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pmihaltian 03-16-2008 07:48 AM

Timing Chain Replacement?
 
Some fellow Forum members have recommended replacing the timing chain and associated gearing on L98 engines after approximately 100,000 miles. They claim that, over time, the chain stretches throwing off the cam timing. Moreover, with age there is the possiblity of chain failure which can have a catastrophic effect on various engine components.

My question being is this a legitimate concern and should I plan on completing this as routine maintenance? Also, I have read that the 96 GS engines have a special forged chain, as opposed to cast, and high strength forged gears with needle bearings. Will this set up work on an L98 engine? Should I just use OEM timing gear as a replacement or is there a better replacement option? ANY IDEAS?

AGENT 86 03-16-2008 08:10 AM

At 100k, I say it's a good time. Here's my 100k chain. Slopping chain and the nylon on gear is cracked and missing pieces.
I replaced it with a cloyes street roller timing set. Reasonable price for a true roller chain.
http://members.shaw.ca/agent86/Winte...2006%20081.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/agent86/Winte...2006%20082.jpg

MK 82 03-16-2008 09:27 AM

You don't want an LT4 timing chain. This is used because of the cam driven water pump.

.I would use this one.

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...3&autoview=sku

coupeguy2001 03-16-2008 01:50 PM

timing chain
 
I have 138,000 miles on my chain. I am a little apprehensive about continuing much longer with that plastic gear. I had a pickup with 154,000 miles with the plastic gear, and it was ok when I sold it, but the guy I sold it to I told to change the chain and gears soon.
I am guessing 140,000 is the max safe life that I would expect using sythetic oil as part of your normal oil change regime.

pmihaltian 03-16-2008 01:50 PM

Thanks guys :thumbs:

Curveit 03-16-2008 01:52 PM

:iagree: with most all the above, but I've heard that some chain covers won't clear a Double-roller.

:chevy

jhammons01 03-16-2008 02:09 PM

just a quick question

Are the '84s like this?

Jacki&GeneZ16 07-10-2018 01:36 AM

I have 205,000 miles on my 1987 L98, pressing the "Loud-button" frequently over the past 13 years. Recently I've started to experience symptoms of a stretch timing chain. So it is finally time to change it and the sprockets.

mtwoolford 07-10-2018 02:43 AM

when you remove the timing chain cover and see the slop in that oem chain, you will see that your concerns were well justified. A double "true roller" timing chain with its associated sprockets is money well spent

Joe C 07-10-2018 03:18 AM


Originally Posted by mtwoolford (Post 1597567273)
when you remove the timing chain cover and see the slop in that oem chain, you will see that your concerns were well justified. A double "true roller" timing chain with its associated sprockets is money well spent

:iagree: replaced my 85's with a cloyes double roller around the 110K mark. as I recall, around $60 at summit racing. while you're at it, replace the harmonic balancer (w/ GM service replacement), and the pan gasket with a one-piece felpro. triple up on the money well spent - :thumbs:


clove86 07-10-2018 08:58 AM

Why cloyes?
What's wrong with the summit oe replacement?
I'm looking for opinions to buy the best timing set and ham balancer

Bfenty 07-10-2018 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by Joe C (Post 1597567309)
:iagree: replaced my 85's with a cloyes double roller around the 110K mark. as I recall, around $60 at summit racing. while you're at it, replace the harmonic balancer (w/ GM service replacement), and the pan gasket with a one-piece felpro. triple up on the money well spent - :thumbs:

You mean the gasket for the oil pan, or the one for the crankshaft right behind the balancer? I've replaced my balancer but getting close to 100k and thinking of doing these other things.

Joe C 07-10-2018 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by clove86 (Post 1597568042)
Why cloyes?
What's wrong with the summit oe replacement?
I'm looking for opinions to buy the best timing set and ham balancer

nothing wrong with summit OE replacement. I selected cloyes based on past experience. for my harmonic balancer, just went with (GM) AC Delco thru my local dealer. (Bfenty) i'm referring to the oil pan gasket. I've never replaced the timing chain without re-doing the pan gasket. most will agree, the one piece felpro is top shelf. :thumbs:

mtwoolford 07-10-2018 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by clove86 (Post 1597568042)
Why cloyes?
What's wrong with the summit oe replacement?
I'm looking for opinions to buy the best timing set and ham balancer

whatever brand you decide on, get a "true roller" style timing chain; each round part of the link actually rolls on its own little axle as it engages the timing sprocket...if its not a "true roller" it may look the same, but lacks this feature.

383vett 07-10-2018 11:07 AM

Cloyes True Roller here to add to this 10 year old thread.

Joe C 07-10-2018 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by 383vett (Post 1597568860)
Cloyes True Roller here to add to this 10 year old thread.

...and it's been about 10 years since I replaced my original timing chain assembly - :D

trying to remember - here's the cloyes assembly I think I used --

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...c623a5fe87.jpg

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/c...model/corvette

:thumbs:

Bfenty 07-10-2018 05:24 PM

dumb question but is the chain on the front or back of the engine? How hard is it to replace? Seems like it could be a tricky one...


Cloyes True Roller here to add to this 10 year old thread.
Wow I didn't notice when it was started...talk about a necro thread. geez.

Joe C 07-10-2018 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by Bfenty (Post 1597571289)
dumb question but is the chain on the front or back of the engine? How hard is it to replace? Seems like it could be a tricky one...



Wow I didn't notice when it was started...talk about a necro thread. geez.

front of the engine behind the water pump. not so much tricky, as a fair amount of work - need to remove pretty much the front of the engine. with the harmonic balancer, as I said, might as well replace it while you're there. same goes with the oil pan gasket, and give consideration to the water pump if you're running an original. when I originally did mine, I replaced valve stem seals, injectors, plug wires, belt and hoses, and a host of other stuff. it's all considered project creep - you know, while you're at it, might as well take care of this, that, and the other....


Bfenty 07-11-2018 12:23 AM


Originally Posted by Joe C (Post 1597571874)
front of the engine behind the water pump. not so much tricky, as a fair amount of work - need to remove pretty much the front of the engine. with the harmonic balancer, as I said, might as well replace it while you're there. same goes with the oil pan gasket, and give consideration to the water pump if you're running an original. when I originally did mine, I replaced valve stem seals, injectors, plug wires, belt and hoses, and a host of other stuff. it's all considered project creep - you know, while you're at it, might as well take care of this, that, and the other....

already did the balancer, it went bad on me. I need to do valve stem seals I think too, and yeah the oil pan gasket as well...why not just rebuild the whole dang thing (which I'm seriously considering, posted in another thread)

Joe C 07-11-2018 02:25 AM


Originally Posted by Bfenty (Post 1597573539)
already did the balancer, it went bad on me. I need to do valve stem seals I think too, and yeah the oil pan gasket as well...why not just rebuild the whole dang thing (which I'm seriously considering, posted in another thread)

:yesnod:- now you're starting to understand project creep. owning a C4 is not for the faint of heart. you only need three things - a FSM, a decent tool set, and no fear. remember, it's just nuts and bolts, and pieces-parts. - :rofl:



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