Changing Brake Pads HELP!
I've done a search to see if anyone has posted steps/pictures of changing brakes pads on C6 Z06, but I Can't find any. Some one please point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance!
I also welcome any comments about the pads I bought Hawks HP Plus. |
Originally Posted by Zee0hh6ix
(Post 1562000683)
I've done a search to see if anyone has posted steps/pictures of changing brakes pads on C6 Z06, but I Can't find any. Some one please point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance!
I also welcome any comments about the pads I bought Hawks HP Plus. 2. Turn the wheel so the caliper is more accessable 3. With the caliper on, use a flat blade screwdriver between the rotor and the pad to push the caliper piston back into the caliper. Do this for all 6 pads. Go back and do the first ones you did again because they will move out a little while the others are being pushed in. 4. Remove the 2 caliper mounting bolts (21mm if I recall) 5. Do not let the caliper hang by the hose 6. Pop out all 6 pads 7. Insert new pads. The 3 sided edge goes in first against the retainer clips, then push down until the notches align with the caliper guide pins 8. Install caliper. Torque to 100 lb-ft 9. Install wheels 10. PUMP BRAKE PEDAL until you have a firm pedal 11. Bed in the brakes. 40-10mph, 40-10mph, 60-10mph, 100-10mph, 100-10mph. Drive for 10 minutes without touching the brakes. This is the ideal way, obviously if you are on the street you will need to change this at your disgretion to remain safe. |
....and while you are at it bleed your brakes. My fluid was dark brown at 10,000 miles. The whole process should only take 2 hours with a friend helping.
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Originally Posted by Katech
(Post 1562000883)
1. Remove wheels
2. Turn the wheel so the caliper is more accessable 3. With the caliper on, use a flat blade screwdriver between the rotor and the pad to push the caliper piston back into the caliper. Do this for all 6 pads. Go back and do the first ones you did again because they will move out a little while the others are being pushed in. 4. Remove the 2 caliper mounting bolts (21mm if I recall) 5. Do not let the caliper hang by the hose 6. Pop out all 6 pads 7. Insert new pads. The 3 sided edge goes in first against the retainer clips, then push down until the notches align with the caliper guide pins 8. Install caliper. Torque to 100 lb-ft 9. Install wheels 10. PUMP BRAKE PEDAL until you have a firm pedal 11. Bed in the brakes. 40-10mph, 40-10mph, 60-10mph, 100-10mph, 100-10mph. Drive for 10 minutes without touching the brakes. This is the ideal way, obviously if you are on the street you will need to change this at your disgretion to remain safe. |
Thanks guys!!! This forum is great.
I gotta also thank Al Gore for inventing the internet. |
Originally Posted by AZ FASTEST
(Post 1562001218)
Page 5-104 of volume 1 of the 2006 GM Corvette Service Manual shows the caliper torque as 125 lbs not 100 lbs.
BTW2 you can also use the method in the service manual to change the pads by removing the guide pins rather than the caliper. I've been doing a combo method - taking off the calipers in the front (since that's relatively easy and I switch the rotors with the pads anyway) and removing only the center guide pin on each side of each rear caliper. |
I've been using the HP+ pads on the street and limited track. I like them even though they are a little noisy. I think they are a good compromise.
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Originally Posted by allanlaw
(Post 1562001388)
:iagree: That's been the spec on the caliper mounting bolts since C5's, maybe earlier. On the other hand, it would be nice if 100 lbs worked since my cheap portable impact wrench could handle that. BTW do you loctite the bolt?
BTW2 you can also use the method in the service manual to change the pads by removing the guide pins rather than the caliper. I've been doing a combo method - taking off the calipers in the front (since that's relatively easy and I switch the rotors with the pads anyway) and removing only the center guide pin on each side of each rear caliper. I'm doing brakes today for this weekend's HPDE at PIR so I'll try your rear method of removing only the center pad pin bolt. Thanks! |
Originally Posted by AZ FASTEST
(Post 1562001218)
Page 5-104 of volume 1 of the 2006 GM Corvette Service Manual shows the caliper torque as 125 lbs not 100 lbs.
Originally Posted by allanlaw
(Post 1562001388)
:iagree: That's been the spec on the caliper mounting bolts since C5's, maybe earlier. On the other hand, it would be nice if 100 lbs worked since my cheap portable impact wrench could handle that. BTW do you loctite the bolt?
BTW2 you can also use the method in the service manual to change the pads by removing the guide pins rather than the caliper. I've been doing a combo method - taking off the calipers in the front (since that's relatively easy and I switch the rotors with the pads anyway) and removing only the center guide pin on each side of each rear caliper. GM service manual does not say to use loctite. I wouldn't, considering they are being removed a lot. |
Originally Posted by Katech
(Post 1562003441)
Just verified GM service manual - 129 lb-ft
GM service manual does not say to use loctite. I wouldn't, considering they are being removed a lot. |
Originally Posted by Katech
(Post 1562003441)
Just verified GM service manual - 129 lb-ft
GM service manual does not say to use loctite. I wouldn't, considering they are being removed a lot. My memory is not clear (on this or on most points), but I kinda think maybe they come from the factory with a skosh of blue loctite on them ? ? Anyone? |
Originally Posted by Katech
(Post 1562000883)
3. With the caliper on, use a flat blade screwdriver between the rotor and the pad to push the caliper piston back into the caliper. Do this for all 6 pads.
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Originally Posted by GaryZ06
(Post 1562006137)
Jason this will not hurt the rotor?
You are using the tip of the screwdriver blade against the backing plate of the used pad. Remember, you do not need to be King Kong and pry like an animal. Slight pressure is all that's needs to compress the pistons. Mike :cheers: |
Originally Posted by allanlaw
(Post 1562003850)
Which service manual, Jason? The 2006 one sure says 125 (doesn't matter too much since 4 lbs is well within the error range for my Craftsman torque wrench).
My memory is not clear (on this or on most points), but I kinda think maybe they come from the factory with a skosh of blue loctite on them ? ? Anyone? Yes, they have that thick red loctite-like product on them from the factory.
Originally Posted by GaryZ06
(Post 1562006137)
Jason this will not hurt the rotor?
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Originally Posted by Short-Throw
(Post 1562006801)
No,
You are using the tip of the screwdriver blade against the backing plate of the used pad. Remember, you do not need to be King Kong and pry like an animal. Slight pressure is all that's needs to compress the pistons. Mike :cheers: |
Originally Posted by GaryZ06
(Post 1562006888)
I see....between the backing plate and the piston....Thanks Short-Throw and Jason
Thats not really what Short-Throw meant. Don't put a screwdriver between the piston and the pad. Do it between the pad and the rotor. Short-Throw meant to push on the tab that is on the backing plate of the pad, but its small and difficult to keep the screwdriver on there, so I put it between the pad and the rotor. |
Originally Posted by Katech
(Post 1562006992)
Thats not really what Short-Throw meant. Don't put a screwdriver between the piston and the pad. Do it between the pad and the rotor. Short-Throw meant to push on the tab that is on the backing plate of the pad, but its small and difficult to keep the screwdriver on there, so I put it between the pad and the rotor.
:iagree: Using the tab takes a steady hand and if it slips off you could damage the piston boot. Use the old pad for leverage. Mike |
Originally Posted by Katech
(Post 1562006992)
Thats not really what Short-Throw meant. Don't put a screwdriver between the piston and the pad. Do it between the pad and the rotor. Short-Throw meant to push on the tab that is on the backing plate of the pad, but its small and difficult to keep the screwdriver on there, so I put it between the pad and the rotor.
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Originally Posted by BARTOSZ
(Post 1562007583)
Could you please explain to me what does it mean?
"11. Bed in the brakes. 40-10mph, 40-10mph, 60-10mph, 100-10mph, 100-10mph." Thank you in advance. |
Follow up
Originally Posted by Katech
(Post 1562000883)
1. Remove wheels
2. Turn the wheel so the caliper is more accessable 3. With the caliper on, use a flat blade screwdriver between the rotor and the pad to push the caliper piston back into the caliper. Do this for all 6 pads. Go back and do the first ones you did again because they will move out a little while the others are being pushed in. 4. Remove the 2 caliper mounting bolts (21mm if I recall) 5. Do not let the caliper hang by the hose 6. Pop out all 6 pads 7. Insert new pads. The 3 sided edge goes in first against the retainer clips, then push down until the notches align with the caliper guide pins 8. Install caliper. Torque to 100 lb-ft 9. Install wheels 10. PUMP BRAKE PEDAL until you have a firm pedal 11. Bed in the brakes. 40-10mph, 40-10mph, 60-10mph, 100-10mph, 100-10mph. Drive for 10 minutes without touching the brakes. This is the ideal way, obviously if you are on the street you will need to change this at your disgretion to remain safe. I drove the car for less than a mile and the braking difference was very noticeable. I will bed the brakes before I drive it again, but how hard should I brake when doing this procedure? Thanks again for the step by step instructions!!!!:cheers: |
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