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IF,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, GM put in any of the recalls, you could have the crappy GM Relay installed between the Column Lock and the BCM
They are well known to crap out. NOTE! If you have a column lock issue, the engine SHOULD still crank and run but, the engine will STALL if the car move the slightest bit (2mph fuel cut off safety) WHAT is the SECURITY LIGHT on the IPC doing? Key On = ???????? If you have a VATs issue, the car WILL NOT CRANK/START?RUN and the security light will either FLASH or stay on.. :( Clear all DTC and re read and post what you have.. Bill |
Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
(Post 1594991251)
IF,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, GM put in any of the recalls, you could have the crappy GM Relay installed between the Column Lock and the BCM
They are well known to crap out. NOTE! If you have a column lock issue, the engine SHOULD still crank and run but, the engine will STALL if the car move the slightest bit (2mph fuel cut off safety) WHAT is the SECURITY LIGHT on the IPC doing? Key On = ???????? If you have a VATs issue, the car WILL NOT CRANK/START?RUN and the security light will either FLASH or stay on.. :( Clear all DTC and re read and post what you have.. Bill https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...dc867fb802.jpg |
How can I chk the IPC for you???
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Any Further HELP... would be Appreciated My Corvette FRIENDS
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Look under the steering column and find the tiny 4 pin connector for the Column Lock Motor assy. See if GM installed the relay assembly that they call the CLB
IT can and will fail..... It looks like this. Remove it and reconnect the tiny connector back together and see if anything changes. It looks like this: Attachment 48122889 Bill |
Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
(Post 1594997679)
Look under the steering column and find the tiny 4 pin connector for the Column Lock Motor assy. See if GM installed the relay assembly that they call the CLB
IT can and will fail..... It looks like this. Remove it and reconnect the tiny connector back together and see if anything changes. It looks like this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...l_harnessk.jpg Bill |
Originally Posted by CKCars
(Post 1594997808)
Thks Bill, Your a Champ... Will do and Report Back My-Friend:thumbs:
My steering is not locked at this time... just keep getting Pull Key Wait 10 Sec.:crazy2: |
Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
(Post 1594997679)
Look under the steering column and find the tiny 4 pin connector for the Column Lock Motor assy. See if GM installed the relay assembly that they call the CLB
IT can and will fail..... It looks like this. Remove it and reconnect the tiny connector back together and see if anything changes. It looks like this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...l_harnessk.jpg Bill |
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Originally Posted by CKCars
(Post 1594999069)
OK... Found the connections as prompted by you. I un-plugged both of them and re-plugged them back together. No Change in Dash Message.
My steering is not locked at this time... just keep getting Pull Key Wait 10 Sec.:crazy2: |
Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
(Post 1595005970)
Post #69 is the best alternative. Remove the GM K harness completely because inside it most likely looks like this:
http://media.motortopia.com/files/17...l_CLrelay2.jpg Plug the male connector from the lock motor, that was plugged into the K Harness female connector, into the female connector that is attached to the bottom of the dash so that you can get the column unlocked. Then get and install the LMC5 and do the "optional" procedure described on page 2 of the LMC5 install instructions at the same time you do the LMC5 install.. |
Originally Posted by CKCars
(Post 1595006003)
??? My column is not lock?
PULL KEY WAIT 10 SEC |
Car starts,and runs as should... my new question... Climate Control REAL DIM
Originally Posted by CKCars
(Post 1595006079)
Only Message:
PULL KEY WAIT 10 SEC |
Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
(Post 1595060683)
Very common failure on the C5. Google "C5 dim climate control" and you will get back dozens of hits including some on this Forum. Here is one from this Forum:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...splay-fix.html There are others. 100% AGREE!! There are hundreds of vids on the issue and how to repair. A little technical soldering on some resisrors. Did you find the GM Relay harness between the column lock harness connectors???? Another issue that will cause the HVAC module to have issues is a failed Ignition Switch (dirty contacts).. I would check the resistors on the board inside the module first. Bill |
Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
(Post 1595063463)
100% AGREE!!
There are hundreds of vids on the issue and how to repair. A little technical soldering on some resisrors. Did you find the GM Relay harness between the column lock harness connectors???? Another issue that will cause the HVAC module to have issues is a failed Ignition Switch (dirty contacts).. I would check the resistors on the board inside the module first. Bill The Climate Control lights,are really dim. Question: Do those,lights for display come on slowly after you turn on the car... or after you turn on ...like the AC? I can't remember. Mine... I think is,off until I choose a funtion. I did see,some vids on resistors resolder. |
Originally Posted by CKCars
(Post 1595063516)
YES... After the handshake with BCM.... We were still in security mode at 2mpg. We than put key in door lock and turned a few times... and it gave us a green light to move the car. The only fix,was a ground wire from the BCM to the ground junction box.
The Climate Control lights,are really dim. Question: Do those,lights for display come on slowly after you turn on the car... or after you turn on ...like the AC? I can't remember. Mine... I think is,off until I choose a funtion. I did see,some vids on resistors resolder. |
No it is NOT the BCM!
Originally Posted by dpd
(Post 1553755682)
it's the bcm.check the car for faults.it's responsible for most of the body functions including starting,windows,interior lights,etc
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