2010 10:32 AM

tslick98, I had the same issues on fitting the shrouds. Too much material was removed on the sides, exposing the sides. As you may have noticed my pictures earlier in the post, they look good now. It required about sixteen hours of body work to get a product I was comfortable with on my car. The bubbles in the lexan are much more noticeable on our light colored cars. I don't what we could do to fix that, but I am okay with that defect, not happy, but okay. If you would like to have your shrouds worked into a better product. I can work the shrouds get them looking like mine for $250.00 plus shipping. Overall the lights gave me the light I wanted at night driving and after the body and paint work gave me a better product than I orginially got. I take someone effort in doing this one off item with a grain of sand and work with it. If radioflyer had stayed with this product he would had to develop a much cleaner mold to continue developing the product and I am sure that would have run his costs up more.

tslick98 06-20-2010 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by melvingregory (Post 1574451918)
tslick98, I had the same issues on fitting the shrouds. Too much material was removed on the sides, exposing the sides. As you may have noticed my pictures earlier in the post, they look good now. It required about sixteen hours of body work to get a product I was comfortable with on my car. The bubbles in the lexan are much more noticeable on our light colored cars. I don't what we could do to fix that, but I am okay with that defect, not happy, but okay. If you would like to have your shrouds worked into a better product. I can work the shrouds get them looking like mine for $250.00 plus shipping. Overall the lights gave me the light I wanted at night driving and after the body and paint work gave me a better product than I orginially got. I take someone effort in doing this one off item with a grain of sand and work with it. If radioflyer had stayed with this product he would had to develop a much cleaner mold to continue developing the product and I am sure that would have run his costs up more.

Thanks so much for the offer. The shop here in houston, that specializes in painting corvettes, had to do a lot of filling on the shrouds just to get them looking as good as they do, wich cost me $300. Looking back i should have taken the car to them after the install so they'd have had a better idea what they were working with. I may see about getting another set of shrouds and let you work your magic, or just go back to stock and try to sell them. I've just poored so much money into them already.
Thanks again.

sean.b 06-20-2010 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by melvingregory (Post 1574451918)
tslick98, I had the same issues on fitting the shrouds. Too much material was removed on the sides, exposing the sides. As you may have noticed my pictures earlier in the post, they look good now. It required about sixteen hours of body work to get a product I was comfortable with on my car. The bubbles in the lexan are much more noticeable on our light colored cars. I don't what we could do to fix that, but I am okay with that defect, not happy, but okay. If you would like to have your shrouds worked into a better product. I can work the shrouds get them looking like mine for $250.00 plus shipping. Overall the lights gave me the light I wanted at night driving and after the body and paint work gave me a better product than I orginially got. I take someone effort in doing this one off item with a grain of sand and work with it. If radioflyer had stayed with this product he would had to develop a much cleaner mold to continue developing the product and I am sure that would have run his costs up more.

how long does it take you to do this? i was thinking of visiting a buddy in IN, and im in AL, so I could potentially stop by..

Darion 06-20-2010 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by sean.b (Post 1574452981)
how long does it take you to do this? i was thinking of visiting a buddy in IN, and im in AL, so I could potentially stop by..

I think he said it would take about 16 to 20 hours.:eek: Alot of time for $250.

Darion

:flag:

melvingregory 06-20-2010 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by sean.b (Post 1574452981)
how long does it take you to do this? i was thinking of visiting a buddy in IN, and im in AL, so I could potentially stop by..

Well, it takes me at least good weekend to do them... I still have a real job that I work at during the week... I could loan you a set of preproduction shrouds that I got from Radio Flyer, that are black... that I used to test fit my set... I'm also getting ready for show mid July and I have my 98 all apart in the garage right now... finishing this weekend the engine bay and then I've got the front bumper off and front fenders getting ready to prep them for paint. Doing some custom carbon fiber painting on engine parts and am going to do something similiar to the coves.

sean.b 06-20-2010 02:11 PM

yea, thats a good chunk of time for $250 sure enough.

i have other cars i can drive and im usually out of town all week anyway, but i think im gonna take you up on that offer. lemme figure out my schedule and ill be in touch! :cheers:

melvingregory 06-20-2010 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by sean.b (Post 1574453772)
yea, thats a good chunk of time for $250 sure enough.

i have other cars i can drive and im usually out of town all week anyway, but i think im gonna take you up on that offer. lemme figure out my schedule and ill be in touch! :cheers:

No problem, I have two corvettes so I am always tinkering with one of them. Wife thinks I should just sell them both and buy a C6, but I haven't gotten tired the C5's yet, plus they have been paid for for a long time and I like the idea of no car payment. Plus I have garage space for them and my motorcycles.

jdmvette 06-20-2010 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by tslick98 (Post 1574450700)
Wow, yours sure look better than mine. As you can see in my pics the fit and finish is pretty awful. The were installed by the designer. How did you get yours that flush.

http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/a...Picture4-1.jpg

http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/a...8/Picture6.jpg

You'll notice the edges, housing the light, are jagged. Inside the oval you can see bubbles in the lenses. Hard to catch with the camera, but when the sun shines on them, you can see that the bubbles are every where on both sides.
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/a...Picture1-1.jpg

Here you can see a huge gap left from the shroud.
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/a...8/Picture3.jpg

I had to paint the inside lip of the lense to try and hide the gap.
http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/a...8/Picture5.jpg

Overall i'm pretty disapointed with the quality of the lights, especially for what they cost. I'm considering putting the stock lights back on. I doubt if i could sell them though. This is in no way ment to speak poorly of the designer. Just sharing my experience.

:ack:

that sucks! hope yours turn out better after they're reworked.

wrieck 06-23-2010 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by jdmvette (Post 1574454710)
:ack:

that sucks! hope yours turn out better after they're reworked.

:iagree:
For the price you paid, these lights shouldn't have required that much work -- glad I followed my gut and passed on them. Hope things are made right for you - they should be, some how. All the best :thumbs:.


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