What is a "Tech 2 Scan Tool" and where can I get one?
Fellow Do-it-yourself (DIY) Corvette Enthusiasts,
I currently have an HVAC problem (dead blower motor) and the 3 Volume set Corvette service manual refers to a "Tech 2 Scan Tool" frequently in the HVAC section. Could someone tell me... 1) Who makes this scan tool? 2) Where can I get it? 3) How much does it cost? 4) Do you need be a GM trained Tech to use it, or can the DIY'er use it successfully? Thanks and Regards, Matt |
Originally Posted by Z06ster
(Post 1559949390)
Fellow Do-it-yourself (DIY) Corvette Enthusiasts,
I currently have an HVAC problem (dead blower motor) and the 3 Volume set Corvette service manual refers to a "Tech 2 Scan Tool" frequently in the HVAC section. Could someone tell me... 1) Who makes this scan tool? 2) Where can I get it? 3) How much does it cost? 4) Do you need be a GM trained Tech to use it, or can the DIY'er use it successfully? Thanks and Regards, Matt www.vetronix.com makes the GM Tech II for GM dealers. You can buy one for around $3500-$4000 from Vetronix. Anyone can use the Tech II. At first, it is a bit odd to get used to, but I mastered it pretty quickly once I started playing around with it. SG |
SG, Thanks for your quick response to this thread.
Oh Man, its going to take a lot of repairs for this to pay for itself. I think I found a cheaper one at, http://www.usatoolwarehouse.com/usat.../OTC-3628.html But, I don't know if this is the same item that you mention. I wonder if there any alternative to this... is there some hand held device that could a laptop and perhaps have some software installed on it that imitates what the Tech II device does? |
Don't the tuner suites (HP Tuners, EFI Live) provide the same (or better) data?
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look into HP tuners-should be what you can use for about $500
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Originally Posted by Z06ster
(Post 1559949471)
SG, Thanks for your quick response to this thread.
Oh Man, its going to take a lot of repairs for this to pay for itself. I think I found a cheaper one at, http://www.usatoolwarehouse.com/usat.../OTC-3628.html But, I don't know if this is the same item that you mention. I wonder if there any alternative to this... is there some hand held device that could a laptop and perhaps have some software installed on it that imitates what the Tech II device does? SG |
Originally Posted by 99 vett babycar
(Post 1559949989)
look into HP tuners-should be what you can use for about $500
These are not even close to doing what the Tech II will do. |
Originally Posted by Z06ster
(Post 1559949471)
SG, Thanks for your quick response to this thread.
Oh Man, its going to take a lot of repairs for this to pay for itself. I think I found a cheaper one at, http://www.usatoolwarehouse.com/usat.../OTC-3628.html But, I don't know if this is the same item that you mention. I wonder if there any alternative to this... is there some hand held device that could a laptop and perhaps have some software installed on it that imitates what the Tech II device does? |
Originally Posted by runamuk
(Post 1559957017)
These are not even close to doing what the Tech II will do.
SG |
Originally Posted by Bud Gordon
(Post 1559949770)
Don't the tuner suites (HP Tuners, EFI Live) provide the same (or better) data?
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Originally Posted by runamuk
(Post 1559957017)
These are not even close to doing what the Tech II will do.
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Originally Posted by RED99
(Post 1559963970)
Those are for tuning the motor. Not for trouble shooting other things in the car.
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Originally Posted by Bville-Bud
(Post 1559964513)
R U sure? I thought you could turn codes in the PCM off etc. I could be wrong.
The "HP tuners" are model and year specific. They also only let you change a few things, but nothing to do with the BCM or the PCM. Just a tune and code scan. Find a local shop that you like, my local non-dealer, has a Tech II. He only charges labor at $60 an hour to program or delete things. My 99 Z I had the CAGS shift light deleted, he charged me $15. Dealers keep them under lock and key and charge hundreds for 10 minutes of work. :crazy: Also if you buy a Tech II, you need to have it updated everytime there is a software release, I know in 2004 there were 19 releases, or even more. |
Originally Posted by screw991le
(Post 1559966221)
The "HP tuners" are model and year specific. They also only let you change a few things, but nothing to do with the BCM or the PCM. Just a tune and code scan.
Find a local shop that you like, my local non-dealer, has a Tech II. He only charges labor at $60 an hour to program or delete things. My 99 Z I had the CAGS shift light deleted, he charged me $15. Dealers keep them under lock and key and charge hundreds for 10 minutes of work. :crazy: Also if you buy a Tech II, you need to have it updated everytime there is a software release, I know in 2004 there were 19 releases, or even more. http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2933 What parameters can I edit? The million dollar question.. Here is just a basic summary of some of the things you can edit with our package. A complete list would be quite lengthy. The exact parameter set for your particular application may be different. Due to the number of applicaitons we support, we cannot list all of the supported parameters on a per application basis. Engine EGR, Air Pump, COT Enable/Disable and controls Rev Limiters, Idle Speed and characteristics Throttle Follower and Cracker MAF Tables, Main VE and Cranking VE Power Enrich fuel controls Closed Loop/Open Loop characteristics Injectors Spark Advance and Retard Engine Diagnostics MAP Error Values MAF Error Values Misfire Values DTC's (trouble codes) Transmission Shift Speeds Shift Firmness and Time TCC Parameters and Tables C.A.G.S. Transmission Diagnostics Trans Slip Test Conditions System PRNDL Flag Fan Type Select VATS Fan On/Off Temps A/C Parameters Speedometer Speedometer Speed Limiter |
To me a "HP tuner" is a Hypertech or a superchips. Sorry for the confusion.
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Originally Posted by screw991le
(Post 1559966221)
The "HP tuners" are model and year specific. They also only let you change a few things, but nothing to do with the BCM or the PCM. Just a tune and code scan.
Find a local shop that you like, my local non-dealer, has a Tech II. He only charges labor at $60 an hour to program or delete things. My 99 Z I had the CAGS shift light deleted, he charged me $15. Dealers keep them under lock and key and charge hundreds for 10 minutes of work. :crazy: Also if you buy a Tech II, you need to have it updated everytime there is a software release, I know in 2004 there were 19 releases, or even more. :cheers: |
good thing about living here in Detroit, about 10 of my friends have them and we have 2 at work
Tech 2 is good for doing anything for GM vechicals like updating your PCM firmware, Removing the dreaded Theftlock if you buy a radio off of Ebay..EtC those tuners won't do that |
Originally Posted by foff667
(Post 1559970668)
HPTuners will allow you to scan pretty much any GM vehicle's PCM/BCM from 97+ for codes as well as hundreds of other parameters. It also allows you to reprogram the pcm and in most calibrations that consists of over 500 editable parameters not including codes ;). Although it will NOT allow you to program the bcm it will show you any bcm codes you may have which can help in diagnosing any issues you may have.
:cheers: but it does not have the bidirectional controls necessary to troubleshoot like the tech II has. I've owned HPtuners and it's more of a tuning tool with the ability to retrieve codes and eliminate diagnostic tests. |
Originally Posted by foff667
(Post 1559970668)
HPTuners will allow you to scan pretty much any GM vehicle's PCM/BCM from 97+ for codes as well as hundreds of other parameters. It also allows you to reprogram the pcm and in most calibrations that consists of over 500 editable parameters not including codes ;). Although it will NOT allow you to program the bcm it will show you any bcm codes you may have which can help in diagnosing any issues you may have.
:cheers: |
Originally Posted by screw991le
(Post 1559969351)
To me a "HP tuner" is a Hypertech or a superchips. Sorry for the confusion.
I'll quote myself for the blind :cool: |
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