|
Body Lift Help
I been informed that to properly fix my body mounts on my 69 coupe i'll need to do a body lift. I have some questions for starters about the easiest method that I'll be able to do it by myself as I have nobody to help.
I was planning on an engine hoist and body straps... But i only have a 9ft ceiling(still possible?) I've been compiling links to other members restorations/body lifts for ideas and information and so far so good. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/565523...orvette/page-8 http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-t...checklist.html http://vettemod.org/index5.html# http://corvetterepair.com/services/tech-tips/ http://coopersgarage.piczo.com/1973c...linkvar=000044 http://www.corvette-restoration.com/...dy_removal.htm My interior is already gutted so that's done. I'd like to leave the engine and gas tank in place... |
Here is a picture of my garage so you know what i'm dealing with.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...e/IMG_0795.jpg http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...e/IMG_0807.jpg |
My ceiling is only 96"s tall so you have a little more room than me. Its not impossible to do on your own. Really helps to have another set of eyes at least. The gantry crane and body cradle below would be the most reliable and easiest to use by yourself. Still need someone just to keep an eye on you when lift heavy stuff.
I used my cherry picker and made up my own cradle out of wood as the lifting straps I had were way to long. Mind you the wooden cradle was only designed to keep the strap apart and away from the body so they are only dealing with compression loads. It is not lifting the body itself. Cherry picker body lift http://i51.tinypic.com/23twdj.jpg I have since picked up a steel body cradle from accessiblesystems.com and my body strap kit that can be used lift the body all on its own and I use a gantry crane from harbor freight. The gantry crane is too tall for my garage without poking holes into the ceiling (which i will do anyway) but the picture below is from my budys garage where we used it to lift the body. You can use the cradle on the cherry picker as well. body cradle http://i51.tinypic.com/kbt7hc.jpg http://i51.tinypic.com/fcrzwy.jpg http://i53.tinypic.com/2e6akgx.jpg |
Well I started prep for the body lift today.
So far what's done: -Interior is gutted(seats, carpet, console, steering wheel...) -hood is off -front bumper and grille removed -radiator removed -master cylinder lines disconnected I'm going to need some help with descriptions of parts as I don't know what they look like and they're telling me to take them off... maybe they're not for my year car and that's why i'm confused. If anyone has a photo of any of these that would be awesome. -Clutch Rod Wire Clip(supposed to be under the master cylinder...?) -Back-up Light Plug(supposed to be behind the distributor...but so are a billion other plugs) -Accelerator Rod and Ground Strap(is the rod necessary for a body lift? or did they throw that in for a engine lift as well?) |
Hi pv,
I'll take the back-up light connection. Find the switch on the transmission and follow it under/through the tunnel and up the engine side of the firewall. You'll come to a plug-connection that allows the switch to stay on the transmission when you lift the body. Regards, Alan Now the clutch rod clip. The clutch rod comes through the firewall under the master cylinder. It connects to the z-bar that goes across the frame and then down to the clutch arm. The clip holds the rod that comes through the firewall to the z-bar. |
Originally Posted by mysixtynine
(Post 1576584610)
My ceiling is only 96"s tall so you have a little more room than me. Its not impossible to do on your own. Really helps to have another set of eyes at least. The gantry crane and body cradle below would be the most reliable and easiest to use by yourself. Still need someone just to keep an eye on you when lift heavy stuff.
I used my cherry picker and made up my own cradle out of wood as the lifting straps I had were way to long. Mind you the wooden cradle was only designed to keep the strap apart and away from the body so they are only dealing with compression loads. It is not lifting the body itself. Cherry picker body lift http://i51.tinypic.com/23twdj.jpg I have since picked up a steel body cradle from accessiblesystems.com and my body strap kit that can be used lift the body all on its own and I use a gantry crane from harbor freight. The gantry crane is too tall for my garage without poking holes into the ceiling (which i will do anyway) but the picture below is from my budys garage where we used it to lift the body. You can use the cradle on the cherry picker as well. body cradle http://i51.tinypic.com/kbt7hc.jpg http://i51.tinypic.com/fcrzwy.jpg http://i53.tinypic.com/2e6akgx.jpg It's great when people come up and find a way to do something that most would say it won't work. Looks close in there but looks good!!!:cool: |
disconnect anything connected to body, get 4 buddies to provide support to front end(2) and other 2 to help you (1 to work lifting mechanism) and you and other to watch for things that might snag....go slow and watch front end as it is heavy and only glassed to main body and can and has broke on some:ack: good luck, again TAKE YOUR TIME:cheers:
|
Originally Posted by LT1driver
(Post 1576590338)
disconnect anything connected to body, get 4 buddies to provide support to front end(2) and other 2 to help you (1 to work lifting mechanism) and you and other to watch for things that might snag....go slow and watch front end as it is heavy and only glassed to main body and can and has broke on some:ack: good luck, again TAKE YOUR TIME:cheers:
This will be by myself most likely or possibly one other.:smash: |
looks like bubba has been messing with my rear bumper.
This is what they call the valance right? well he glassed and painted over it so i'm having a hard time figuring out a way to get the thing off without damaging it too much.(even though it doesn't need to come off I don't think. http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...y/IMG_0829.jpg He also broke the fiberglass when he was messing with the bumper as both sides looked like this without me needing to loosen them... http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...y/IMG_0834.jpg But i'm gaining progress on the car... http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...y/IMG_0833.jpg I'm going to be gone all week for work but would still love any information that can help. type of engine hoist? Do i need the load leveler or will that take up too much of my height i'm limited with? should I buy the premade straps for the corvette lift and knot them to size or just use my tie down straps? I can put a hole in the ceiling like the photos above but don't have the metal cradle to use and it's a rental house so i'd have to fix what i destroy... |
I used a Harbor Freight engine hoist in my garage with 8 foot ceilings. A leveler may help as the front strap is a little tricky. I didn't use one, but I was a little worried that the straps might slip. I used the same checklist everyone seems to use (meant for C2's). I obviously found some stuff that wasn't listed, but it was minimal. Just lift a little at a time and keep checking for things you may have missed.
You can do it by yourself, but I had 1 other buddy help. http://lh6.ggpht.com/_M4nZN96IuhA/TM...0/IMG_2481.JPG http://lh6.ggpht.com/_M4nZN96IuhA/TM...640/Higher.JPG Good luck! |
I'm trying to figure out what type of engine hoist to buy or look for used.
Seems like i'll need probably a 2ton even though a 1 ton would most likely do it. But should I stay away from the folding types? Is there a boom length or height I should be looking for? Obviously if it doesn't lift high enough or extend far enough it's not going to work... I'm just trying to figure out what those numbers are and what I should buy... |
Hi PV,
You asked three questions yesterday and I answered two of them; did you see my post? What you're seeing on the valance is what was often done when a car was changed from under-car exhaust to side-exhaust. If you look on the back side of the valance you should be able to see the 'patch' and then you'll know where to cut. The broken fiberglass at the side bolt of rear bumper is pretty common (though yours is a unusually big hole) because until late 71 and into 72 there was no bracket for the bolt on the back side so the washer that was used was too big and broke the fiberglass around the hole if over tightened. A pretty easy repair. Regards, Alan |
Originally Posted by Alan 71
(Post 1576592579)
Hi PV,
You asked three questions yesterday and I answered two of them; did you see my post? What you're seeing on the valance is what was often done when a car was changed from under-car exhaust to side-exhaust. If you look on the back side of the valance you should be able to see the 'patch' and then you'll know where to cut. The broken fiberglass at the side bolt of rear bumper is pretty common (though yours is a unusually big hole) because until late 71 and into 72 there was no bracket for the bolt on the back side so the washer that was used was too big and broke the fiberglass around the hole if over tightened. A pretty easy repair. Regards, Alan I think I was confused about the cluck rod clip as a clip to me sounds like a wire clip. But if they're talking about the rod where it intersects to the Z bar I know that and can easily take that off. i'm sourcing a hoist on craigslist this morning so i haven't been our to look for the tail light plug. the hoist on Craigslist look like wan2run's. Most likely a harbor freight model. 2 ton folding type for $100 that isn't too far from me so i think that's what I'll get for now.. and the vanance is globed on the back with excess glass so there isn't much i can see with that...i'll just have to go slow and heat gun it while i peal it away |
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/tls/2175414530.html
he said he leveler was a mistake and it's $100 for the hoist only... think it'll do the trick? |
I placed a beam; two 2x6's nailed together, across the rafters in my garage. One end su8pported by the end wall, the other end I supported with a 4x4. Then I used a come-a-long to do the lifting. I also used a second come-a-long to lift the nose. I was able to do the lifting by myself from the attic area. The lift straps I bought from Vette Products of Michigan.
The one thing you need to check is the condition of the rocker channels. If I had looked closer I would not have used the hooks on them but would have wrapped the straps together under the body. My rockers were very rusty and they did bend a little from the lifting. Fortunately they held and the body did not drop. |
Originally Posted by redwingvette
(Post 1576593746)
I placed a beam; two 2x6's nailed together, across the rafters in my garage. One end su8pported by the end wall, the other end I supported with a 4x4. Then I used a come-a-long to do the lifting. I also used a second come-a-long to lift the nose. I was able to do the lifting by myself from the attic area. The lift straps I bought from Vette Products of Michigan.
The one thing you need to check is the condition of the rocker channels. If I had looked closer I would not have used the hooks on them but would have wrapped the straps together under the body. My rockers were very rusty and they did bend a little from the lifting. Fortunately they held and the body did not drop. I ended up getting the engine hoist off craigslist from a nice guy locally so hopefully it'll work out. http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...y/IMG_0840.jpg |
The lift you have will work fine.;)
I did a complete body off resto on my '69 by myself with 8' ceilings in my garage. If you take your time and have a plan you will find that there is not much you can't do yourself. Good Luck and I will be looking forward to your progress.:cheers: |
Originally Posted by wan2run
(Post 1576592091)
I used a Harbor Freight engine hoist in my garage with 8 foot ceilings. A leveler may help as the front strap is a little tricky. I didn't use one, but I was a little worried that the straps might slip. I used the same checklist everyone seems to use (meant for C2's). I obviously found some stuff that wasn't listed, but it was minimal. Just lift a little at a time and keep checking for things you may have missed.
You can do it by yourself, but I had 1 other buddy help. |
Originally Posted by hunt4cleanair
(Post 1576599396)
Those wheel dolly's are a great idea...really contributes to a "one-man" job strategy. Like you, I've got that 8 (98") foot ceiling
|
Originally Posted by PUNISHER VETTE
(Post 1576591517)
....just moved here so I don't know 4 buddies and 2 others to help...
This will be by myself most likely or possibly one other.:smash: |
| All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:52 AM. |
© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands