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AMooreesq 05-23-2010 11:45 AM

Problems with the horn on my 03 Z06
 
My horn does not work at the steering wheel, or from my remote. It is my understanding that the problem is probably not in the steering wheel if I am also having a problem with the remote. The fuse is good. When I hit the emergency button on the remote, I hear a clicking from the fusebox under the hood. I tried to pull the micro relay but it doesn't want to move and I do not want to force it.
1. Do you think it is the micro-relay?
2. How do I pull the micro-relay?

Thanks

ISeeRed 05-23-2010 07:23 PM

Based on what you're saying it seems that the relay is functional and the horns don't work. I would use a circuit tester by grounding one end and stabbing the horn wire at the horn and have a helper push the horn button. If it lights....... it's the horns. If it doesn't light, the relay could be energizing but not outputting power to the horns. (meaning bad relay). Hope that helps. If you hear the clicking, you can feel good that the horn button and column wiring is ok.

bighank 05-23-2010 08:08 PM

It's tight but will come out by pulling and wiggling
 

Originally Posted by AMooreesq (Post 1574160517)
My horn does not work at the steering wheel, or from my remote. It is my understanding that the problem is probably not in the steering wheel if I am also having a problem with the remote. The fuse is good. When I hit the emergency button on the remote, I hear a clicking from the fusebox under the hood. I tried to pull the micro relay but it doesn't want to move and I do not want to force it.
1. Do you think it is the micro-relay?
2. How do I pull the micro-relay?

Thanks

The horn relay is identicatal to several other ones in the fusebox under the hood. I had horn trouble too and was pulling the same number fuse in the box under the passenger compartment. Make sure you are checking the right fuse. As I remember it is near the horn relay in the fuse box. I would also get under the car, like put it up on ramps and check out the horns by supplying a wire with 12V directly to the horns.
One of my horns was bad and took out the fuse. If depressing the horn area on the steering wheel causes the relay to click it is not the membrane and since your remote won't blow the horn I would suspect fuse, relay or bad connection to either hot or ground near the horns.
BIGHANK

ldonnel 05-26-2010 05:17 PM

horn problems
 

Originally Posted by bighank (Post 1574164559)
The horn relay is identicatal to several other ones in the fusebox under the hood. I had horn trouble too and was pulling the same number fuse in the box under the passenger compartment. Make sure you are checking the right fuse. As I remember it is near the horn relay in the fuse box. I would also get under the car, like put it up on ramps and check out the horns by supplying a wire with 12V directly to the horns.
One of my horns was bad and took out the fuse. If depressing the horn area on the steering wheel causes the relay to click it is not the membrane and since your remote won't blow the horn I would suspect fuse, relay or bad connection to either hot or ground near the horns.
BIGHANK

I also had a horn problem with my 2000 vert. After reading the other suggestions in the forum, I listened to the relay in the underhood fuse panel, and it would click when the wheel button was depressed. I gambled and paid the 16 bucks for a new relay, and voila! my horn malfunctions were fixed. Maybe you will get lucky too.

lucky131969 05-26-2010 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by ISeeRed (Post 1574164086)
Based on what you're saying it seems that the relay is functional and the horns don't work. I would use a circuit tester by grounding one end and stabbing the horn wire at the horn and have a helper push the horn button. If it lights....... it's the horns.

This is really old school advice. It's never good practice to purposely pierce the insulation of a wire, especially when the connector right there to test. Additionally, just because the test probe illuminates, does not mean you have the correct voltage. Even if the tester does illuminate, and the voltage happens to be good, it does not mean the horns are bad, as it may simply be a ground. This is why it's best to use a meter to evaluate 12 volts from the relay at pin B, and resistance to ground at pin A.

Always remove the connector whenever possible, to evaluate voltage/ground, and check for condition, corrosion, etc.

AMooreesq 05-27-2010 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by ldonnel (Post 1574195542)
I also had a horn problem with my 2000 vert. After reading the other suggestions in the forum, I listened to the relay in the underhood fuse panel, and it would click when the wheel button was depressed. I gambled and paid the 16 bucks for a new relay, and voila! my horn malfunctions were fixed. Maybe you will get lucky too.

Sounds like a stupid question, but when I pull on the relay it does not budge. Am I missing something?

lucky131969 05-27-2010 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by AMooreesq (Post 1574205887)
Am I missing something?

Other than physical strength....no:rofl:. If they have never been out, they are pretty tight. Try to gently rock one end up(about it's length) to break the contact force on the relay.

AMooreesq 05-30-2010 01:57 PM

Thanks for everyone's help
 
Even thought the relay clicked, it turns out it was bad. All is well for only 16 dollars!

Thanks Again,

papageorge2 09-20-2011 11:05 AM

Ok, I've seen all the posts but none help me. What I have is a horn problem not working when I push on the steering wheel. The horns do work. They go off with the alarm activation. Is the alarm horn circuit and the steering wheel horn circuit 2 different circuits? Is there a different relay and fuse for each?

cdkcorvette7 09-20-2011 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by papageorge2 (Post 1578749430)
Ok, I've seen all the posts but none help me. What I have is a horn problem not working when I push on the steering wheel. The horns do work. They go off with the alarm activation. Is the alarm horn circuit and the steering wheel horn circuit 2 different circuits? Is there a different relay and fuse for each?

I'm thinking you have a bad horn switch/membrane. If that turns out to be your issue ecklers sells them as a separate piece. The dealer will only sell it to you as part of the entire SIR assembly. It's not a bad job but you DO have to remove the airbag, so if you don't feel confident you know what you're doing let a shop handle it.

Here's the schematic to help you troubleshoot... BTW, in the future you should start your own thread if you have an issue.

http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/a...ornCircuit.jpg

:thumbs:

James2000 04-14-2018 07:05 PM

My horn fix
 
my horn wasn't working and my relay was clicking like it was working. After hours of taking the horn out testing it and replacing the plug. I was just about to give up till I decided to swap the AC clutch relay with the horn relay and the horn worked. Bought a new relay the next morning and all is good! Even when I hit panic mode the relay would click, who knew a relay could make noise and still be bad?


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