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Keith@VetteFinders 12-16-2007 08:58 PM

1957 "Airbox" Corvette - What is it?
 
I came across this article tonight and have never heard the "airbox" term. Can anyone fill me in on what it is?

Thanks,

Keith

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http://www.journal-news.com/hp/conte...orvettea1.html


Sunday, December 16, 2007

Three years ago, Bill Connell and Joel Lauman made a remarkable discovery inside a hog farmer's barn in rural Trenton that they likened to "finding a Picasso in your attic."

What they found rusting inside that old barn was an extremely rare piece of American automobile history — a 1957 Chevrolet "Airbox" Corvette.

Fewer than 50 of these racing-model cars were produced by Chevrolet and fewer than half of them are known to exist today. But even more surprising, the "Airbox" car Connell and Lauman found was the prototype, or "pilot car," used to produce all of the subsequent Corvettes in that 1957 line.

That meant the car had unique parts that wouldn't be found on any of the other "Airbox" Corvettes, making it truly one of a kind.

"This car is so rare that even the most-dedicated Corvette hobbyists have never seen anything like it," Connell said.

"The probability of us finding a car like this is unbelievable," said Lauman, 66, of Colerain Twp. "I wouldn't equate it to finding the Holy Grail, but it is kind of like that in an automobile sense."

Loren Smith 12-16-2007 09:31 PM

DZAuto has a super rare (1 of 1) 1956 Airbox! :cool:

63Corvette 12-16-2007 10:20 PM

Do a search.

Keith@VetteFinders 12-17-2007 12:24 AM

Tom:

Thanks for bringing me up to speed on the "airbox" function and the photos were awesome. Thanks!

Keith

vettecityman53 12-17-2007 01:56 AM

I dn't think you mentioned the "other" famous name for this wonder car....a 579E.....from the rpo option number, rpo579E. I think someday there will be more than 43 in existance.....thanks to an excellent knowledge base, an existance of brake parts, other necessary parts, and repro air boxes and brake ducts!!! The "forgotten" rare 57 is the rpo684...the heavy duty brake option with the 270 horse 2X4 car...there were ony an estimated 8 of these made. Very cool looking with the 2X4's, brake ducts under hood, wide wheels, etc. Wish I had either one!!!

53 Blue Flame Brett 12-17-2007 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by vettecityman53 (Post 1563202735)
I dn't think you mentioned the "other" famous name for this wonder car....a 579E.....from the rpo option number, rpo579E. I think someday there will be more than 43 in existance.....thanks to an excellent knowledge base, an existance of brake parts, other necessary parts, and repro air boxes and brake ducts!!! The "forgotten" rare 57 is the rpo684...the heavy duty brake option with the 270 horse 2X4 car...there were ony an estimated 8 of these made. Very cool looking with the 2X4's, brake ducts under hood, wide wheels, etc. Wish I had either one!!!

YOU CERTAINLY KNOW YOUR EARLY CORVETTES!!:flag: :thumbs:

Loren Smith 12-17-2007 09:38 AM

Cool pics, Tom. I thought I saw in Ken Kayser's book that there was an airbox built with the 250 hp engine? I'd look it up, but I loaned out my copy.

OldKarz 12-17-2007 10:15 AM

DZ- Thanks for the information! I for one now know the "airbox" story. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. :cheers:

Harps 12-17-2007 11:10 AM

Keith and Tom, thanks for posting this info. This is a facinating thread, and great to read.

It makes you want to go and pick up Ken's book for sure. :thumbs:

Rob

BLee 12-17-2007 11:18 AM

3 or 4 years ago at the NCRS Florida Regional someone brought out a real deal, really rough 57 airbox car. I wonder if that was the "barn find" that is mentioned in the article.

BL

66rag427 12-17-2007 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by Keith@VetteFinders (Post 1563202181)
Tom:

Thanks for bringing me up to speed on the "airbox" function and the photos were awesome. Thanks!

Keith

I am one of the lucky guys that gets to judge that very car (57 airbox) next month at our indoor mini meet in Dayton Ohio.

66rag427 12-17-2007 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by DZAUTO (Post 1563207600)
Well that's just tooooooooooo bad for you now Jerry. Since you opened your mouth, now you're going to be obligated to furnish photos (in detail) of the car, Airbox, connections, ducting, delete plates, brakes, steering, 8000rpm tach, etc, etc, etc. :D

I will get as many as I can and let you know. Brakes might be hard to get. Email me a specific list.

john neas 12-17-2007 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by BLee (Post 1563205598)
3 or 4 years ago at the NCRS Florida Regional someone brought out a real deal, really rough 57 airbox car. I wonder if that was the "barn find" that is mentioned in the article.

BL

Not the same car. However your car has been restored and was also in the Bloomington Gold Special this year. The car was raced by Bob Monat and was probably the most raced 57 in the 57-67 time frame. The car was restored by Legendary Motorcar Company and the restoration was a feature the past year on Speedvision Dream Car Garage. It is owned by the Hussey Brothers and may be at the Amelia Island Concour in March. Both cars have had great restorations and the owners are having a great time with the cars.
Regards

Keith@VetteFinders 12-17-2007 10:52 PM

I came across some additional information about this airbox Corvette that started the conversation. Here are some additonal photos with the captions from the story:

Link to Video about the Corvette and its restoration:
http://www.middletownjournal.com/m/mplayer/m/48886


Bill Howe's 1957 Airbox Corvette "4007" was partially disassembled and left in a barn in Butler County until it was purchased in 2005 by car historian Bill Connell and fully restored by restoration expert Joel Lauman.
http://www.corvetteblogger.com/image...t/121707_5.jpg


The 1957 Airbox Corvette featured finned brakes that facilitated cooling to prevent overheating during racing.
http://www.corvetteblogger.com/image...t/121707_8.jpg


Special duct work on the 1957 Corvette "4007" allowed ambient air from the car's airbox to cool its brakes.
http://www.corvetteblogger.com/image...t/121707_9.jpg


Corvette historian Ken Kayser spent two days in 2005 verifying the car purchased by Bill Connell and Joel Lauman was not only an authentic 1957 Airbox, but was the pilot car of the 43 that were manufactured that year.
http://www.corvetteblogger.com/image.../121707_10.jpg


The airbox on the 43 Airbox Corvettes that Chevorlet made in 1957 is one of the aspects that makes the car unique. The parts work together to help keep the engine and brakes from overheating. This picture shows the airbox before restoration.
http://www.corvetteblogger.com/image.../121707_11.jpg


Restoration Complete
http://www.corvetteblogger.com/image...t/121707_7.jpg


Additionally, I used the information gleaned from this thread on a post about the 1957 airbox Corvette on my Corvette Blog. I'd especially like to thank DZAUTO again for his background information on the airbox option. :cheers:

Keith

Tyler Townsley 12-18-2007 09:48 AM

Being on a dialup it takes me awhile to post. These were taken at Bloomington this year. Car was not completey done but they were gracious enough to bring it. I think they had painted the day before it got there.

http://deliquescence.net/~tyler/misc/57_1.jpg
http://deliquescence.net/~tyler/misc/57_2.jpg
http://deliquescence.net/~tyler/misc/57_3.jpg
http://deliquescence.net/~tyler/misc/57_4.jpg
http://deliquescence.net/~tyler/misc/57_5.jpg
http://deliquescence.net/~tyler/misc/57_6.jpg
http://deliquescence.net/~tyler/misc/57_7.jpg
http://deliquescence.net/~tyler/misc/57_8.jpg
http://deliquescence.net/~tyler/misc/57_9.jpg
and my favorite.
http://deliquescence.net/~tyler/misc/57_10.jpg

Tyler

L78racer 12-18-2007 10:41 AM

It looks like it also has a soft top (deck lid latches). I'm surprised a racer would have the soft top.

67L36Driver 12-18-2007 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by ls6racer (Post 1563219471)
It looks like it also has a soft top (deck lid latches). I'm surprised a racer would have the soft top.

Weight?:lurk:

What better way to loose extra pounds. On a C2 you can remove about 40# by removing the soft top. Just four bolts.:thumbs:

john neas 12-18-2007 11:42 AM

Tach Fairing
 

Originally Posted by DZAUTO (Post 1563219762)
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, Tyler, am I seeing red DUCT TAPE holding the tach on the steering column?????????

Tom this car had a metal tach fairing installed at the factory. Chevrolet droped this and several other items on later airbox cars.
Regards

revupL78 12-18-2007 12:21 PM

Thank you guys for the good thread. Always a pleasure to learn something new about corvette history. Plus it reminds be to pay a visit to the old timer down the road with a 57 in his garage that hasn't moved in 30 plus years. Maybe this time he will sell it :rofl:
:cool:

66rag427 12-18-2007 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by DZAUTO (Post 1563209407)
You don't need a list, when you look at it and judge it, take a picture and move on to the next item to be judged! :rofl:

That's not the way it works. I may doing interior which means I will not be judging the rest of the car. I can take any pics I want though.

Tyler Townsley 12-18-2007 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by DZAUTO (Post 1563219762)
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, Tyler, am I seeing red DUCT TAPE holding the tach on the steering column?????????

As I said the car was NOT completely done but since the theme was 57's and it was a special car they brought it. I expected some one else to post some pictures taken there as there were a LOT of people who saw it. Bloomington may have a lot of fluff about it but Bill Locke gets special cars and this year was one of those. Unfortunatly this next year (Celebrating L88s) will be the last year of a special collection since it brings in no revenue.

Tyler

john neas 12-18-2007 05:13 PM

Soft Top
 

Originally Posted by ls6racer (Post 1563219471)
It looks like it also has a soft top (deck lid latches). I'm surprised a racer would have the soft top.

There were a number of these race option 57s ordered with both tops. The car was bought new picked up at the factory by a Chevrolet dealer and his intent was to race the car in 57 and then sell it. A two top car might have been easier to sell. The car I have is similar ie two tops and it was a sold unit probably before it ran its last two races (Watkins Glen and Bridgehamton). I believe the sales invoice called for Rosenthal Chevrolet to fix cracks. I dont believe the soft top ever made it back into the car.
Regards

john neas 12-18-2007 05:22 PM

Metal fairing
 

Originally Posted by DZAUTO (Post 1563222135)
John,
I read about this in Ken's book, and was somewhat unclear as to just what he was talking about (I can't find the page right now, but I'll keep looking until I find the page). Now it is a little more clear.
I wonder just how many of these metal fairings exist today?????
WE NEED MORE PICTURES OF THIS FAIRING! WHO CAN POST THEM?????

There may only be one of these fairings to start with. I think that Joel and Bill may have had it in the junk pile until Ken Kayser told them that it belonged on the car.
Regards

john neas 12-18-2007 05:38 PM

Spring clamps with bolt and spacer
 

Originally Posted by Keith@VetteFinders (Post 1563215348)
I came across some additional information about this airbox Corvette that started the conversation. Here are some additonal photos with the captions from the story:

Link to Video about the Corvette and its restoration:
http://www.middletownjournal.com/m/mplayer/m/48886


Bill Howe's 1957 Airbox Corvette "4007" was partially disassembled and left in a barn in Butler County until it was purchased in 2005 by car historian Bill Connell and fully restored by restoration expert Joel Lauman.
http://www.corvetteblogger.com/image...t/121707_5.jpg


Special duct work on the 1957 Corvette "4007" allowed ambient air from the car's airbox to cool its brakes.
http://www.corvetteblogger.com/image...t/121707_9.jpg


Corvette historian Ken Kayser spent two days in 2005 verifying the car purchased by Bill Connell and Joel Lauman was not only an authentic 1957 Airbox, but was the pilot car of the 43 that were manufactured that year.
http://www.corvetteblogger.com/image.../121707_10.jpg


The airbox on the 43 Airbox Corvettes that Chevorlet made in 1957 is one of the aspects that makes the car unique. The parts work together to help keep the engine and brakes from overheating. This picture shows the airbox before restoration.
http://www.corvetteblogger.com/image.../121707_11.jpg


Restoration Complete
http://www.corvetteblogger.com/image...t/121707_7.jpg


Additionally, I used the information gleaned from this thread on a post about the 1957 airbox Corvette on my Corvette Blog. I'd especially like to thank DZAUTO again for his background information on the airbox option. :cheers:

Keith

Please note the bolts and spacers through the clamps on the RPO684 five leaf springs. This was only on the early cars. On the later cars the clamps were folded over and the bolts and spacers were gone.


Regards

L78racer 12-18-2007 08:08 PM

in the film clip showing the car pulling out of a building; it appears the fairing is not there. just a quick glimpse, you see the silver outer tach head.

john neas 12-18-2007 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by ls6racer (Post 1563226733)
in the film clip showing the car pulling out of a building; it appears the fairing is not there. just a quick glimpse, you see the silver outer tach head.

Mistake. The fairing was vinyl. The owners have pictures when the car was new. The fairing was under the farmers bed when they purchased the car. If you want to talk to one of the owners this evening call.
Bill Connell before 11.00 pm EST 12-18-07
513-281-0678

L78racer 12-19-2007 12:17 AM


Originally Posted by john neas (Post 1563229359)
Mistake. The fairing was vinyl. The owners have pictures when the car was new. The fairing was under the farmers bed when they purchased the car. If you want to talk to one of the owners this evening call.
Bill Connell before 11.00 pm EST 12-18-07
513-281-0678

not disputing it. just don't see it in the film clip.

bill connell 12-19-2007 12:32 PM

soft top on airbox
 
Bill Howe took delivery of the car with the soft top, courtesy light and whitewall tires, which are clearly shown in period photographs of the car being delivered at the factory on 5/16/57 The "frills" however were removed prior to the car's first race at the Cumberland National SCCA event on 5/19/57. Bill was a Chevrolet dealer, and ordered the frills to make the car easier to sell off his lot at the end of the race season.

Originally Posted by 67L36Driver (Post 1563219754)
Weight?:lurk:

What better way to loose extra pounds. On a C2 you can remove about 40# by removing the soft top. Just four bolts.:thumbs:


bill connell 12-19-2007 12:52 PM

airbox tach fairing
 
Given Ken Kayser's belief that the 4007 car was the pilot for subsequent RPO 579D production, he believes the fairing was a "one off" out of GM Engineering (as are other parts on the car), and was simply discarded from later production cars for cost and line effeciency reasons. He identified similar fairings on various race and show cars built in the Engineering shop. We have period photos of the fairing on the car at time of delivery, during later races, and at the time the car was removed from the barn over forty years later

Originally Posted by DZAUTO (Post 1563222135)
John,
I read about this in Ken's book, and was somewhat unclear as to just what he was talking about (I can't find the page right now, but I'll keep looking until I find the page). Now it is a little more clear.
I wonder just how many of these metal fairings exist today?????
WE NEED MORE PICTURES OF THIS FAIRING! WHO CAN POST THEM?????


bill connell 12-19-2007 03:36 PM

pictures
 
[Tom,

Being a bit of a techniphobe, this is my first venture into a chat room. Indeed, I really didn't know what a chat room was until John Neas called me Sunday morning to tell me that 4007 was a popular subject of discussion! John was then kind enough to take me by the hand and lead me through the process of finding you guys.

Now,as to pictures, I don't have a clue as to how one goes about putting photographs on a computer. There are however a ton of pictures of the car already circulating from Bloomngton and Carlisle, not to mention last Sundays' news story.We are hopeful that we can finish the car within the coming year,and look forward to the time when everybody can see it in real life.



QUOTE=DZAUTO;1563235599]Hey Bill,
Great to see you here!!!!
Now, on with the details about 4007!
Oh ya----------------AND MORE PICTURES!!! :thumbs:
Since a picture is worth 1000 words, and if you post 100 pictures, then you won't have to say much! :rofl:[/QUOTE]

DZAUTO 12-19-2007 03:42 PM

I fully understanding EXACTLY what you mean by posting pictures. When I first started trying----------------AND I MEAN TRYING------------------to post pictures, I became very frustrated! But, finally, after a while, I got it figured out and now I can post pictures with no difficulty.

62Jeff 12-19-2007 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by bill connell (Post 1563237977)
Tom,

Being a bit of a techniphobe, this is my first venture into a chat room. I...

Welcome Bill, this place is full of nice and helpful people. Looks like you have a great car there.

Jeff

LouieM 12-19-2007 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by DZAUTO (Post 1563203951)
, Ken Kayser has now put everyone on their ear with his revelations in his new book.

Do you have a complete reference to this book? I've not heard of it and just did a quick google search and couldn't find it. Thanks.

bill connell 12-19-2007 05:09 PM

Kayser book
 
Louie,

To see the Kayser book, go to
tachometerpress.com. Their web page shows a table of contents, and provides order forms for both the soft cover and the hard cover----but somebody told me the hardcover limited edtion is sold out.

Originally Posted by LouieM (Post 1563238781)
Do you have a complete reference to this book? I've not heard of it and just did a quick google search and couldn't find it. Thanks.


LouieM 12-19-2007 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by bill connell (Post 1563239332)
Louie,

To see the Kayser book, go to
tachometerpress.com. Their web page shows a table of contents, and provides order forms for both the soft cover and the hard cover----but somebody told me the hardcover limited edtion is sold out.

Bill, thanks for the info, I'll go look it up. Thanks also for your diligence in tracking down 4007. A favor to all of us! How exciting you must have been to get hold of it and to see it emerging from its burial in dust and time. :thumbs:

Lou

bill connell 12-19-2007 09:59 PM

tach fairing
 
tom,

I don't know how to post photos yet, but if you would like a picture of the fairing, I'd be happy to mail you one. Just e-mail me your postal address, and I'll send you one. My e-mail address is wbconnell@cinci.rr.com. You can also feel free to call me at (513) 281-0678.

Bill

Originally Posted by DZAUTO (Post 1563222135)
John,
I read about this in Ken's book, and was somewhat unclear as to just what he was talking about (I can't find the page right now, but I'll keep looking until I find the page). Now it is a little more clear.
I wonder just how many of these metal fairings exist today?????
WE NEED MORE PICTURES OF THIS FAIRING! WHO CAN POST THEM?????


scotty t 12-19-2007 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by revupL78 (Post 1563220708)
Thank you guys for the good thread. Always a pleasure to learn something new about corvette history. Plus it reminds be to pay a visit to the old timer down the road with a 57 in his garage that hasn't moved in 30 plus years. Maybe this time he will sell it :rofl:
:cool:

naaah he's going to restore it some day!:D

vettecityman53 12-20-2007 12:55 AM

Airbox cars, or 579E's (or, 579D's??) have always fascinated me. I remember many years ago when one appeared, in full-restored form at Cypress Gardens (mid-1080's???). This was the first one to be seen restored. I don't remember who owned it, but I do remember he actually had two of them. The first restored car got a top-flight and was later sold. It was white with a red interior with silver coves. I also believe it was on a cover of "Vettevues." I also remember a very late 1957 that appeared for sale in the late 1980's in California, Missouri. It was a 270 horse car with the RPO 684 brake option. This guy couldn't commit to sell it.....first he wanted to sell, then later he wouldn't. I tried to buy it for years and the got tired of calling him (nagging him...). Later, I heard he had either sold it or traded it for a mid-year big block.

This thread is bring back to life my interests in these "airbox" cars. I consider these to be the first REAL public attempt to enter the racing scene by Chevrolet...thus the first real racing Corvettes.

I am wondering about the information about airboxes being installed on "other" Corvettes. As I understand it, the airbox cars were built without the metal reinforcements in the rocker panel areas. These metal reinforcements appeared in mid-1957 and appeared before airbox cars were built. These were eliminated for the RPO 684 option, which appeared on all 43 airbox cars. The RPO 684 option appeared earlier in the production year, before the reinforcements were in place. I am just wondering this; is there the possibility of a 1957 existing with the airbox but without the RPO 684 brake and suspension option??? I know the official airbox offering was the fuel injected motor, heavy duty brakes/suspension, radio and heater delete. It would be fascinating to know if there is an airbox car without the heavy duty brakes and suspension (and body modifications), and only having the airbox as a body modification.

Further, there is a registry for corvette race cars......fascinating reading...and sheds more light on this topic...


http://registryofcorvetteracecars.com/ee/index.php

vettecityman53 12-20-2007 12:57 AM

.....for those of you who don't want to read through my previous long-winded pondering....look at this registry link...

http://registryofcorvetteracecars.com/ee/index.php

Paul Borowski 12-20-2007 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by DZAUTO (Post 1563203951)
is strong enough to support that the Airbox RPO was 579D---------------NOT 579E. .... and decide for yourself if the Airbox option is 579 D or E.

...I can understand this as the 579"D" probably stood for "Ducts"...:D

...the 250hp/PG AirBox car is the one I'd want.:thumbs: Probably ONE OF ONE.:cheers:

I'm Batman 12-20-2007 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by Paul Borowski (Post 1563253353)
Probably ONE OF ONE.:cheers:

So was the Chartreuse 77. :D

john neas 12-21-2007 12:14 PM

For those who have an interest in the "airbox" Corvette, I will pass along this picture of two of the most knowledgeable Airbox Experts: Frank Buck on the left and Dick Robinson in the center.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g6...rlisle0001.jpg

Frank Buck had done much research in the eighties and owned more of the cars than I believe anyone else. Dick has restored a significant porton of the "Airbox" population.

Regards.

59t-tom 12-21-2007 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by 66rag427 (Post 1563207108)
I am one of the lucky guys that gets to judge that very car (57 airbox) next month at our indoor mini meet in Dayton Ohio.

Jerry,

Do you have more info on your meet? I didn't see anything on the Miami Valley Chapter site or is it not NCRS?

I can see that I need to add Ken's book to my library immediately. Is there any reference in the book to the small number of Chrysler letter cars ('57 or '58) that were produced with the Rochester FI? I have some old manuals that have info on them and have seen a few pictures over the years. I passed on a '57 Pontiac Bonneville FI in 1966. It was on the back row of a Dodge dealer in Auburn IN for $175.00. Too much money and needed too much work.

This is one of the best threads I've read in a long time.

Tom

john neas 12-21-2007 02:27 PM

The following pictures were taken at Bloomington Gold Special Collection 2007. All cars are RPO 684 and most have RPO 579 D(E).

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/JohnNeas/59.jpg
Bill Connell & Joel Lauman - '57 #4007

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/JohnNeas/60.jpg
John Justo (ex Rich & Char Mason) - '57 #5938

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/JohnNeas/61.jpg
Sean, Kevin, & Kent Hussey - '57 #4387

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/JohnNeas/64.jpg
Alvin & Ronnie Steinman - '57 #5305 (RPO 684 only)

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/JohnNeas/65.jpg
Greg & Barbara Heinrich - '57 #5084

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/JohnNeas/66.jpg
Larry J. and Linda Martin - '57 #6023

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/JohnNeas/68.jpg
Irwin Krioz - '57 #5655

Tyler Townsley 12-23-2007 07:01 PM

I owe John Neas a dinner but being the frugal type maybe this will suffice. John a web site for your car and its friends, will this do?

http://deliquescence.net/~tyler/57_racer/index.html

Tyler

examiner 12-14-2009 02:15 AM

1957 airbox corvette
 
Last week I located a 1957 airbox corvette in South China, Maine in a farmers barn.It has been sitting there for years but appears to be all there.
He's willing to sell it but wants a fair price of which he has no idea and for that fact neither do I.
Anyone Know what the car is worth so I can make him a fair offer? I am buying it to resell so if anyone is also a buyer let me know.
All I need to do to get the car is come up with what the farmer feels is a fair offer. Again,It needs complete restoration but it appears to be all there.

thank you , Chris.... twinsrule2@verizon.net

Dr L-88 12-14-2009 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by DZAUTO (Post 1563291778)
Here is the somewhat unique car of Art Saylor.
According to VERY CONVINCING documentation, this car was FACTORY BUILT as an Airbox car WITH the full 579D/684 pkg (HD brakes/susp). It is the next to last 57 built.
The original purchaser of the car (exact reason unknown) requested that it be changed to a 270hp 2x4 configuration. I obtained these pictures from another source and discussed this car with John Neas, thus, between John and I, here is what I'm posting. If John has additional info (or needs to correct any errors) he may step in with more comments.
But my main point is that this is an example of a NON-FI car with the 684 pkg.
Now, here is a personal comment of my own.
MANY, MANY years ago, there was supposedly a 57 Corvette in existance that had in fact been built as an FI car, with HD brakes/susp, and then converted (by St. Louis or a dealer???????????????) to a 270hp car. Did it really exist? I don't know, I never saw the car with my own eyes. BUT, several Corvette knowledgeable friends of mine SAID they either knew for sure of its existance or had seen it. As everyone knows, you can't believe everything you hear and only half of what you see.
Although, the pictures of the car below fit perfectly with the story about the car that I heard about many years ago, is it the same car? Don't know, plus, my friends from long ago (over 30yrs ago) are now gone.
And let me add this. As all knowledgeable early Corvette people know, the tachometers were driven by the generator, EXCEPT for the later 57 FI engines with a 908 dist, as well as the 58-61 solid lifter FI engines that had the tach drive dist. Everything else had the tach driven by the genreator.
Notice that the generator in the pictures below DOES NOT have a gear reduction housing for the tach cable. Thus, the tach must be driven by a distributor, and the dist appears to be a 908 dist!!!!!

Oh ya, by the way, notice the well known autographs on the dash!

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...ctures0447.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...ctures0449.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...ctures0450.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...ctures0452.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...ctures0451.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...ctures0455.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...ctures0454.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...ctures0448.jpg

Well.................................cou lda,......... woulda,........ certainly shoulda. I had an opportunity to buy this car back in the early 80's from a guy who worked at a Chevy dealership in Missouri ............for $10K. It was painted yellow at the time and had made its way from California to Montana to Missouri. Car was very rough and considered a basket case. So, fortunately (yeah, right!!) my wife "convinced me" to not buy this one that needed so much work. I did a bit of research on the car and have some pics of it in its yellow attire at the time. I think it was sold to Frank Buck who had it restored and it was then for sale in Hemmings for $85K. I still have the ad somewhere.

Rex

jim lockwood 12-14-2009 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by examiner (Post 1572422763)
Last week I located a 1957 airbox corvette in South China, Maine..... I am buying it to resell so if anyone is also a buyer let me know.

How about providing some pictures of the car and, while you are at it, filling out your profile so we can get to know you better?

Jim

Frankie the Fink 12-14-2009 09:08 AM

What is that chrome object laying flat to the left of the gear shift lever ??
Never seen one of those..

Ron Miller 12-14-2009 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by fdreano (Post 1572423896)
What is that chrome object laying flat to the left of the gear shift lever ??
Never seen one of those..

I'm gonna make a WAG here, and probably about 180* out, but it looks like it could be a plate clamped to the left side of the shifter surround to function as a reverse lockout. If so, it wouldn't let you inadvertantly move the shifter over to go into reverse.

How'd I do? :D

67L36Driver 12-14-2009 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by Ron Miller (Post 1572424177)
I'm gonna make a WAG here, and probably about 180* out, but it looks like it could be a plate clamped to the left side of the shifter surround to function as a reverse lockout. If so, it wouldn't let you inadvertantly move the shifter over to go into reverse.

How'd I do? :D

+1
:withstupid:


Originally Posted by examiner
Last week I located a 1957 airbox corvette in South China, Maine..... I am buying it to resell so if anyone is also a buyer let me know.
:rolleyes:

Someone pulling our collective chain?

jim lockwood 12-14-2009 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by 67L36Driver (Post 1572425132)

Someone pulling our collective chain?

I think someone is trying (unsuccessfully) to. :toetap:

Jim

caboman 10-27-2015 05:07 PM

I just found out my Cousin's fiancé has 2 1957 Corvettes in her garage that haven't moved in years. I am dying to see them. Her dad raced them so they might actually be Airbox vettes. I think both had the hardtop option with them. I am trying to get a look at them but she is reluctant. She says they are covered with junk. I think she is too embarrassed to show me the inside of the garage.




So the story as I know it is her dad bought them new and raced. He passed away many years ago and technically belong to her mom who she lives with. These ladies are of meager means and they both state they are cherished and wont be sold. Hell I just want to look at them. two 57 Vettes in a garage for many years. Hell yes I want to see them. The really sad thing is she is on dialysis and waiting for a kidney. Oh how I want to see those 2 cars.

65hihp 10-27-2015 09:32 PM

I suppose that prospect is worth re-animating an eight year old thread, just so long as caboman doesn't pull a fast one and never revisit the CF again!

caboman 10-27-2015 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by 65hihp (Post 1590785206)
I suppose that prospect is worth re-animating an eight year old thread, just so long as caboman doesn't pull a fast one and never revisit the CF again!

I will be around. I won't rest until I see those 2 57 vettes. I will report back once I do.

DZAUTO 10-27-2015 11:33 PM

Soooooooooooo, with all this discussion, what about cloned airbox/FI/HD brake cars? Are there any-----------------besides mine?

68hemi 08-17-2018 03:10 PM

Resurrecting this old thread.

Reading this about the first page NJ found air box car reported to be the "prototype" Makes me wonder what has been learned and proven since my experience with these cars from back in the late 70s.
My name is Darryl Dayton my phone number is 928-239-0017 for anyone that wants to talk about MY old car.

Much of this below info is copied and pasted from emails I have saved from years past communicating with several knowledgeable people on 1957 racers. It is old info and there certainly may be new info that contradicts what I am saying.

About 1976 myself and partner Jerry Gendreau purchased V.I.N. 834 from a garage very close to the Mississippi river outside of Savanna Illinois. The car was in very poor condition as it had been partially under water in the big 1965 flood of the river. After talking to several "Corvette guys" that were far more knowledgeable about air box cars then us (which did not take much as neither one of us had ever heard of one) at the urging of Mike Hunt we took the car to an NCRS meet in Rockford Ill. around 1977. It was inspected by Mike Hunt and many others there and was photographed by and later pictured in Nolan Adams first book showing the engine compartment. The caption for the picture was "would you buy this mess?" as the car was as found and we only had limited info as to what we actually had at that time. See the NCRS RESTORER magazine Vol 5-4 and 13-2 for Mike Hunt's stories on the car back in the day. Mike pasted away in July 2007, but his research is still being treasured by Ken Kayser, and other 57 history freaks. Back in those days, Mike had 17 "air box" cars identified (today there are 29 of the 43 made), and this car was one that he felt was legit even though the air box cars production fall into the vin number 3950-6339 ranged of May 57 production and later. The late Mike Hunt, the authority at that time on these cars said it could only be the mule car for the Sebring cars with as early a V.I.N. as it had. I hope to hear if this is still thought of as true and any other documented updated info about all of this. According to Mike Hunt at that time it was the first factory 57 Fuel Injected car built in late 1956 and had the famous cold air box, big brakes and suspension. It like the rest car for the Sebring races, where supposed to have been recalled to GM and destroyed when they banned factory sponsored racing, however as was the custom back then it "slipped out the back door" later to show up at Elkhart Lake racing. My research indicates the car was raced by Jim Jeffords at Elkhart Lake and sold there to the owner prior to the owner we bought the car from. Jerry and I both knew this man as well as he lived only about 14 miles from us.

I sold my interest in the car to Jerry early on around 1978. The car was missing many of the rare parts and over the course of several years he managed to locate most of them. He later sold the car and parts as a basket case to Tim Partridge. Tim restored the car and painted to appear as a Sebring racer and offered for sale. At one of the CORVETTES AT CARLISLE's RACE CAR REUNION, which occurs every five years,Tim Partridge was present with vin #832, (this may be a typo on the V.I.N.) which is his TRIBUTE #P3 race SEBRING car. At some point Tim sold the vin #834 car to I believe Jim Jeager past CEO Cincinnati Microwave inventor of the Escort radar detectors--current owner of our old Corvette V.I.N.834 air box car

This will make all of you chuckle. We paid $2000. for this car when we found it. LOL! Can only guess what the value of this car is today.
Much of the info gathered and shared here is OLD from around 2009 from conversations with the two below people.
Jim Gessner
1346 Laurelwood Lane
Mentone, CA 92359
909-794-7905

jim@vettefinderjim.com
Dom
Acquisitions & Historical Research
Racing Preservation Museum "-Preserving the memory of those On the track, In the pits & Behind the scenes-"
301.706.4855

rpm57scca@aol.com






firstgenaddict 10-17-2018 10:29 AM

Bill Rhodes from Concord NC restored an AIRBOX car in the mid - late 70's... he found the car in Florida in 74. He is a wealth of knowledge in regards to these cars.
I was up at his place a few years ago, so he is still around though he is not into Corvettes any longer. He has restored some Ferrari's for Pebble and raced Porsche's in the ensuing years but now he is into FLAT HEAD FORD V-8's, UGH... oh well, maybe since Zora played with them (ARDUN HEADS) I will give him a pass.
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68hemi 10-17-2018 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by firstgenaddict (Post 1598174209)
Bill Rhodes from Concord NC restored an AIRBOX car in the mid - late 70's... he found the car in Florida in 74. He is a wealth of knowledge in regards to these cars.
I was up at his place a few years ago, so he is still around though he is not into Corvettes any longer. He has restored some Ferrari's for Pebble and raced Porsche's in the ensuing years but now he is into FLAT HEAD FORD V-8's, UGH... oh well, maybe since Zora played with them (ARDUN HEADS) I will give him a pass.
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That is a name from the past. He was at the Rockford, Illinois NCRS meet where we took 834 to it and he pretty much freaked out when he found out the V.I.N. Up until that time he had the lowest V.I.N. airbox car. Things have changed a lot since then with more cars coming to light. There are many more people out there that likely have more knowledge then he has simply from the time passing and much more info uncovered about these cars.

firstgenaddict 10-17-2018 03:51 PM

There are some color photos on REV's institute site of an EARLY airbox car. From the photos it looks like the airbox may be raw fiberglass..

68hemi 10-17-2018 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by firstgenaddict (Post 1598176525)
There are some color photos on REV's institute site of an EARLY airbox car. From the photos it looks like the airbox may be raw fiberglass..

Do you have a link?

firstgenaddict 10-18-2018 08:15 PM

https://library.revsinstitute.org/di...on=p17257coll1


From 56...
Windsor Air Field Bahamas 12-3-56.
https://library.revsinstitute.org/di...on=p17257coll1

https://library.revsinstitute.org/di...on=p17257coll1

2-22-56 Daytona.
https://library.revsinstitute.org/di...on=p17257coll1


https://library.revsinstitute.org/di...on=p17257coll1

Here's a measly little z06 I pulled out the Rockies a few years back...
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...8b3997ac2c.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...29a8baf6de.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...66ed6eef8c.jpg

68hemi 10-18-2018 11:36 PM


Originally Posted by firstgenaddict (Post 1598176525)
There are some color photos on REV's institute site of an EARLY airbox car. From the photos it looks like the airbox may be raw fiberglass..

Yes, it does. The one in my car was painted with a thick black paint but the car was 10 years old when I got it. The fiberglass appeared to be hand laid and very crude finish like that one.

firstgenaddict 10-19-2018 11:48 PM

FWIW REVS Institute has an enormous amount of vintage racing photos... just go into the search and put corvette and a year...


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