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BlueDevilZ51 04-05-2015 09:53 PM

C7 race ramps clearance?
 
Im just wondering if these race ramps will have any clearance issues with a C7?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/bti-rr-40/overview/

I saw others but these looked like a pretty good deal.

BlueDevilZ51 04-05-2015 10:07 PM

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/bti-rr-56/reviews

These seem to have a better approach angle.

Fred@ReverseLogic 04-05-2015 11:00 PM

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The RR-40 are too steep and too narrow for a C7.

Do the simple yardstick test to determine whether you need the 10.8 degree ramps or the 6.8 degree ramps.


Originally Posted by BlueDevilZ51 (Post 1589353410)
Im just wondering if these race ramps will have any clearance issues with a C7?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/bti-rr-40/overview/

I saw others but these looked like a pretty good deal.


BlueDevilZ51 04-06-2015 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Fred@ReverseLogic (Post 1589353868)
The RR-40 are too steep and too narrow for a C7.

Do the simple yardstick test to determine whether you need the 10.8 degree ramps or the 6.8 degree ramps.

Hoping these work.
http://m.summitracing.com/parts/bti-rr-56/none/images
but I'll definitely use that yard stick formula before buying. .thanks

Fred@ReverseLogic 04-06-2015 01:37 PM

Very few customers order the one-piece version of the 56" or 67" ramps. The two-piece model is easier to transport and allows side access.

Reverse Logic models RLL-72-2, RLL-80-2, and RLL-87-2 include an integrated XTender and will definitely provide adequate car-to-ramp clearance.

http://www.reverselogic.us/shop.html...0&sort=nameAsc


Originally Posted by BlueDevilZ51 (Post 1589356817)
Hoping these work.
http://m.summitracing.com/parts/bti-rr-56/none/images
but I'll definitely use that yard stick formula before buying. .thanks


BlueDevilZ51 04-06-2015 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by Fred@ReverseLogic (Post 1589357349)
Very few customers order the one-piece version of the 56" or 67" ramps. The two-piece model is easier to transport and allows side access.

Reverse Logic models RLL-72-2, RLL-80-2, and RLL-87-2 include an integrated XTender and will definitely provide adequate car-to-ramp clearance.

http://www.reverselogic.us/shop.html...0&sort=nameAsc

Thanks Fred, I'm going to look into some of the ramps on your site. I have a question about that yard stick formula to figure out approach angle. I'm just a little confused where to take the vertical measurement from. The very end of the elevated side of the yard stick or where the yard stick makes contact with the nose of the car??

Fred@ReverseLogic 04-06-2015 02:00 PM

At the very end of the stick. Once people realize that the 10.8 degree ramps are about 7.25" high at the 36" mark and the 6.8 degree incline ramps are about 5" high at the 36" mark, it's easier to visualize why these vertical height measurements make sense.


Originally Posted by BlueDevilZ51 (Post 1589357436)
Thanks Fred, I'm going to look into some of the ramps on your site. I have a question about that yard stick formula to figure out approach angle. I'm just a little confused where to take the vertical measurement from. The very end of the elevated side of the yard stick or where the yard stick makes contact with the nose of the car??


BlueDevilZ51 04-06-2015 02:02 PM

Ok.. thanks

StingRaycer 04-06-2015 02:22 PM

I bought the two piece race ramps and added the extenderz which makes the entry very easy and very gradual. The two piece ramps allow removal of the ramp once the car is up and this allows much easier access to certain areas behind the front wheels. Just don't forget to put them back before you back off of the ramp or it will be a youtube moment and instant fame for you.

Fred@ReverseLogic 04-06-2015 04:43 PM

The XTenders are a good option if you already own the 10.8 degree ramps and have to adapt the ramps to work with a car that has a lower approach angle. But, if you know you need the 6.8 degree incline of the XTender ramps when you are making the initial ramp purchase, then the 2-stage incline ramps (models RLL-72-2, RLL-80-2, or RLl-87-2) make more sense. They are more convenient to use and store, not to mention more economical.


Originally Posted by StingRaycer (Post 1589357636)
I bought the two piece race ramps and added the extenderz which makes the entry very easy and very gradual. The two piece ramps allow removal of the ramp once the car is up and this allows much easier access to certain areas behind the front wheels. Just don't forget to put them back before you back off of the ramp or it will be a youtube moment and instant fame for you.


corvettecop 04-06-2015 04:47 PM

I have the Race Ramps RR-XT-2 67-Inch XT 2-Piece Race Ramps and they work fine.


BOBSZ06 04-06-2015 04:50 PM


Product Dimensions 29.9 x 11.8 x 4.3 inches

I choose this one since I have a low profile floor jack. It will not reach far enough however to raise my Z06 (6" clearance).

This allows me to get the car elevated another 4.3" and now the jack reaches fine.
No issue with clearance as it is only 4.3".

C7-Beast 04-11-2015 10:45 PM

I must be doing something wrong. Using the yardstick test, even with the stage 1 Z06 splitter, I show 11 inches with the yardstick against the tire and hitting the bottom of the spoiler measuring up from the floor to the yardstick.

ap6954 04-11-2015 11:46 PM

Barely makes it
 
I have the two piece 67" (RR XT 2 67) Ramps and they BARELY clear the Lashway front splitter. My car has not been lowered at all. Any lower or any more aggressive splitter and I would need the extenders to lower the approach angle.

Fred@ReverseLogic 04-12-2015 12:02 AM

Do you have the yardstick up against the inboard edge of the tire or against the outboard edge? You should wedge it against the inboard edge towards the centerline of the car where the splitter is further out front. Don't forget that the ramps are 14" wide.



Originally Posted by Mike02Z (Post 1589396857)
I must be doing something wrong. Using the yardstick test, even with the stage 1 Z06 splitter, I show 11 inches with the yardstick against the tire and hitting the bottom of the spoiler measuring up from the floor to the yardstick.


C7-Beast 04-12-2015 12:37 AM


Originally Posted by Fred@ReverseLogic (Post 1589397219)
Do you have the yardstick up against the inboard edge of the tire or against the outboard edge? You should wedge it against the inboard edge towards the centerline of the car where the splitter is further out front. Don't forget that the ramps are 14" wide.

Thanks Fred. I was measuring from the direct center of the wheel. I went back and still have 8.5 from the inside tire so it looks like the 10.8 degree ramps would be fine.

I went with the 8.5 degree just to be sure.

I would have purchased from you Fred as a always like to support our forum vendors but Amazon had 0% for 12 months and 10% "click and save" coupon's for the ramps, cribs, and chocks with 2 day Prime delivery. I also picked up a decent jack





Fred@ReverseLogic 04-12-2015 01:13 AM

Regular price at Reverse Logic for RR-80-10-2, RR-WC-10, and RR-WC-4 is $408 + 102 + $59 = $569 less "SAVE10" coupon code = $512.10

Regular price for same three items at Amazon is $418.05 + $101.65 + $60.08 = $579.78 less Click and Save = $521.80 or $10 more than RLL.

We offer no payments and no interest for 6 months using PayPal Credit.

If you would have ordered from RLL I would have pointed out that you get one pair of wheel chocks with the Q2 2015 factory rebate, so you could have saved another $30 by purchasing only two wheel chocks.

Amazon is clearly the biggest Race Ramps reseller and they have a reputation for offering the lowest price, even if their price is higher.


Originally Posted by Mike02Z (Post 1589397341)
...I would have purchased from you Fred as a always like to support our forum vendors but Amazon had 0% for 12 months and 10% "click and save" coupon's for the ramps, cribs, and chocks with 2 day Prime delivery. I also picked up a decent jack


JerryU 04-12-2015 01:22 AM


Originally Posted by ap6954 (Post 1589397169)
I have the two piece 67" (RR XT 2 67) Ramps and they BARELY clear the Lashway front splitter. My car has not been lowered at all. Any lower or any more aggressive splitter and I would need the extenders to lower the approach angle.

I gave up on ramps when I got my C6 and needed clearance for my large jack with a cross brace to use the front and rear cradle jacking points. Even long, low height ramps slipped! In fact gave them away to someone who needed to get their car up on grass! For less money and more secure I purchased two low cost ($60 each) low profile, light weight hydraulic jacks and with 2 jack pads and have all the room needed. For an oil change, brake pad change, or tire removal don’t even need my large jack with cross brace, I just raise up both sides high enough to slip jack stands under front or rear cradle preferred jacking points.

C7-Beast 04-12-2015 01:32 AM


Originally Posted by Fred@ReverseLogic (Post 1589397434)
Regular price at Reverse Logic for RR-80-10-2, RR-WC-10, and RR-WC-4 is $408 + 102 + $59 = $569 less "SAVE10" coupon code = $512.10

Regular price for same three items at Amazon is $418.05 + $101.65 + $60.08 = $579.78 less Click and Save = $521.80 or $10 more than RLL.

We offer no payments and no interest for 6 months using PayPal Credit.

If you would have ordered from RLL I would have pointed out that you get one pair of wheel chocks with the Q2 2015 factory rebate, so you could have saved another $30 by purchasing only two wheel chocks.

Amazon is clearly the biggest Race Ramps reseller and they have a reputation for offering the lowest price, even if their price is higher.

Fred, I really don't want PayPal financing and 0% for 6 months is different than 0% for 12 moths. I'll also have everything here by Weds. I had a 200.00 Amazon gift card from Christmas and already have an Amazon card. To pay off in 12 months is only 43.48 per month (including the Amazon GC, 26.82 per month). As opposed to 85.35 a month for 6 months with another company I don't really trust (PayPal).

No offense, I just needed to get the best deal. I know you offer good prices. Sometimes the financing is the thing I need to make it worth it. Otherwise I wait until I have cash as I don't have credit card debt unless it's at 0%. I also got a good jack for that 0% for 12 months as well :cheers:

I also have other uses in mind for the ramps. To use to load into a trailer, These should work great for that.

Fred@ReverseLogic 04-12-2015 07:54 AM

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No offense taken. Orders for the RR-80-10-2 ramps are the one model I hate to lose to Amazon. This combo service/trailer ramp design was inspired by the RLL-80-2 ramp I introduced at the beginning of 2013. It was the single most successful ramp model at the Corvettes at Carlisle Show that Summer. So much so, that Race Ramps added the slightly taller and steeper RR-80-10-2 ramp to its product line at the end of 2013.

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to dispel the myth that Amazon is the place to get the lowest prices on Race Ramps. And to point out that Reverse Logic is the place to get the best combination of price, expert ramp advice, and an extended range of ramp models that solve difficult car-to-ramp clearance issues. Not to mention every ramp purchase allocates some funds to support CF.

In a couple of weeks we will be launching two new ramp models at the Spring Carlisle Show. The RLL-49-2 and RLL-59-2 models incorporate the same cradle top platform used in the RLL-80-2 model. The cradle top platform helps to keep the non-drive front wheels on the ramp when the rear of the car is lifted with a floor jack. Now customers who don't need the low incline of the 80" ramp have a choice of two less expensive models that feature the cradle top platform.


Originally Posted by Mike02Z (Post 1589397484)
Fred, I really don't want PayPal financing and 0% for 6 months is different than 0% for 12 moths. I'll also have everything here by Weds. I had a 200.00 Amazon gift card from Christmas and already have an Amazon card. To pay off in 12 months is only 43.48 per month (including the Amazon GC, 26.82 per month). As opposed to 85.35 a month for 6 months with another company I don't really trust (PayPal).

No offense, I just needed to get the best deal. I know you offer good prices. Sometimes the financing is the thing I need to make it worth it. Otherwise I wait until I have cash as I don't have credit card debt unless it's at 0%. I also got a good jack for that 0% for 12 months as well :cheers:

I also have other uses in mind for the ramps. To use to load into a trailer, These should work great for that.


nmvettec7 04-12-2015 09:43 AM

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Just bought the Race Ramps RR-XT-67....2 piece set for $267.52 with free shipping. This was the best deal I could find after researching price points on this specific set for the C7. These ramps are a direct ship from Brute Industries in Escanaba, MI via Fed Ex. Delivery in 4 days.

There are deals to be had on these specific race ramp sets for the C7. Just spend a few minutes completing some research.

There is also a one piece 67" Race Ramp available at a lower price point. I choose the 2 pc. for easy storage.

eboggs_jkvl 04-12-2015 09:55 AM

I have a set of RR-XT ramps that I bought long ago. I have the Z06 splitter on the car and I can drive up the ramps without issues with my stock height C7.

Were I buying ramps now, I would get the 2 piece to allow more "side" access.



Elmer

Little Red Corvette1 04-12-2015 10:55 AM

I really do not agree with what I am reading in this thread. A forum supplier provides information to select a product. A forum member thanks the forum supplier for the information and buys the product from a non forum supplier.

firefighting101 04-12-2015 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Little Red Corvette1 (Post 1589398815)
I really do not agree with what I am reading in this thread. A forum supplier provides information to select a product. A forum member thanks the forum supplier for the information and buys the product from a non forum supplier.

The vendors that support us should be supported. Especially when they come on here and provide useful answers as in this thread.

Fred@ReverseLogic 04-12-2015 11:52 AM

Below Cost Competitive Price Match on RR-XT-2
 
I don't really like selling the ramps below cost, but, I like not selling anything at all even less.

For a limited time I will be offering the RR-XT-2 service ramps for 20% off using the "CPM20" Competitive Price Match coupon code. This code only applies to the 67" constant slope ramp model. Normal price: $334. After coupon code: $267.20.

The RR-XT-2 ramps will just barely clear a stock height base model C7 Corvette.

http://www.reverselogic.us/shop.html...mps/p/19952522

Hopefully forum members who avail themselves to this offer will find something else of interest at my website.


Originally Posted by nmvettec7 (Post 1589398410)
Just bought the Race Ramps RR-XT-67....2 piece set for $267.52 with free shipping...


C7-Beast 04-12-2015 12:05 PM

Just for clarity...I never asked Fred any questions directly. I did not email or message Fred. Fred is very helpful and I typically try and support our forum vendors WHEN I can. In this case it was a matter of waiting another 6 months to get a product I needed or get it now in a way that does not cause me to pay interest.

Unlike some, I didn't pay for my car in cash, I'm not retired, and don't have a ton of extra cash laying around.

Fred has been nothing but professional in the thread I think he understands my position of why that I didn't buy from him, this time. That will most likely ensure I will do business with Fred in the future and will recommend him to my buddies with C7's who have more cash for these things than I do.

While Fred may not have gotten this sale from me this time, his professional attitude and willingness to help will get him business from me and I bet a few of my friends in the future.

At the end of the day, Fred loses one sale but gains more customers in the future.

Thanks Fred!

Fred@ReverseLogic 04-12-2015 12:16 PM

I welcome every chance I get to participate in the forums regardless whether or not the particular exchange results in an immediate order.

It's really all about the numbers. I just checked Google Analytics and 5% of the forum members reading this thread have already visited my website. On the average every twentieth visitor from CF purchases something. That's why I continue to support CF as a sponsor.

Thanks to the information available through GA, I have recently dropped sponsorship on a few other forums where I could not get any traction converting visits to orders.


Originally Posted by Mike02Z (Post 1589399177)
...At the end of the day, Fred loses one sale but gains more customers in the future.

Thanks Fred!


nmvettec7 04-12-2015 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by Little Red Corvette1 (Post 1589398815)
I really do not agree with what I am reading in this thread. A forum supplier provides information to select a product. A forum member thanks the forum supplier for the information and buys the product from a non forum supplier.

Little Red Corvette1:

Keep in mind the thread was NOT started by a vendor, but rather a Forum Member who had a question. If vendors chime in and post that is their doing, not the original poster. No member has interferred with any vendor in this thread. Any forum member has the right to make purchases from any vendor that may provide the same product at a lower price point.

Forum members are not obligated to buy from any forum vendor who posts here on the CF. The vendor is here solely to inform and sell product.

Lets look at this thread in a positive light as Fred from Reverse Logic (due to this thread) has made an offer to price match the Race Ramp product to forum members using a special code when ordering that another CF member mentioned in this thread.

I have personally ordered product from Reverse Logic, and Fred has taken the extra initiative to price match, get new customers or gain repeat customers. That is a positive and provides a signal of his integrity to the Corvette Forum members.

That alone is a positive for both the CF members and Reverse Logic.

schaibaa 05-13-2015 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by Little Red Corvette1 (Post 1589398815)
I really do not agree with what I am reading in this thread. A forum supplier provides information to select a product. A forum member thanks the forum supplier for the information and buys the product from a non forum supplier.

Agree with what you're saying. Luckily Fred earned another sale (me) from his response in this thread - and I'm sure countless others. I was ready to order from Amazon and came across this thread - didn't even look at the Amazon price for the same ramp after Fred set me straight. A set of RLL-80-2's are on the way.

Thanks Fred.

C7-Beast 05-13-2015 06:02 PM

Let's just be really clear here.... This thread was not started by Reverse Logic. Fred answered some questions because that is just the kind of guy he is. I'm not sure anyone "used" Fred to go buy from somewhere else. At least I know I did not.

I personally did make a mistake ordering from Amazon and paid for that mistake in multiple flubbed deliveries. I then returned the ramps to Amazon as they just could not get it right.

After the fiasco with Amazon, I immediately contacted Fred and that very evening he got back to me and he had quoted me and I paid immediately. This was over a weekend. By that Thursday, my RR-80-10-2 were delivered.

At the end of the day Fred did get my business and I am a very satisfied customer.

On the Amazon front, the only reason I went with them was because they were offering 12 month no interest with any purchases of 500 or more.

While the Amazon fiasco was going on I sent an email to Jeff Bezos explaining my issue. Someone from executive customer service contacted me that same day. My big beef was having to return the ramps and my total for that order was under 500. The Amazon card then needed to be paid off or they would want me to pay interest on a 250 Arcan low profile jack at 24.99% (NOT HAPPENING)....While they could not fix the issue with the 12 month financing, no interest, they did give me full credit for the jack so it wound up being a win/win for Fred and me. Fred got the sale and I got a free jack from Amazon.

I will also highly recommend Fred to my friends and family if they ever need Race Ramps.

Thanks Fred!

nmvettec7 05-13-2015 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by Mike02Z (Post 1589623854)
Let's just be really clear here.... This thread was not started by Reverse Logic. Fred answered some questions because that is just the kind of guy he is. I'm not sure anyone "used" Fred to go buy from somewhere else. At least I know I did not.

Ok guys......Mike02Z did nothing wrong. He found the ramps and at Amazon and in his post above clearly explains why he made the purchase at Amazon.

In my post #21 above, I clearly stated that I had just purchased the race ramps and showed the price I paid from AutoPartsWarehouse.com.

As I stated in my post, my price was the best of any vendor on the internet. After seeing the price I paid, Fred from Reverse Logic decided to price match the price I paid for CF members with a special code.

After the debacle with Amazon, Mike 02Z ordered his from Fred due to the price match.

If it wasn't for my post #21, no one would have gotten the price match from Fred.

So I think, several CF members owe Mike02Z an apology for jumping to conclusions as he did nothing wrong by placing his original order with Amazon.

Looks like Fred made a few sales due to my post.

Fred@ReverseLogic 05-13-2015 07:22 PM

I did make a few sales of the RR-XT-2 ramps at the matched price. But since these were zero profit transactions I would stop short of calling it a win/win. Don't get me wrong, I am not complaining. After all I did match APWs price voluntarily. Fortunately for me, a few forum members added other products to their orders.

As to Mike02z's order... He did not place the order for the RR-80-10-2 ramps because I matched the price on the RR-XT-2 ramps. My price on the RR-80-10-2 ramps was already lower than the Amazon price. Most people assume that Amazon's prices are the lowest. I just checked the the Amazon price tonight on the RR-80-10-2. It is more than $40 higher than the Reverse Logic price.


Originally Posted by nmvettec7 (Post 1589624053)
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Looks like Fred made a few sales due to my post.


Joy c7 05-13-2015 07:42 PM

+1 For ReverseLogic, Great guy to deal with!

C7-Beast 05-13-2015 08:28 PM

Just one more detail, when I purchased the RR-80-10-2's from Amazon they were offering 10% off any of the Race Ramp products over a certain amount so my invoice was 418.05 -41.80 for a total of 376.25 + tax = 398.83 delivered with 12 month 0% interest. Fred's price was 389.23 including tax and delivery.

It was NOT the price that originally made me buy from Amazon. It was the 0% financing for 12 months. Why use my money when I can use someone else's money and let mine accrue interest?

I do balk at the idea of blindly using a CF sponsor just because they pay their monthly fee to be a vendor. We have some GREAT vendors here, Fred and many, many others. We also have vendors pushing off the shelf stuff with a 50% Corvette tax markup and others who have countless complaints and poor performance so I prefer to do my homework and not just blindly buy from a CF vendor just because they pay for that privilege. :crazy2:

There is one vendor here that I use religiously. Amazing customer service and decent prices, most of the time. I will pay a few bucks more to use this vendor due to his past performance. When I have to have something GM related, I go to him first. I recently wanted a Z06 grille but that vendor wanted 100 more than I paid from a high volume seller on eBay. I don't have 100 extra dollars to spend if I don't have to especially for something that is a 'nice to have" vs necessity.

I do support our vendors. I don't support them JUST because they are vendors. I support them because they have the right combination of price and customer service.

meyerweb 05-13-2015 09:59 PM

I haven't ordered ramps from Fred. Or anyone else, for that matter. But I did recently order a set of jacking pucks from ReverseLogic, in part because of the way I've seen Fred support forum members, and in part because of the high quality reputation his products have.

When I'm ready to order something else that he sells, I'll at least check out his web site again. Good customer service generally (but not always) pays off in the long run.

schaibaa 05-13-2015 10:39 PM

Sorry about that Mike, I wasn't trying to insinuate you had done anything wrong. My point was merely that these threads are well indexed for searches, and even if a forum vendor misses a sale or two, their participation pays dividends over a long period of time - and it is not a wasted effort.

:cheers:


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