Lower than expected horsepower with supercharger
Hello,
I have 2001 auto convertible vette. Its was stock with a magnaflow catback. I installed an A&A Vortech with a 3.6" pulley. It made a little better than 370 horsepower on a Mustang dyno. The tuner seemed disappointed that he couldnt get more out of it without detonation. He said that it wouldnt take timing like most. What are your thoughts? I had 93 octane fuel. He suspected that the catalytic converters could be in poor condition. How would you know if the cats were bad? The kit made around 10 lbs of boost. Is my power unusually low? All thoughts on my horsepower and ideas on the cause welcome...... |
Originally Posted by keck739
(Post 1580539356)
How would you know if the cats were bad? The other alternative is to gut the cats and re-dyno. |
Your horsepower numbers are low, my car made 534hp/476tq at the wheels with a 3.6 pulley at an altitude of 5,500ft. Did you replace your stock fuel injectors?
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Your numbers are not just really low they are crazy low even for a mustang dyno.
How does the car feel? |
Its an A&A...:hide:
:rofl::rofl: and yes, the power is low, even for an A&A!!!!! :leaving: |
Originally Posted by 2003VETT
(Post 1580539574)
Its an A&A...:hide:
:rofl::rofl: and yes, the power is low, even for an A&A!!!!! :leaving: |
Get him to email you the tune and post it here. Do you remember how much total timing was in there? Something else is definitely wrong. Even if you are only running 10* of timing 10 lbs is a significant amount of boost.
Time for some headers. |
Find a new tuner ! :leaving:
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I replaced the injectors with 60the lbs and i have a bap. The car feels fast. I left black marks at 30the mph or so in an auto. The tuner seemed to expect 400 hp. We got 381 corrected.....
What should my car make on a mustang dyno? |
Originally Posted by keck739
(Post 1580540184)
I replaced the injectors with 60the lbs and i have a bap. The car feels fast. I left black marks at 30the mph or so in an auto. The tuner seemed to expect 400 hp. We got 381 corrected.....
What should my car make on a mustang dyno? Maybe just for the heck of it, take it to another dyno. |
Originally Posted by keck739
(Post 1580540184)
I replaced the injectors with 60the lbs and i have a bap. The car feels fast. I left black marks at 30the mph or so in an auto. The tuner seemed to expect 400 hp. We got 381 corrected.....
What should my car make on a mustang dyno? Post your tune, up here if you can and go run on another dyno. My old vette was sitting at about 420 it was a 100K mile engine with some early 1997 LS1 heads that were hand ported and a cam. No supercharger or anything like that. It would pull like a freight train but It wouldn't catch rubber from anything over 15MPH. However your car should be able to lay rubber at highway speeds. |
Low numbers.
Try a different tuner and dyno. |
Thanks for all of the replies. I trust the tuner and i dont care about getting big numbers. I just want to get the power that i should. Another dyno run would be great for comparison but i dont have quick access to one. What have others made on a mustang dyno?
Im leaning hard toward xs power headers and high flow cats. I was just curious if anyone had other thoughts.... Car is much faster. When up in boost it will start spinning even before it shifts. Can spin at higher speeds like around 30- 50mph. I dont know exact speed but thats a good guess.... What would a dynojet normally show for 380hp on a mustang? I had heard 450rabbet or so?? |
Plugged cats ?? That will kill power for sure....
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Originally Posted by mmartinez
(Post 1580539527)
Your horsepower numbers are low, my car made 534hp/476tq at the wheels with a 3.6 pulley at an altitude of 5,500ft. Did you replace your stock fuel injectors?
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just got my 02 back today from having Magnuson TVS2300 installed along with Kooks headers and catted X pipe. It is making 477 RWHP and 535 Ft# of Tq. at 10# of boost on a Mustang Dyno. Would be more except had to take timming out at higher rpm due to maxing out the fuel pump.
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Originally Posted by BUBBAS 01Z06
(Post 1580541168)
Plugged cats ?? That will kill power for sure....
Car has 65k miles btw and no codes. Is it still likely to be cats? |
Originally Posted by Milan
(Post 1580539829)
Get him to email you the tune and post it here. Do you remember how much total timing was in there? Something else is definitely wrong. Even if you are only running 10* of timing 10 lbs is a significant amount of boost.
:iagree: Time for some headers.
Originally Posted by Sponge Vette
(Post 1580540046)
Find a new tuner ! :leaving:
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Originally Posted by robert miller
(Post 1580541742)
:iagree: For sure something is wrong and if that tuner cant find it you need a new one. Even on a mustang dyno per say they run about 10% to 12% lower than is still way to low..... NEW TUNER....Robert
Tuner felt like it was the cats. Sorry for crazy wording on some messages..... big fingers on little smart phone. |
low dyno numbers.
Your car with a properly installed a@a kit, with long tube headers and cats would make 450 on a mustang dyno since your car is automatic. I have an automatic 2000 which was dynoed on a mustang dyno and it dynoed 460 without my cam and my exhaust modification. I had hi flow cats and during the dyno session it was laying down some and all of a sudden it shot the guts out of the cats through the exhaust pipes!! I have the debris to prove it. gutted cats, new cam, rev kit, dyno tune 525 rwhp on mustang dyno.. went to dynojet dyno...570rwhp. automatics dont dyno well because 3rd gear never really locks up. sticks dyno better because they place it in third and go! dont worry, you will run right with a stick and if you race, they always screw the shifts up anyway. You win!:rock::rock:
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