PLS Help! '87 cutting off! ???
Last week my 87: which has been sitting for over 6 yrs got down to the reserve fuel in the gas tank; at which point it promptly died on the highway and would not restart. I HAD TO HAVE IT TOWED to my home. Once there I filled it with super - gas and it seemed to be OK.
The next day while going to work (after driving for about 20 - 30 mins) it died again. Now I added dry gas and fuel injector cleaned as well. While driving it died again. I had the fuel pump and 2 filters changed -but the still does the same thing after driving for about 30 mins. It will die, crank - strong - but not start and run. I have to let it sit for about 2 hours at least, before it will start again. Any idea?!!! |
Sounds like it is something in the distributor or firing, when the car gets warm it shuts down. I've heard of the coil doing this. Just my .02c
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It sounds like the ignition control module or the coil. These are both heat sensitive and what you are discribing is exactly the way most go bad...WW
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When it shuts off is it sudden like tou switched it off or does it sputter as it shuts down? Do you see the SES ( Check Engine) light indicating fault codes have been set?
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Originally Posted by TheKid!!
(Post 1576064182)
Last week my 87: which has been sitting for over 6 yrs got down to the reserve fuel in the gas tank; at which point it promptly died on the highway and would not restart. I HAD TO HAVE IT TOWED to my home. Once there I filled it with super - gas and it seemed to be OK.
The next day while going to work (after driving for about 20 - 30 mins) it died again. Now I added dry gas and fuel injector cleaned as well. While driving it died again. I had the fuel pump and 2 filters changed -but the still does the same thing after driving for about 30 mins. It will die, crank - strong - but not start and run. I have to let it sit for about 2 hours at least, before it will start again. Any idea?!!! I replaced the relay... run for awhile then die. Testing suggested a bad fuel pump.. replaced that.... Same thing car would run for awhile then die as if someone had turned it off. Crank no start. Good spark, zero fuel pressure. It turned out to be a crimped wire at the fuel pump connection at the fuel tank.... check your wiring that new pigtail is about 50 bucks at your parts store.. thats my 2 cents.... c4 cowboy. |
maybe your cagameter needs adjusting. I've heard that a full blinker fluid reservoir fixes it as well
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bad cagameter
but i would try another coil and ignition module each time to see which one's failing |
Originally Posted by coupeguy2001
(Post 1576072177)
maybe your cagameter needs adjusting. I've heard that a full blinker fluid reservoir fixes it as well
.....but seriously, I would check spark. Sounds like ignition module with out being there to run tests. |
Sudden. No SES as I recall... Thanks...
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Have you checked fuel pressure? Even with a new filter and pump, if the car sat for that time and you got it down to the reserve level, it's possible that the pump picked up debris from the bottom of the tank and is blocking the line somewhere.
Pull any codes stored in the ECM. If the FP is not getting sufficient voltage or if the FP relay is bad, a Code 54 will be set. The SES light may come on initially when low voltage is seen, but the light will go off once voltage returns to normal. |
Originally Posted by TheKid!!
(Post 1576064182)
Last week my 87: which has been sitting for over 6 yrs got down to the reserve fuel in the gas tank; at which point it promptly died on the highway and would not restart. I HAD TO HAVE IT TOWED to my home. Once there I filled it with super - gas and it seemed to be OK.
The next day while going to work (after driving for about 20 - 30 mins) it died again. Now I added dry gas and fuel injector cleaned as well. While driving it died again. I had the fuel pump and 2 filters changed -but the still does the same thing after driving for about 30 mins. It will die, crank - strong - but not start and run. I have to let it sit for about 2 hours at least, before it will start again. Any idea?!!! If you have changed the pump, it could be a bad pump or a bad power source. IDK. When you changed the pump, I would ASSUME that you changed the sock? Did you? If so, hook up a noid light to the fuel pump harness so you can see what it is doing at the time. Could also be your relay to the FP. Not sure Also when it is dead, check if you have spark. My module would work but especially when we went thru a car wash, it would die out. Again, that wasn't the whole thing and I did have a little leak in the wires. Changed wires and no improvement at the car wash. Changed module and life was good again. |
Sudden shut off generally points to ignition. My first guess would be the module. Would be nice to see if any codes are set.
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Originally Posted by Muffin
(Post 1576077119)
Sudden shut off generally points to ignition. My first guess would be the module. Would be nice to see if any codes are set.
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Originally Posted by aklim
(Post 1576075401)
I have a small cap and a divorced coil.
FIRST TEST for ANY efi drive prob is FUEL PRESSURE...but if PO wants to 'shoot first,ask later', try a 'known good' ign module in the distrib. |
Okay Im an NG too!
Originally Posted by coupeguy2001
(Post 1576072177)
maybe your cagameter needs adjusting. I've heard that a full blinker fluid reservoir fixes it as well
or rotating my oil but im unclear... please clarify.... lol! c4cowboy |
Just a thought
I've taken my ignition control module to O'Reillys auto parts they tested it for me for free just a thought to rule that out for you I'd call and ask first if you try it hope this helps you.
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Originally Posted by corvetteharley
(Post 1576097889)
I've taken my ignition control module to O'Reillys auto parts they tested it for me for free just a thought to rule that out for you I'd call and ask first if you try it hope this helps you.
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It was the computer. The cable needed to be reseated. I replaced the fuel pump and had everything checked... It came down to loose cable. I had the computer replaced as well. I took out the passenger seat and got under the DASHBOARD. Why is the computer under the DASHBOARD? I think I will ty-rap the cables to the computer box. what do you guys think?
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Originally Posted by TheKid!!
(Post 1576685895)
It was the computer. The cable needed to be reseated. I replaced the fuel pump and had everything checked... It came down to loose cable. I had the computer replaced as well. I took out the passenger seat and got under the DASHBOARD. Why is the computer under the DASHBOARD? I think I will ty-rap the cables to the computer box. what do you guys think?
Yes stuff is hidden all over the C4......just wasn't enough room to put everything out in the open. 20lbs of crap in a 10lb box kinda thing sums it up. :cheers: |
Good job
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