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Custum73 06-12-2005 08:15 PM

Front end done, wheels back on, but something doesn't look right...
 
Front end rebuild is done, with the exception of torquing the a-arm pivot bolts. Wheels are back on and I set the car down on some ramps. Right away I noticed that the front end seems to be sitting high. It's been awhile since I've seen things back together, but for some reason it doesn't look right. Take a look. I ran a tape from the tire to the fender and I have about 5 inches of clearance. Is this right?

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mrvette 06-12-2005 08:23 PM

BET ODDS the coil springs are not seated correctly in the upper pockets...don't ask how I know this...OK???

GENE

turtlevette 06-12-2005 08:23 PM

Is the engine in?

You've got a serious problem somewhere.


better pull the wheel and show us what you did. Its more than just a spring not seated.

mandm1200 06-12-2005 09:10 PM

Good news is you won't have to worry about bottoming out over speed bumps. :D

mrvette 06-12-2005 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by turtlevette
Is the engine in?

You've got a serious problem somewhere.


better pull the wheel and show us what you did. Its more than just a spring not seated.

Turtle, think so??, what in hell other than a missing engine could cause that much height problem??? nothing I can think of....

I know I had one HELL of a ride height problem on some car in the past...can't remember which...been a while...and that's what it wuz...

GENE

Duke94 06-12-2005 09:24 PM

I agree with Mrvette, and don't ask me how I know either!

turtlevette 06-12-2005 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by mrvette
Turtle, think so??, what in hell other than a missing engine could cause that much height problem??? nothing I can think of....

I know I had one HELL of a ride height problem on some car in the past...can't remember which...been a while...and that's what it wuz...

GENE

I guess he should put it down and roll it around but that ain't gonna lower it 4 inches. Its almost like he has the wrong springs or ball joints or incorrect installation. I agree it may be the spring is not in the pocket too but is that gonna raise it 4 inches. It seems someting else in addition to a spring seating problem.

He needs to take some more picts of his work to give us a clue.

Jclgodale3 06-12-2005 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by turtlevette
I guess he should put it down and roll it around but that ain't gonna lower it 4 inches. Its almost like he has the wrong springs or ball joints or incorrect installation. I agree it may be the spring is not in the pocket too but is that gonna raise it 4 inches. It seems someting else in addition to a spring seating problem.

He needs to take some more picts of his work to give us a clue.

:iagree:

Custum73 06-13-2005 07:58 AM

I'll post some more pics when I get a chance. probably wont be for a day. I'm working a double today. Spring seats was the only thing I could think of too. Tight coils were up. Made sure the end of the spring was seated just before and not covering the drain in the lower arm.

This sucks. I spent so many hours cleaning, sandblasting, painting, wrenching, and now this. Would be nice to drive the car again this summer. Can you give me a list of things to look for and I'll start troubleshooting and snapping pics.

Thanks,

Jughead 06-13-2005 08:24 AM

Align the upper spring in the groove. Don't worry about the lower arm/spring/drain hole alignment.

Vesa 06-13-2005 08:33 AM

You might have the 4x4 off road option - it is very rare :D
Seriously - need more pics...

Vesa 06-13-2005 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by Jughead
Align the upper spring in the groove. Don't worry about the lower arm/spring/drain hole alignment.

Why Jughead?
Isnīt the effect to ride height the same if upper end OR lower end is not properly seated at the pocked (around 1/2 inch max since the pocket is not that deep?)? :eek:

Custum73 06-13-2005 08:40 AM

Let's say I had to rotate the spring. How much do I need to tear down to do so? When I was installing the springs, I was able to use a pipe wrench to turn them into place, but now with the compression on the springs with the spindle back on, I doubt I'm going to be able to do that. I really don't want to pull ball joints again. Might as well order some new boots right away.

Vesa 06-13-2005 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by Custum73
Let's say I had to rotate the spring. How much do I need to tear down to do so? When I was installing the springs, I was able to use a pipe wrench to turn them into place, but now with the compression on the springs with the spindle back on, I doubt I'm going to be able to do that. I really don't want to pull ball joints again. Might as well order some new boots right away.

When I replaced my front springs 2 weeks ago I opened the inner side of the lower control arm - it sits tight behing 3 bolts only - I think that is easier and you need no special tools for that compared to open the ball joint...maybe...

My new 550 springs are that short that you might be able to turn them without opening anything...Do not know your spring type...

Custum73 06-13-2005 09:03 AM

stock springs.

Just talked to a buddy at work and it's possible I may have snugged up the pivot bolts too tight on the lower arms, keeping the arms from rotating up. I'll try jacking the car back up, loosening those bolts a little more and set the car down and hopefully that does the trick. I find it hard to believe those bushings could hold the car up like that, but maybe it's possible.

NHvette 06-13-2005 11:16 AM

Like Jughead said - gotta align the top end with the 'drain hole'
in the upper pocket.
You can use a small 2-jaw gear puller to pop the ball joint out
without hammering the boot with a pickle fork.
One of those screw/lever type tie rod end removers may work, too.

:seeya

Custum73 06-13-2005 11:51 AM

If I do have to break the knuckle, I'll definitely use a puller.

C4kid94 06-13-2005 12:07 PM

Mine isnt that high without the motor or trans in it. I do have one spring seated wrong so one side is 1 inch higher.

BSeery 06-13-2005 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by Duke94
I agree with Mrvette, and don't ask me how I know either!

:withstupid:

Jughead 06-13-2005 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by Custum73
stock springs.

Just talked to a buddy at work and it's possible I may have snugged up the pivot bolts too tight on the lower arms, keeping the arms from rotating up. I'll try jacking the car back up, loosening those bolts a little more and set the car down and hopefully that does the trick. I find it hard to believe those bushings could hold the car up like that, but maybe it's possible.


:iagree:

I eliminated that possibility because you stated you hadn't torqued them yet.


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