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Perry Mason 06-12-2007 09:54 PM

Paddle Shifters
 
I am a devout manual guy for over 40 years of buying and driving stick shift cars. My '06 C6 A6 is my first "automatic" and I shift only with the paddles. My C6 is my fifth Corvette and I am looking forward to the C7. How many of you stick people have found that the paddles, although not perfect, give you the same or better experience as the MN6? I like shifting as I did when I was a young man, but I enjoy the paddle shift. I have had my A6 for 17 months. In my MINI S car, I almost wish I had paddles. I still like shifting, but the paddles on my A6 have allowed me the control I demand when I drive. How about you?

NetViper 06-12-2007 10:16 PM

I haven't had a chance to try them, but I was dissapointed they were not like the Ferrari F1 paddles where you have up on one side and down on the other. I see the 335i paddles are very simliar to what is in the Vette though.

What do you think about using them compared to most other systems if you have tried any?

AUSTINAMP 06-12-2007 10:20 PM

I use the paddles about 25 percent of the time. Very fun and although there is a delay still very efficient in my opinion. Also I like launching in 1st gear with the paddles.

GMautotech 06-12-2007 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by NetViper (Post 1560646427)
I haven't had a chance to try them, but I was dissapointed they were not like the Ferrari F1 paddles where you have up on one side and down on the other.

You're right, they are not like that stock. But with a quick modification to the paddle shifter wiring, that can be changed http://www.geocities.com/davidh1320@...ddleshift.html

NetViper 06-12-2007 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by GMautotech (Post 1560646531)
You're right, they are not like that stock. But with a quick modification to the paddle shifter wiring, that can be changed http://www.geocities.com/davidh1320@...ddleshift.html


Now that is pretty cool. Someone should make some really nice looking F1 paddles to go along with that mod. Something very Ferrari F430 like.

dbratten 06-12-2007 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by GMautotech (Post 1560646531)
You're right, they are not like that stock. But with a quick modification to the paddle shifter wiring, that can be changed http://www.geocities.com/davidh1320@...ddleshift.html

Wish I'd thought of that. ;)

To answer the OP question the only time I have missed a manual trans is for autox. The paddles allow me to easily stay in a selected gear but they can be difficult to find when the steering wheel is crossed up and I want to change gears say mid-corner. I would prefer the paddles to be column or console mounted. I also miss the additional control the clutch can provide -- again going into or out of a corner to rotate the car.

Except for those instances the paddle shift is great. It's also very good at providing a little extra hill-climbing power or deceleration just as with the manual by clicking into 5th or 4th -- and it doesn't disturb cruise-control either. I do hope the talked about improvements (software and/or hardware) to the A6 in the '08 model are available for backdating.

--Dan

Perry Mason 06-12-2007 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by dbratten (Post 1560647153)
Wish I'd thought of that. ;)

To answer the OP question the only time I have missed a manual trans is for autox. The paddles allow me to easily stay in a selected gear but they can be difficult to find when the steering wheel is crossed up and I want to change gears say mid-corner. I would prefer the paddles to be column or console mounted. I also miss the additional control the clutch can provide -- again going into or out of a corner to rotate the car.

Except for those instances the paddle shift is great. It's also very good at providing a little extra hill-climbing power or deceleration just as with the manual by clicking into 5th or 4th -- and it doesn't disturb cruise-control either. I do hope the talked about improvements (software and/or hardware) to the A6 in the '08 model are available for backdating.

--Dan

I, too, am anxious for this update. I am disappointed that we are beta testers for these improvements. I don't remember getting any compensation for testing this A6 for 17 months.

NorCalDelta 06-13-2007 12:26 AM

Took the 3 day Spring Mountain course in late March, on the final afternoon we ran hot laps with the option of switching from C5 Z06, C6 Z06 and the C6 with paddle shift auto. I initially ran the Z and was really fast, but for the last session I used the paddle shift. It blew me away! Extremely easy to use, seemed to match rpm's quite well in downshifting and coming out of the hole it screamed. Less wheel spin, and the torque converter seemed to launch with a real kick.

After the session talking to the others in the group, several had run faster in the auto than the C6 Z, probably because you can focus on the line and braking without dealing with heel/toe and clutch issues.

I think it's the sleeper - had no idea what a terrific package it offers. :thumbs:

Vasta 06-13-2007 12:36 AM

I enjoy using my paddles, I use them about 50% of the time.

Believe it or not they are really useful in heavy freeway stop and go traffic. Second is a long gear and its fun to run up and down with the engine revs as your driving. WTF -there is nothing else to do. :steering:

Perry Mason 06-13-2007 12:41 AM

First gear is pretty good, too.

Vasta 06-13-2007 12:48 AM


Originally Posted by Perry Mason (Post 1560648528)
First gear is pretty good, too.

True, but I only use first if traffic is really bogged down. The idea is not to shift at all to get the revs up so I can hear my GHL's. :reddevil

glennhl 06-13-2007 01:15 AM

Just got back from a 1600 mile trip to Estes Park, Colorado. The paddle shifter was made for the mountains. It was very easy to keep it in a gear for good acceleration up the mountain or good engine braking coming down the mountain. Gobs of fun!

vettecop1125 06-13-2007 03:59 AM

I test drove one and didn't like it. It seemed really busy and I had to really concentrate on the revs and which button to push. It just did not seem as "natural" as shifting the manual IMO.

kyoung 06-13-2007 01:59 PM

When the paddles are attached to a DSG instead of slush box then it will be time to move from MN6 and make paddle shifting worthwhile. Until they make that change what does it matter, you might as well have an old school push button. You buy an auto (slush box) for convenience not performance.

Big Lebowski 06-13-2007 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by Perry Mason (Post 1560646073)
I am a devout manual guy for over 40 years of buying and driving stick shift cars. My '06 C6 A6 is my first "automatic" and I shift only with the paddles. My C6 is my fifth Corvette and I am looking forward to the C7. How many of you stick people have found that the paddles, although not perfect, give you the same or better experience as the MN6? I like shifting as I did when I was a young man, but I enjoy the paddle shift. I have had my A6 for 17 months. In my MINI S car, I almost wish I had paddles. I still like shifting, but the paddles on my A6 have allowed me the control I demand when I drive. How about you?

Mr. Mason,

I couldn't agree more. i have always loved stick. However, all-round, the paddle shifters are a great product and a lot of fun.

I think the common trap is manual owners wanting a manual. It is really a different animal all together. Once you realise it is not a manual, but has many of the benefits and lacks a few negatives of manual shifting, you realise it is far more versatile for the daily enthusiast.

I have AutoStick in my Jeep SRT8 and it is no where near as much fun to play with.

LS1LT1 06-13-2007 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by Perry Mason (Post 1560646073)
I am a devout manual guy for over 40 years of buying and driving stick shift cars. My '06 C6 A6 is my first "automatic" and I shift only with the paddles. My C6 is my fifth Corvette and I am looking forward to the C7. How many of you stick people have found that the paddles, although not perfect, give you the same or better experience as the MN6? I like shifting as I did when I was a young man, but I enjoy the paddle shift. I have had my A6 for 17 months. In my MINI S car, I almost wish I had paddles. I still like shifting, but the paddles on my A6 have allowed me the control I demand when I drive. How about you?

Love 'em...love the paddles and I love the 6L80 transmission. :yesnod:



Originally Posted by kyoung (Post 1560654784)
You buy an auto (slush box) for convenience not performance.

I'm not sure that I could possibly disagree with you more. ;)
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glennhl 06-13-2007 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by kyoung (Post 1560654784)
When the paddles are attached to a DSG instead of slush box then it will be time to move from MN6 and make paddle shifting worthwhile. Until they make that change what does it matter, you might as well have an old school push button. You buy an auto (slush box) for convenience not performance.

You are definitely old school. Look at the 1/4 mile list, the A6 is the top dog in PERFORMANCE! There are other postings that state how the Spring Mountain students are quicker in the A6. I was also a died-in-the-wool manual person. This is my first auto and even though it's not as fun as the manual, it's definitely quicker.

rakuhn 06-13-2007 05:43 PM

I have PLAYED with the paddles however, the automatic works well for me. Guess perhaps I am lazy.

Come to think of it, my dad told me several times in my younger years that if breathing didn't come natural, I'd be dead. I think he may had a point there.

CHASLS2 06-13-2007 05:50 PM

I dont even know how to use my Paddles, seems everytime i try i select the wrong gear and or at the wrong speed.

JC7 06-13-2007 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by AUSTINAMP (Post 1560646490)
I use the paddles about 25 percent of the time. Very fun and although there is a delay still very efficient in my opinion. Also I like launching in 1st gear with the paddles.

Nothing is like having the shift on the floor, I had it on my 06, I thought is was worthless, now my 15 year old son who loves video games would dig it!


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