England Green 440 Results
Well I got my 2004 Z06 back from England Green (Gulf Coast Performance) and I am very happy with the results.
The specs are as follows: Ls7 Block Callies Compstar 4.1 Crank Callies 6.125 Rods Wiesco Pistons ARP hardware TFS 235 Heads 10% Underdrive Pulley Melling Oil Pump CTSV Lifters Yella Terra Rockers LS2 Pan EG Chaos Cam LG 1 3/4 Headers Ti Exhaust Catch Can 60 lbs Injectors Boost-A-Pump Racetronics Hotwire The car cranked out 546rwhp and 517 rwtq SAE corrected on a very hot day. The car is deceptively fast and not all too loud at idle. I know I am sacrificing about 30 rwhp because of the Tis, and maybe some more because of the 13/4 headers, but I think I’m going to leave it the way it is for now. Took it to the dragstrip and ran an 11.8 at 127.31 with a 2.016 60 ft. Given that I only am on 555rIIs, I had to back out of second during that pass. My other 3 passes were abortions, since I could not get the car to hook and the Textralia was locking me out of 4th. (I ran an 11.9 at 121 with 434/402 rwhp/rwtq on the same tires, which also gave me traction problems back then). Thank you Jason and Stephen for all your hard work on this build and customer support!!!!!!! (Jason or Stephen, please post up some pix/dyno sheet) |
Congrats. It's good to hear you have it back and are enjoying it.
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I hate to be that guy but I would be very disappointed with those results from a 440CI motor with a premium set of heads. I've seen multiple 416ci motors with those heads make 550+ with high 240's to low 250's duration comp cams. Not sure what that silly "chaos" cam is but those numbers aren't that impressive especially from a 440 TFS headed car.
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Originally Posted by Blu
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I hate to be that guy but I would be very disappointed with those results from a 440CI motor with a premium set of heads. I've seen multiple 416ci motors with those heads make 550+ with high 240's to low 250's duration comp cams. Not sure what that silly "chaos" cam is but those numbers aren't that impressive especially from a 440 TFS headed car.
I bet its a great car nonetheless :thumbs: Jason is a great guy :cheers::cheers: |
Dang guys...do we know they tried to make as much rwhp as possible ?
Some people...(like me) ask for a cam for the street because 98% of the time...that is where my driving takes place. I optioned out of a 2nd cam recommened because I didn't want too radical. It cost me some horse power and torque but that is what I ask for. Still running mid 10's with a street cam. Good enough for me. Now if I ran a 10.1, I wouldn't be typing this...I would be changing my cam...lol. :lol::lol: I have a 383 with 480 rwhp...and I hear the same thing. What happened.... "Tony Mammo got over 525 rwhp from his"....?? Pitt |
Originally Posted by pit-man
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Dang guys...do we know they tried to make as much rwhp as possible ?
Some people...(like me) ask for a cam for the street because 98% of the time...that is where my driving takes place. I optioned out of a 2nd cam recommened because I didn't want too radical. It cost me some horse power and torque but that is what I ask for. Still running mid 10's with a street cam. Good enough for me. Now if I ran a 10.1, I wouldn't be typing this...I would be changing my cam...lol. :lol::lol: I have a 383 with 480 rwhp...and I hear the same thing. What happened.... "Tony Mammo got over 525 rwhp from his"....?? Pitt I wasnt trying to be negative. It is a good build, but the point I was trying to make is that hte Ti's flow pretty good so I wouldnt change them for the added power, only change them if your wanting a different sound :thumbs: |
Originally Posted by Corvette-Chris
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Hey Pitt,
I wasnt trying to be negative. It is a good build, but the point I was trying to make is that hte Ti's flow pretty good so I wouldnt change them for the added power, only change them if your wanting a different sound :thumbs: Sorry Fallon, didn't mean to hijack the thread but the TI's are related to your setup. And by the way...that trap speed is good for at least a 10.8 so keep at it Bro !! Work on that sixty foot. Pitt |
What does something like that cost?
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Originally Posted by pit-man
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yeah..I agree Chris....but sometimes I wonder about them. One person will say they dyno'd 15-20 better hp without them..then when mine was tested it made 1 hp less with open headers. Are the dyno's actually that accurate ? Heck..I don't know. I just leave mine on now...hope it isn't killing my quarter mile any.
Sorry Fallon, didn't mean to hijack the thread but the TI's are related to your setup. And by the way...that trap speed is good for at least a 10.8 so keep at it Bro !! Work on that sixty foot. Pitt I agree though, his trap speed tells the truth :D |
Originally Posted by Corvette-Chris
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Hey Pitt,
I wasnt trying to be negative. It is a good build, but the point I was trying to make is that hte Ti's flow pretty good so I wouldnt change them for the added power, only change them if your wanting a different sound :thumbs: OK the thread below shows no exhaust vs. Ti http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...r-600rwhp.html |
Originally Posted by MPM IV
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Congrats. It's good to hear you have it back and are enjoying it.
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Originally Posted by fallen
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Are you sure. I thought they did on big cube motors. Let me do some checking, but I think they do.
OK the thread below shows no exhaust vs. Ti http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...r-600rwhp.html Pitt |
The numbers I gave are w/out cats. Thereafter, we bolted up high flow cats for street use since I do not want to deal with the smell. (So arguably my street nos. are lower).
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Originally Posted by fallen
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The numbers I gave are w/out cats. Thereafter, we bolted up high flow cats for street use since I do not want to deal with the smell. (So arguably my street nos. are lower).
well...you have the proof on yours..no doubt. Nice numbers & setup ! Pitt |
Sorry bro but I have to agree with Blu. I would be seriously upset with those numbers. You spent the money on the best parts and have a combo that should go 600/550rw. Now if the cam is in the 230 range then I wouldn't be that upset. The 1 3/4" LG's and the stock Ti are the biggest culprits. Just as a comparison, my 416 with the same heads, but 1 7/8" kooks through the full cat back made 573/530rw with a 247/254 cam. The tq us what seems way off to me. Does the motor have under 10:1 compression? What intake are you running?
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Originally Posted by Corvette-Chris
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I somewhat agree....I would think it would produce more power, but those street headers are holding some power back. I seriously doubt that the Ti exhaust is costing you 30rwhp. The Ti flows very well so I would look for the power loss somewhere else.
I bet its a great car nonetheless :thumbs: Jason is a great guy :cheers::cheers: OK numbers but not stellar based on the heads and CI. |
Wow!:eek:
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Originally Posted by PRAY
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Sorry bro but I have to agree with Blu. I would be seriously upset with those numbers. You spent the money on the best parts and have a combo that should go 600/550rw. Now if the cam is in the 230 range then I wouldn't be that upset. The 1 3/4" LG's and the stock Ti are the biggest culprits. Just as a comparison, my 416 with the same heads, but 1 7/8" kooks through the full cat back made 573/530rw with a 247/254 cam. The tq us what seems way off to me. Does the motor have under 10:1 compression? What intake are you running?
And I agree, if it is all it can be... then yes the numbers might be low. Pitt |
Compression is 11.8:1 SCR. I have no idea about DCR.
I don't really know the cam specs, but it is much bigger than 230. The intake manifold is the fast 92 through a 90 mm tb. I am using a vararam intake. |
Originally Posted by fallen
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Compression is 11.8:1 SCR. I have no idea about DCR.
I don't really know the cam specs, but it is much bigger than 230. The intake manifold is the fast 92 through a 90 mm tb. I am using a vararam intake. I wish I had your rwhp now, while good air is here ! Pitt |
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