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mikeidentity 09-07-2011 09:03 PM

PCV smog fail?
 
Hey guys. Did a search but couldnt find what i was looking for.

I went in to get a smog check and the guy told me i failed the visual check because of missing pcv hose on driver side. There is one pcv hose on the passenger side but the driver side seems to have a cap over it.

I just bought this car and im pretty sure the previous owner did not touch the mentioned items. Anyone here ever have same issues when smogging?

lucky131969 09-07-2011 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by mikeidentity (Post 1578637764)
Hey guys. Did a search but couldnt find what i was looking for.

I went in to get a smog check and the guy told me i failed the visual check because of missing pcv hose on driver side. There is one pcv hose on the passenger side but the driver side seems to have a cap over it.

I just bought this car and im pretty sure the previous owner did not touch the mentioned items. Anyone here ever have same issues when smogging?

No info in your sig....no idea year/model you have.....

Take pics

Bill Curlee 09-07-2011 09:48 PM

I agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1:iagree: 100% There are at least TWO different C5 PCV designs for the C5. Need specific info and some pictures of the drivers side of the top of the engine.

Unless the Inspection Dude KNOWS Corvette's,,,,,,,,, hes probably misinformed and its most likely NOT the PCV thats missing or capped. If its capped,,, it could be a late model C5 and that part of the PCV should be capped. :thumbs:

Please provide the requested info and fill out your profile. Who knows,,, You and i could live in the same community. :D

BC

BC

mikeidentity 09-07-2011 11:16 PM


Originally Posted by Bill Curlee (Post 1578638292)
I agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1:iagree: 100% There are at least TWO different C5 PCV designs for the C5. Need specific info and some pictures of the drivers side of the top of the engine.

Unless the Inspection Dude KNOWS Corvette's,,,,,,,,, hes probably misinformed and its most likely NOT the PCV thats missing or capped. If its capped,,, it could be a late model C5 and that part of the PCV should be capped. :thumbs:

Please provide the requested info and fill out your profile. Who knows,,, You and i could live in the same community. :D

BC

BC


Originally Posted by lucky131969 (Post 1578637858)
No info in your sig....no idea year/model you have.....

Take pics

Thanks guys. sorry should've posted some info.

2004 coupe mn6 got about 31k miles on it, just picked it up last week. I live in southern california.

here are some pictures I took after work... I was pretty frustrated with the whole situation and I can't really blame the smog guy since he probably has never worked on a vette. anyway someone can share a picture of what there pcv looks like? or any suggestions on how to prove to this guy that this is how it came out of the factory?

or should I just go smog it somewhere else.

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/...load-1copy.jpg

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/...wnloadcopy.jpg

Dave68 09-08-2011 12:23 AM

Check out:

http://www.conceptualpolymer.com/PCV...eplacement.htm

Lothar34 09-08-2011 12:42 AM


Originally Posted by mikeidentity (Post 1578639024)
Thanks guys. sorry should've posted some info.

2004 coupe mn6 got about 31k miles on it, just picked it up last week. I live in southern california.

here are some pictures I took after work... I was pretty frustrated with the whole situation and I can't really blame the smog guy since he probably has never worked on a vette. anyway someone can share a picture of what there pcv looks like? or any suggestions on how to prove to this guy that this is how it came out of the factory?

or should I just go smog it somewhere else.

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/...load-1copy.jpg

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/...wnloadcopy.jpg

Your setup is correct and does not appear to have been modified. Is there not a PCV hose diagram under the hood somewhere?

Take it somewhere else.

Bill Curlee 09-08-2011 10:43 AM

Your SMOG INSPECTOR is a BOZO! He is totally INCORRECT in his diagnosis!! The late model C5, "DOES NOT" use that PCV port. It has a new design PCV system that is improved and the ONLY PCV connection is in the PASSENGERS SIDE and uses a small U shaped hose with the PCV valve inside it that connects to the nipple on the valve valley and then routes directly to the intake manifold.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...7/DSCF0029.jpg

You can see the PCV nipple in this pic:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...7/DSCF0063.jpg

I hope you go back and run this up his BUTT!

mikeidentity 09-08-2011 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by Bill Curlee (Post 1578641398)
Your SMOG INSPECTOR is a BOZO! He is totally INCORRECT in his diagnosis!! The late model C5, "DOES NOT" use that PCV port. It has a new design PCV system that is improved and the ONLY PCV connection is in the PASSENGERS SIDE and uses a small U shaped hose with the PCV valve inside it that connects to the nipple on the valve valley and then routes directly to the intake manifold.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...7/DSCF0029.jpg

You can see the PCV nipple in this pic:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...7/DSCF0063.jpg

I hope you go back and run this up his BUTT!

thanks I appreciate it.

I plan on showing this as proof... the whole process seems backwards to me. Shouldn't they be the ones proving me why it's an illegal setup?!

Bill Curlee 09-08-2011 12:52 PM

When I get home tonight and have access to my ESI, I will try to send you the PCV hose routeing for an early C5 and one for a late model C5.

If that isnt proof,,, nothing is!:yesnod::thumbs:

BC

Quicksilver Vert 01 09-08-2011 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by mikeidentity (Post 1578642280)
Shouldn't they be the ones proving me why it's an illegal setup?!

You are absolutely right about that! It's a shame that some idiot doesn't know what he's talking about, but still has the authority to cause needless grief to people.

Here in CT, emissions test stations don't even look under your hood.
It's a simple pass or fail, based on the data obtained from the OBDII diagnostic connector.

ALL states that test for emissions should follow a standardized procedure.

bumble-z 09-08-2011 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by Quicksilver Vert 01 (Post 1578642687)
You are absolutely right about that! It's a shame that some idiot doesn't know what he's talking about, but still has the authority to cause needless grief to people.

Here in CT, emissions test stations don't even look under your hood.
It's a simple pass or fail, based on the data obtained from the OBDII diagnostic connector.

ALL states that test for emissions should follow a standardized procedure.

Well said. :iagree:

Bill Curlee 09-08-2011 05:34 PM

I sent you some stuff by PM. Check it out. You may need to use OPEN WITH file like paint or bit map to open the files. Let me know if you can open them

BC

Z06supercharged 09-08-2011 06:36 PM

Its sad but many smog inspection techs don't know crap. There are so many different models out there they cant possibly know what even half of them are suppose to look like smog device hookups and hoses. But in all fairness I love smog tech idiots because you can get cars by them that are way illegal with some things and they dont even know. We have a list around here which techs are idiots for modded cars.

mountainbiker2 09-08-2011 07:28 PM

My setup is exactly like the OP. I have a 99. Go to anther shop.

Steve A.

Lothar34 09-08-2011 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by Lothar34 (Post 1578639428)
Is there not a PCV hose diagram under the hood somewhere?

Do you have this sticker over by your washer fluid reservoir?:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6087/...e5fc6ee2_b.jpg

mikeidentity 09-09-2011 01:20 AM

My sticker looks like this.

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/...y/P1040143.jpg

Lothar34 09-09-2011 01:41 AM

Yeah mine's different because it's a '98.

Anyway go back and shove that guy's nose into the sticker.


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