A&A blower install complete, something does'nt sound right....
i just completed my blower install, however the headunit itself does not sound right to me? is this the way they are supposed to sound? it almost sounds like a "grinding".
all fluids have been checked. in the vid it may sound like the belt is slipping but it is not. it has sounded like this the second i started it up for the first time. details. a&a v3 T trim 3.8 pulley dallas performance flip drive 6 rib setup alky meth kit aem AFR aem boost/fuel pressure gauges the car IS NOT tuned. i have the stock injectors still installed. the car is getting tuned this friday where i will swap the stockers out for the 60lb'ers i have. first vid. cold start. the car has been sitting for about 3 days without being started http://s1040.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_1311-1.mp4 second vid, engine warm. http://s1040.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_1313-1.mp4 |
That 2nd video doesn't sound good at all. The head unit is filled with oil right?
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Most of the video sounds normal. I did hear some "different" grinding noises than what I've heard in the past at the end of the first video; 1:06 to 1:08 and 1:45 to 1:50. It is really hard to tell on a recording. I would try to find someone local with the same blower to compare it to. I would be concerned by the noise that I heard though. It might not be the SC it could be a pulley or bearing.
Hopefully some additional people will give there opinion. Does the oil in the SC look good? |
This is a brand new unit with 0 miles. Oil is great.
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I agree with the above posts about checking the oil. Doesn't sound too bad to me. When I worked for Vortech I got to hear all kinds of blowers. Some V2's and V3's are louder than others, some V1's are loud and some are REALLY loud. I've even heard a quiet YSi. :crazy2:
StealthFRC, I sent the videos to my buddy that works in the Vortech service department, just to be safe. I'll let you know what he says. |
If the belt is to tight is sounds nasty, like it is literally grinding the bearing apart inside!
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Originally Posted by Frank@AandACorvette
(Post 1579061001)
I agree with the above posts about checking the oil. Doesn't sound too bad to me. When I worked for Vortech I got to hear all kinds of blowers. Some V2's and V3's are louder than others, some V1's are loud and some are REALLY loud. I've even heard a quiet YSi. :crazy2:
StealthFRC, I sent the videos to my buddy that works in the Vortech service department, just to be safe. I'll let you know what he says. and i dont think the belt is to tight. a buddy of mine came over that has a charged z06 and thought the belt was to loose. honestly i think it is perfect. he is used to no flipdrive etc inwhich i have so... i wish there were more charged vettes around me then maybe we could get this figured out! i put my ear right up to the blower and it almost sounds like its coming from the compressor side. i took the filter off and looked at it and it looked perfect. |
Just heard back from Vortech. They agree it sounds OK, it's just a little louder than most V2/V3's. If it keeps making that noise under load, or gets louder under load then something is wrong with it.
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if i rev the car to say around 1200-1500rpm the noise stays constant from what i can gather. anything over those rpm's its hard to distinguish anything really... the engine bay gets pretty loud. im just just curious how i can hear this noise under load?
im going to take your guys word and run the car. if anything worsens i will certainly give you a call. i appreciate all you help. |
I'm no expert but it is a lot louder than the other 4 or 5 I've heard.
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screw that. It would drive me nuts.
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Originally Posted by SargeZ06
(Post 1579090802)
screw that. It would drive me nuts.
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Originally Posted by 4DRUSH
(Post 1579091071)
:iagree: Sent it back, I wouldn't settle for that sh1t.
Got a warranty USE IT! |
T-Trims are VERY loud....that sounds normal
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I agree with the others. That sounds like most Vortechs to me. Hell, my old S-trim was louder back in 1997. :lol:
Originally Posted by BobbyG123
(Post 1579091739)
Noise is vibration, something is wrong with that unit
Originally Posted by Frank@AandACorvette
(Post 1579069094)
Just heard back from Vortech. They agree it sounds OK, it's just a little louder than most V2/V3's.
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Could some be confusing a T trim with and S trim. The T trim I heard was much louder than the S trim.
Darion |
I read this link and it just came to mind. I see ya hadn't had a tune done and figured I would post it up. They make a point about idle being a bit low and SC gear lash. Just a thought.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/c5-for...-sc-sound.html Hope ya get squared away, Darion |
I had the same question with my P1SC. I was nervous until I started it up for my buddy who runs the same blower. I quote, "They all sound like that. Was the magnetic plug clean when you changed the oil? Yep? Then don't worry about it..."
From the above, looks like all the Vortech guys agree on their blowers. Good luck with your tune! |
Originally Posted by Frank@AandACorvette
(Post 1579061001)
I agree with the above posts about checking the oil. Doesn't sound too bad to me. When I worked for Vortech I got to hear all kinds of blowers. Some V2's and V3's are louder than others, some V1's are loud and some are REALLY loud. I've even heard a quiet YSi. :crazy2:
StealthFRC, I sent the videos to my buddy that works in the Vortech service department, just to be safe. I'll let you know what he says. Thanks,Matt |
Mine sounds like that too. Once I get above 1000 RPM it turns into a whine. I have had no issues for 8,000 miles and almost a year.
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yea im not to happy with the noise and how loud it is. can some of you with t trims post up videos of yours so i can compare? ive been gone the past 14 days on storm clean up (im a linesman.) alot of power outages out here.
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Is there a warranty from vortech? If they can give you a 6 month or 1 year warranty on it I would feel better and avoid all the work/labor. I would file it officially with them on record that brand new it was making noise and get an agreement with them on paper signed and dated with details from someone in charge that will be there longterm. I dont hear anything like that from my V2 just a consistent air/whistle. I am not an expert at all and you have many experts on this thread but locigcally Id say if the sound is changing at idle from time to time and its coming from the SC thats not a tight unit.
Best of luck and sorry to hear, I know its happened to all of us with enough modding of cars, there are so many variables and things that can go wrong when gathering aftermarket parts and putting together. |
Originally Posted by StealthFRC
(Post 1579201517)
yea im not to happy with the noise and how loud it is. can some of you with t trims post up videos of yours so i can compare? ive been gone the past 14 days on storm clean up (im a linesman.) alot of power outages out here.
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Originally Posted by TPSMak
(Post 1579202069)
If you don't like a noisy blower you shouldn't have gotten a T Trim... T trims are alot noisier than the Si series.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJjyk...e_gdata_player
Vortech V3 t trim 383 stock ls6 heads A&A blower cam. |
Originally Posted by MVP'S ZO6
(Post 1579202232)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJjyk...e_gdata_player
Vortech V3 t trim 383 stock ls6 heads A&A blower cam. wish mine was that quite.... now i really am wondering if something internal isn't right with it. any others with t trims to compare? and im not complaining about the "blower" noise.... im complaining about the fact it sounds like its shredding itself apart. as long as a&a and vortech agree it is ok then i will run it.... i just want to cover myself IF something did go wrong with it... i dont want to get the "why did you run it if it doesn't sound right" deal if you guys know what i mean... but i am happy with a&a's service so i dont think i have anything to worry about |
Originally Posted by StealthFRC
(Post 1579206442)
wish mine was that quite.... now i really am wondering if something internal isn't right with it. any others with t trims to compare?
and im not complaining about the "blower" noise.... im complaining about the fact it sounds like its shredding itself apart. as long as a&a and vortech agree it is ok then i will run it.... i just want to cover myself IF something did go wrong with it... i dont want to get the "why did you run it if it doesn't sound right" deal if you guys know what i mean... but i am happy with a&a's service so i dont think i have anything to worry about Man if I were in your shoes it would go back. Period. |
Originally Posted by StealthFRC
(Post 1579206442)
and im not complaining about the "blower" noise.... im complaining about the fact it sounds like its shredding itself apart. |
For piece of mind you should just send the unit into Vortech and have them look at it. That way you can move on and enjoy the car without stressing.
Just my 2 cents.... |
Originally Posted by Mike04
(Post 1579207086)
For piece of mind you should just send the unit into Vortech and have them look at it. That way you can move on and enjoy the car without stressing.
Just my 2 cents.... |
Originally Posted by MVP'S ZO6
(Post 1579207459)
:iagree:
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Originally Posted by StealthFRC
(Post 1579206442)
wish mine was that quite.... now i really am wondering if something internal isn't right with it. any others with t trims to compare?
and im not complaining about the "blower" noise.... im complaining about the fact it sounds like its shredding itself apart. as long as a&a and vortech agree it is ok then i will run it.... i just want to cover myself IF something did go wrong with it... i dont want to get the "why did you run it if it doesn't sound right" deal if you guys know what i mean... but i am happy with a&a's service so i dont think i have anything to worry about |
Originally Posted by Frank@AandACorvette
(Post 1579233381)
If you're really worried about it pull it off and send it to us. We'll drop it off at Vortech and have them check it out. Let me know.
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I'd be sending that thing back for sure... No way that sounds normal. Almost sounds like a bad bearing in it... If its a brand new kit, that head unit should be swapped under warranty and let Vortech worry about that racket...
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Originally Posted by Frank@AandACorvette
(Post 1579233381)
If you're really worried about it pull it off and send it to us. We'll drop it off at Vortech and have them check it out. Let me know.
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Here are pictures of my T-Trim that ate up a one of the bearing bearing races and sounded just like your video. It got bad really fast and my impeller began to scrape the inlet surface. This was a 6 month old head unit with very low miles on it. I sent it to A&A who took it over to Vortech and fixed it under warranty. No reason given other than a defective race that disintegrated. Hard to see in the top pic but the impeller front case bearing race is completely gone and all the bearings were sitting to one side all touching each other.
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...Picture271.jpg http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...Picture261.jpg |
Originally Posted by Z06supercharged
(Post 1579234609)
Here are pictures of my T-Trim that ate up a one of the bearing bearing races and sounded just like your video. It got bad really fast and my impeller began to scrape the inlet surface. This was a 6 month old head unit with very low miles on it. I sent it to A&A who took it over to Vortech and fixed it under warranty. No reason given other than a defective race that disintegrated. Hard to see in the top pic but the impeller side race is completely gone.
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...Picture271.jpg http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...Picture261.jpg |
Originally Posted by IDM
(Post 1579234656)
Would these parts then go through the engine?
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Originally Posted by Frank@AandACorvette
(Post 1579233381)
If you're really worried about it pull it off and send it to us. We'll drop it off at Vortech and have them check it out. Let me know.
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Sounds good. Give me a call before you box it up and ship it out.
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Originally Posted by Frank@AandACorvette
(Post 1579251088)
Sounds good. Give me a call before you box it up and ship it out.
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After 5 months my blower is making noise
Originally Posted by Josh@AandASuperchargers
(Post 1579251088)
Sounds good. Give me a call before you box it up and ship it out.
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Originally Posted by gbruner
(Post 1582381579)
Mike at TPS says it's normal, it's not a winning noise it's a churping noise at 2000rpm is that normal after 5 months and 3000 miles?
The noise that is coming from your setup is NOT the supercharger.. it's the BOV... the noise has nothing to do with the supercharger. |
hmmmmmm
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Turned out to be the Blow Off Valve was defective. After arguing with the installer that the sound was not how they all sound like for a week he replaced the bov and now it's good to go.
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niccccee:crazy:
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Originally Posted by StealthFRC
(Post 1579060082)
i just completed my blower install, however the headunit itself does not sound right to me? is this the way they are supposed to sound? it almost sounds like a "grinding".
all fluids have been checked. in the vid it may sound like the belt is slipping but it is not. it has sounded like this the second i started it up for the first time. details. a&a v3 T trim 3.8 pulley dallas performance flip drive 6 rib setup alky meth kit aem AFR aem boost/fuel pressure gauges the car IS NOT tuned. i have the stock injectors still installed. the car is getting tuned this friday where i will swap the stockers out for the 60lb'ers i have. first vid. cold start. the car has been sitting for about 3 days without being started http://s1040.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_1311-1.mp4 second vid, engine warm. http://s1040.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_1313-1.mp4 I have the same blower and it sounds about the same to yours. Yours might be a little louder but its hard to tell from the video. I asked quite a few people about it and I was told that this model blower will sound like that at a low rpm (idle) and will whine out with RPM. Mine turns to a whistle/whine above 1000 RPM. This was explained to me as "Gear Lash" I have over 10K on my blower and have not had an issue. I will try to post a video of mine. Sounds like you sent it back for POM. Let me know what you find out Dave |
I actually never sent it back. It's been working flawlessly for over a year now
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