Flood car? Z51? Pics inside.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...0a83b898c.jpeghttps://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...b10ebe9d6.jpeg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...7f856a293a.png About to buy this car. It has drrilled rotors. I want to know if it is Z51. Didn’t see anything in glove box. Also I’ve been cautious about flood cars. Anyone else have rust on the bolts that bolt the seat in? It has a traction control button. Didn’t see anything about magnetic ride or z51. |
Originally Posted by RealliveMD
(Post 1596647992)
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...0a83b898c.jpeghttps://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...b10ebe9d6.jpeg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...7f856a293a.png About to buy this car. It has drrilled rotors. I want to know if it is Z51. Didn’t see anything in glove box. Also I’ve been cautious about flood cars. Anyone else have rust on the bolts that bolt the seat in? It has a traction control button. Didn’t see anything about magnetic ride or z51. |
Red calipers are not part of the Z51 package
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Looks like this and is located all the way towards the driver in the glove compartment lid.
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I'll go back and check but I promise it seems like it has been removed.
What about the rust on the bolts. Do you guys have rust. My c7z doesn't and my trans am never did. |
I didn't think mine had it either, but after someone pointed out that it's in the door rather than the compartment and in a little recess closest to the driver, I found it.
Mine does not have any rust there, that looks suspicious... |
my .02 on the rust is well they are pennies in the picture lol
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Originally Posted by lazerlemonta
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my .02 on the rust is well they are pennies in the picture lol
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Z51 option went away in 2010. It was replaced with the GS model. There is no Z51 on 2010-13 model C6's.
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https://www.corvette-web-central.com...INdecoder.html
Doesn't have the Mag-Ride because there's no dial in the center, just the traction-control button. This is also a 1LT package from what I can see. The VIN has an "A". I'd say this is a base Corvette, otherwise it'd have a "U" for the 1LT. |
Originally Posted by HBsurfer
(Post 1596648088)
Red calipers are not part of the Z51 package
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Originally Posted by EVRose
(Post 1596648329)
Z51 option went away in 2010. It was replaced with the GS model. There is no Z51 on 2010-13 model C6's.
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Originally Posted by RogerRamjet21
(Post 1596648444)
Thanks, I did not know that. It must have come back in 2014 or so since I see it listed on newer models again, yes?
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Originally Posted by EVRose
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On the C6 Z51 was an option not a model. For C7 I know Z51 is available but I am not sure if it's an option or an actual model. I don't remember seeing any C7's with "Z51" emblems on them but that doesn't mean they don't exist. :confused2:
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It's possible someone spilled an acidic drink, which might have caused what you see. Easy enough to clean the spill off of the upholstery and carpeting so you might not see any other evidence of that having happened.
Another possibility is salt damage if the car was driven in the snow and salt. The sludge gets on your boots and hence into the car and if it contacts any bare metal, the rusting starts. I don't see a lot of vettes being driven here in the winter (just 2 so far), but the couple that I did see were covered in salt and crud, so it's a pretty good guess that these were daily drivers, and so the drivers were likely tracking salt into the car as well. My caddy was a daily driver, and the bolt heads holding the seat track looked pretty rusty, even though I took great care to keep salt out of the interior. Any chance you can get some pics of the undercarriage to see if there is much rust there? |
Mine is a Z51 and they did not come with painted calipers, though very easy to do or replace, so don't judge it is Z51 or not by calipers, the build or option sheet is the only way. I am not sure a corroded penny is indicative of a flood car either. I have found pennies under car seats that were corroded that were out of my own car and I know the cars weren't in floods. If a penny gets damp it will oxidize.
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Originally Posted by RogerRamjet21
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No, I don't think it was ever a model, just an option. There are Z51 GM approved badges, but you have to buy and install them, GM does not put them on by default (as it's an option, not a model). The previous owner of my car installed a set and they look okay to me, so I'm leaving them. He also said the red calipers were an extra cost option, not standard for Z51, so whomever pointed that out above was correct.
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Originally Posted by EVRose
(Post 1596648329)
Z51 option went away in 2010. It was replaced with the GS model. There is no Z51 on 2010-13 model C6's.
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Those bolts getting surface rust is fairly common. All mine have had it. It's one of the reasons the vette starts in the 50ks and not the 80ks.
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Look for a tidal or water line inside the door cavity or peel the carpet back from the floor pan.
Run Forrest Run!!! |
According to the Corvette Black Book, the last year for the stand alone Z51 package was in 2009. Beginning in in 2010 the Z51 Option was incorporated into the GS Z16 Performance Package. There is a Z52 Performance package from 2010-2013 which relates to the Grand Sport--dry sump LS3 on manual tranny cars etc, tranny cooler (nothing that is directly speed related)
I have a 3LT 2006 C6 coupe with Z51 RPO, and it did come with red painted calipers. Original picture as from factory added. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...5b1b3bbb16.jpg |
Originally Posted by LV2TOUR
(Post 1596649647)
According to the Corvette Black Book, the last year for the stand alone Z51 package was in 2009. Beginning in in 2010 the Z51 Option was incorporated into the GS Z16 Performance Package. There is a Z52 Performance package from 2010-2013 which relates to the Grand Sport--dry sump LS3 on manual tranny cars etc, tranny cooler (nothing that is directly speed related)
I have a 3LT 2006 C6 coupe with Z51 RPO, and it did come with red painted calipers. Original picture as from factory added. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...5b1b3bbb16.jpg |
Originally Posted by EVRose
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Actually, your calipers were painted by a previous owner. Painted calipers were not a factory option on base model C6's whether it had Z51 or not.
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Originally Posted by RogerRamjet21
(Post 1596649771)
I just asked him and he said not only were they an option then, he just bought a new one and it's still an option. So, I went to the build your Vette site and went through the pages and sure enough, 595.00 gets you painted calipers.
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Originally Posted by 1Hotrodz
(Post 1596649513)
Look for a tidal or water line inside the door cavity or peel the carpet back from the floor pan.
Run Forrest Run!!! 85,000 mile 1LT...I hope the price is right. |
Originally Posted by EVRose
(Post 1596649903)
For C7 it is an option. If it were an option on C6 there would be an RPO code for it. Ask him what that is. I've never heard of any base C6 having painted calipers from the factory.
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water issues
Originally Posted by 1Hotrodz
(Post 1596649513)
Look for a tidal or water line inside the door cavity or peel the carpet back from the floor pan.
Run Forrest Run!!! I would agree with your "run" option. theirs too many cars available out there. why start with one that is questionable? maybe if you're looking for a parts car, but I'd pass. imagine how'd you feel, after a couple of months, and then found out you had mold, or starting having electrical gremlins? start with as clean a slate as possible. |
Originally Posted by RogerRamjet21
(Post 1596650427)
Any idea what the code might look like, there are a lot of codes on mine and I confess the only two I know for sure are NPP and Z51?
https://www.corvetteactioncenter.com...rpo_codes.html I don't think painted calipers were an option until 2012 and they were a "J" something. |
Originally Posted by RogerRamjet21
(Post 1596650427)
Any idea what the code might look like, there are a lot of codes on mine and I confess the only two I know for sure are NPP and Z51?
http://www.c6registry.com/facts/2008.htm |
Sorry, but 4 owners alone on a 6 or 7 year old car would make me run.
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Originally Posted by EVRose
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I've never heard of that. If red calipers were an option there must be an RPO code specifically for that, right? What is it? It's definitely not part of the Z51 package.
I've added all my option codes from my C6 Corvette (boxed checked with what options my car has). Besides the Z51 RPO, there was also an RPO code J55 for Brake system(Heavy Duty Power Brakes) which could include the Red Calipers, but I thought that was part of the Z51 option code. The only other code I can see is the FE3 for Sports suspension, which again I thought was part of the Z51 code. You can look yourself at my full options list to see what I missed that would specify colored calipers. Also, all the remaining options for my year are all listed and I didn't see any specific code for colored calipers. |
Rust in that area could also happen from simply shampooing the carpet. That area always collects weird things, trash that often seems scary to touch. I clean that area out with an old toothbrush and sometimes have to use soap and water if dry toothbrush doesn't work. Maybe you should check in the passenger foot well and pull the carpet over the fuse box, it easily flips over. I would imagine there should be stains on the backside if water damaged.
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Originally Posted by LV2TOUR
(Post 1596653208)
...I didn't see any specific code for colored calipers.
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Originally Posted by itomh
(Post 1596653297)
...Maybe you should check in the passenger foot well and pull the carpet over the fuse box, it easily flips over. I would imagine there should be stains on the backside if water damaged.
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Originally Posted by ruxvette
(Post 1596653757)
Is there an echo in here?
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I would suggest more digging, lift carpets up, inspect the under carriage etc.
My C6 Z51 doesn't have red calipers. |
Originally Posted by RealliveMD
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I checked the code plate and couldn't find the z51. That's odd because I thought the drilled rotors were part of that package. I was just buying it for road coarse. I'll just have to put some painters tape across the front of my c7z and go give'em hell.
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Originally Posted by LV2TOUR
(Post 1596653208)
EV, I don't doubt your knowledge on the option codes. I can only go with the option list for my car.
I've added all my option codes from my C6 Corvette (boxed checked with what options my car has). Besides the Z51 RPO, there was also an RPO code J55 for Brake system(Heavy Duty Power Brakes) which could include the Red Calipers, but I thought that was part of the Z51 option code. The only other code I can see is the FE3 for Sports suspension, which again I thought was part of the Z51 code. You can look yourself at my full options list to see what I missed that would specify colored calipers. Also, all the remaining options for my year are all listed and I didn't see any specific code for colored calipers. |
Originally Posted by LV2TOUR
(Post 1596653208)
EV, I don't doubt your knowledge on the option codes. I can only go with the option list for my car.
I've added all my option codes from my C6 Corvette (boxed checked with what options my car has). Besides the Z51 RPO, there was also an RPO code J55 for Brake system(Heavy Duty Power Brakes) which could include the Red Calipers, but I thought that was part of the Z51 option code. The only other code I can see is the FE3 for Sports suspension, which again I thought was part of the Z51 code. You can look yourself at my full options list to see what I missed that would specify colored calipers. Also, all the remaining options for my year are all listed and I didn't see any specific code for colored calipers. |
2012 Grand Sport bought last year with 18K miles...I too had rusted bolt heads on the outer rail of the passenger seat. No other rust or sign of water intrusion was found. I chalked it up to a sloppy previous owner as I found evidence of a nasty spill/splash of some sort from the cup holder, down the console, to the floorboard and passenger door! The “make ready” crew got a C- grade on this one. I cleaned her for 8 hours the day we got her home.
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Originally Posted by Jstan2014
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2012 Grand Sport bought last year with 18K miles...I too had rusted bolt heads on the outer rail of the passenger seat. No other rust or sign of water intrusion was found. I chalked it up to a sloppy previous owner as I found evidence of a nasty spill/splash of some sort from the cup holder, down the console, to the floorboard and passenger door! The “make ready” crew got a C- grade on this one. I cleaned her for 8 hours the day we got her home.
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Originally Posted by 449er
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You are worse than me with your Corvette ( and that is saying something) :lol:
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Originally Posted by RogerRamjet21
(Post 1596650427)
Any idea what the code might look like, there are a lot of codes on mine and I confess the only two I know for sure are NPP and Z51?
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Originally Posted by EVRose
(Post 1596648329)
Z51 option went away in 2010. It was replaced with the GS model. There is no Z51 on 2010-13 model C6's.
I saw where the Z51 option was included into the Z16 pkg....I stand corrected and certainly apologize :) https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...7b87028400.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...f593b7851c.jpg |
Originally Posted by SouthBaySurfer
(Post 1596657065)
Painted calipers became an option in 2012, available in four colors: silver(RPO J6C), gray(RPO J6D), yellow(RPO J6E), or red(RPO J6F). The Corvette Black Book says this was a "new option" for 2012.
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Originally Posted by ruxvette
(Post 1596657760)
Damn, now why didn't I know that?
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Originally Posted by mikecronis
(Post 1596648351)
https://www.corvette-web-central.com...INdecoder.html
Doesn't have the Mag-Ride because there's no dial in the center, just the traction-control button. This is also a 1LT package from what I can see. The VIN has an "A". I'd say this is a base Corvette, otherwise it'd have a "U" for the 1LT. |
Originally Posted by EVRose
(Post 1596658797)
If that's for the base model C6 I didn't know it either.
Jeezus. |
Originally Posted by buckmeister2
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Interesting...I always thought "1LT" is the "Base" model???
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Originally Posted by EVRose
(Post 1596659153)
All non-ZR1/Z06/GS are base models. 1LT 2LT etc. are trim levels.
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Definitely not Z51 due to model year. If it isn't a wide body then it shouldn't have Z51 and Z16 on the sticker. Pennies look corroded which is not saying much.
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Originally Posted by EVRose
(Post 1596659153)
All non-ZR1/Z06/GS are base models. 1LT 2LT etc. are trim levels.
"This is also a 1LT package from what I can see. The VIN has an "A". I'd say this is a base Corvette, otherwise it'd have a "U" for the 1LT." What I was getting at is that I always thought the 1LT was the minimum trim level for a Base Vette,not an option. In the above quote, it appears he is saying that the 1LT is an upgrade option for the Base model. Is the 1LT an extra-cost option on the Base model? |
Originally Posted by buckmeister2
(Post 1596661138)
Is the 1LT an extra-cost option on the Base model? No. it was the minimum trim level.... 2LT, 3LT, and 4LT were option packages priced accordingly... This page..... http://www.c6registry.com/facts/2007.htm Shows the prices of the various option packages, the RPO codes, etc... Change the year in the URL to match the year of the car in question. It's not 100% complete, but there's lots of good info Part of your confusion might also come from "base" model is also used a lot to differentiate a "regular... AKA base" model from a Grand Sport, a Z06, or a ZR1.... |
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