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Tmyz 2K 01-13-2007 11:31 AM

c5 LS1 balancer/crank pulley suggestions
 
The car is a 2000 Coupe, 6 speed.

the balancer has managed to separate itself ( i beleive)

If you look down at it from the passenger side, it looks as if it is walking back and forth.

only has 28k miles on it.

I am in the market for an aftermarket balancer since i am going to be spending the money anyway.

I wouldnt mind an underdrive since i will be replacing the belt anyway, but this car is daily driven, so it cannot be anything extreme.

any help is appreciated!

thehammer69 01-13-2007 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by Tmyz 2K (Post 1558498671)
The car is a 2000 Coupe, 6 speed.

the balancer has managed to separate itself ( i beleive)

If you look down at it from the passenger side, it looks as if it is walking back and forth.

only has 28k miles on it.

I am in the market for an aftermarket balancer since i am going to be spending the money anyway.

I wouldnt mind an underdrive since i will be replacing the belt anyway, but this car is daily driven, so it cannot be anything extreme.

any help is appreciated!


Can't say i really recommend it, because i havn't officially done it yet, but when I install my cam and heads, I'm installing a Fluidampr balancer with 10% underdrive. It's SFI approved and shouldn't come apart like the ones that use rubber. My second choice would have been the ATI dampener with 10% underdrive. It was almost $100 more.

Hammer

SteveDoten 01-13-2007 12:17 PM

We've used Powerbond and ATI, most go with the 25% underdrive; where are you located?

vettenuts 01-13-2007 12:30 PM

ATI here, very happy with it.

Tmyz 2K 01-13-2007 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by Steve@CTCorvette (Post 1558499197)
We've used Powerbond and ATI, most go with the 25% underdrive; where are you located?


I am in St. Louis, MO.

I will most likely be ordering this from someone anyway, so location doesnt matter much.

25% underdrive isnt too much for a daily driven street car bone stock?

cam is in the future, but probably not for another year.

SteveDoten 01-13-2007 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by Tmyz 2K (Post 1558499496)
25% underdrive isnt too much for a daily driven street car bone stock?

no problem, there are 1000's of cars out there with those UD's

Thickraybans 01-13-2007 03:49 PM

ASP underdrive here,about a year of good service. If you want to go this route this is what you need:
ASP pulley part#941020
Belts-NAPA part#25-040410 &#25-060775
Balancer bolt I recomend ARP(you cannot reuse the factory bolt)http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...4916_-1_133564
Its a good idea to pin the balancer before bolting it on you can get a fixture for this from A&A or post a WTB thread in the for sale section.
For installing the new pulley a length of 16X2 metric rod with some nuts & washers can save the crank threads from damage.http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PMAKA=325-6848
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...photos/Rod.jpg
Good luck with the install.

Bunk930 01-13-2007 05:18 PM

I got the SLP underdrive pulley for around $200.00. You can also go with the liquid filled type they are lighter but they cost more. I am happy with the SLP. It is lighter than the stock pulley and I have heard that you gain 10 hp.

Tmyz 2K 01-13-2007 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by Thanatos (Post 1558501447)
Its a good idea to pin the balancer before bolting it on you can get a fixture for this from A&A or post a WTB thread in the for sale section.
For installing the new pulley a length of 16X2 metric rod with some nuts & washers can save the crank threads from damage.

can you explain the pinning?

and how would the threaded rod help? i would assume you mean thread the rod all the way into the crank, and then use the nut and washers to drive the pulley on?

vettenuts 01-13-2007 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by Tmyz 2K (Post 1558502746)
can you explain the pinning?

and how would the threaded rod help? i would assume you mean thread the rod all the way into the crank, and then use the nut and washers to drive the pulley on?

Exactly. A lot of guys try to pull it on with bolts, even longer bolts but this can stress the threads too much and damage them. Simple tool to make will prevent this from happening since it threads in all the way first, thereby engaging all the threads and spreading the load.

http://members.cox.net/vettenuts/balancertool.jpg

Thickraybans 01-13-2007 11:03 PM


Originally Posted by Tmyz 2K (Post 1558502746)
can you explain the pinning?

and how would the threaded rod help? i would assume you mean thread the rod all the way into the crank, and then use the nut and washers to drive the pulley on?

There are some pictures in this thread http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...=crank+pinning
If you should use the ARP bolt use ARP's torque spec. not the factory spec. as the ARP bolt is not torque-to-yield.

Hawkdriver 01-14-2007 08:54 AM

Have my steering rack almost dropped and waiting on my factory balancer. Do you mean I could have gotten more power? Is underdrive safe with nitrous? Do I need a tune? Can I do it with Pred? Do I just need a balancer and a new belt?

Bunk930 01-14-2007 12:48 PM

Yes you need a new belt with the SLP 78", and the sides on the UD are taller for better chance that you won't thow a belt. I don't see why you could not use it with nitrous. The thing I notice the most after this upgrade is once you get to 4000 RPM's it gets to the redline much faster.

Tmyz 2K 01-15-2007 05:53 PM

I ordered the Powerbond balancer from Texas Speed today. i am going to tackle this on sunday, hopefully i dont run into any problems. and yes i have a new crank bolt.

drivinhard 01-27-2007 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by Bunk930 (Post 1558502342)
I am happy with the SLP. It is lighter than the stock pulley and I have heard that you gain 10 hp.

Actually it's not.

SLP 25% UD - 9 lb 10 oz
OEM - 7 lb 12 oz


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